To David Gerstein: I like your new Mickey/Ferioli stories. It's great to
encounter really professional writing for a change. I notice that you seem
to have "de-aged" Mickey ("We'll see if we can put a scare into Mrs.
O'Mally's mean old tomcat!") I think the reason our mouse plummetted in
popularity during the 50s and 60s was that he "grew up" and started wearing
that Bing Crosby outfit.
By the way, I've written a pretty interesting fifteen page Morty and Ferdie
story. Think there would be any market for it?
Great comics, at least of this genre, need to be written from a child's
viewpoint to be effective, I think. Certainly St. Carl understood this.
Huey, Dewey, and Louie were NOT a "greek chorus". The ducklings were not
only central in importance in almost all of his Donald/Scrooge stories; the
stories were actually written from THEIR viewpoint.
I must admit that I find all of the nitpicking about duck family trees and
inconsistancies in various duck stories to be VERY irritating. Continuity is
one of the things that ruined comics...it placed unnecessary constraints on
the writing. I mean, who CARES if Duckburg is in California, Minnesota, or
Calisota????? Why can't it be one place in one story and another place in
another???? WE'RE TALKING FANTASY HERE, GUYS!!!!! GET A LIFE!!!!
Yes, I know that Barks OCCASIONALLY used continuity, but only when it served
his purposes. He certainly never realized that years later middle-aged
readers would be dissecting his every word under a microscope!
While I'm busy offending people here, let me add another of my pet peeves:
ranting and raving about paper quality. If I were to start my own comics
company today, I would focus on producing interesting characters and stories
as CHEAPLY AS POSSIBLE, even if it meant using recycled newsprint with ten
pages of ads. Comics should be something a ten-year old kid can afford with
less than a week's allowance. Let the collectors have their high-quality
glossy reprints; let the kids have some fun for less than a buck.
That's about all I've got to get off my chest for now. Hope I've stirred up
a hornet's nest.
Robert D.
Author
Topic: 199604
(244 messages)
Gaiist
This and that
Message 31 -
1996-04-06 at 09:16:44
Heffalump
Fethry +
Message 32 -
1996-04-06 at 15:44:19
TRYG:
Congratulations on your halfway to the centeniel.
I visited Mpls last October, I visited the campus and had coffee in
Dinkeytown. What do you do at the UMN?
I had forgotten those photoes in WDC so I missed out on Drexels this time.
It looks like a nice Art Decoish hotel.
All:
Fethry is a favorite of mine. Can anybody tell me about his origin, first
apperance and so forth.
Another thing I wonder about: Does anyone know the print run for CBL and the
CBL in color album, and are there any sources on Dell comics print run? The
only thing I've heard is that WDC hit three million copies in the fifties.
Gaute Kongsnes
Congratulations on your halfway to the centeniel.
I visited Mpls last October, I visited the campus and had coffee in
Dinkeytown. What do you do at the UMN?
I had forgotten those photoes in WDC so I missed out on Drexels this time.
It looks like a nice Art Decoish hotel.
All:
Fethry is a favorite of mine. Can anybody tell me about his origin, first
apperance and so forth.
Another thing I wonder about: Does anyone know the print run for CBL and the
CBL in color album, and are there any sources on Dell comics print run? The
only thing I've heard is that WDC hit three million copies in the fifties.
Gaute Kongsnes
Henri Sivonen
Disney comics Digest V96 #72
Message 33 -
1996-04-06 at 16:09:52
Jyrki & Dwight,
> > Isn't Rockerduck more frequent in the Italian stories than with
> > Egmont?
I can't recall any other D-coded story with Rockerduck, except Lo$ #4.
Rockerduck is frequent in Italian stories. (not as frequent as he used
to be.)
-- ___
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Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris \__
> > Isn't Rockerduck more frequent in the Italian stories than with
> > Egmont?
I can't recall any other D-coded story with Rockerduck, except Lo$ #4.
Rockerduck is frequent in Italian stories. (not as frequent as he used
to be.)
-- ___
Henri Sivonen / \
(Email removed) WWW (renewed): | h_|
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris \__
Deckerd
Fethry +
Message 34 -
1996-04-06 at 18:34:32
On Apr 6, 2:44pm, Heffalump wrote:
> Another thing I wonder about: Does anyone know the print run for CBL
and the
> CBL in color album, and are there any sources on Dell comics print
run? The
> only thing I've heard is that WDC hit three million copies in the
fifties.
>
I recently got into an argument with somebody about comic-book
readership numbers in the '50s. One thing that came out of it
is that Bruce Hamilton got hold of the Dell account books from
decades past and found out that WDC&S actually broke five million
copies an issue at one point. This was the absolute maximum for
any US comic book ever, however, and due in large part to the
Disney name and Dell's marketing (I'm old enough to remember
when it seemed like every grade school kid had a subscription
to WDC&S). Circulations of other titles went down from there.
I'm not sure about other Disney titles, but I recall hearing
that Looney Tunes (Dell's Warner Brothers character flagship
title) was around three million. Superman, Captain Marvel, and
Archie were in the million and a half range. Judging by my
occasional experience with the collector market, '50s issues
of WDC&S are actually more plentiful than early to mid-'60s
issues, perhaps because the printruns had declined so
precipitously. The last few volumes of Gladstone's Barks
10-pager reprints had quite a few stories I had never seen
because I had just never seen those mid-'60s issues of WDC&S
offered for sale in my casual perusing of dealers' tables,
while in the past I've had no trouble picking up extra copies
of '50s issues with favorite stories I wanted for gifts.
I'm currently reading an Italian Donald & Fethry story
(reprinted in Danish in the second hardcover Christmas comic book),
one with Donald & Fethry working as journalists for Uncle
Scrooge's newspaper. The art is good, the ducks are cute,
but Fethry still seems pretty useless to me. Does anybody
like this character? Why isn't he back in limbo with Moby Duck?
Snort!
--Dwight Decker
> Another thing I wonder about: Does anyone know the print run for CBL
and the
> CBL in color album, and are there any sources on Dell comics print
run? The
> only thing I've heard is that WDC hit three million copies in the
fifties.
>
I recently got into an argument with somebody about comic-book
readership numbers in the '50s. One thing that came out of it
is that Bruce Hamilton got hold of the Dell account books from
decades past and found out that WDC&S actually broke five million
copies an issue at one point. This was the absolute maximum for
any US comic book ever, however, and due in large part to the
Disney name and Dell's marketing (I'm old enough to remember
when it seemed like every grade school kid had a subscription
to WDC&S). Circulations of other titles went down from there.
I'm not sure about other Disney titles, but I recall hearing
that Looney Tunes (Dell's Warner Brothers character flagship
title) was around three million. Superman, Captain Marvel, and
Archie were in the million and a half range. Judging by my
occasional experience with the collector market, '50s issues
of WDC&S are actually more plentiful than early to mid-'60s
issues, perhaps because the printruns had declined so
precipitously. The last few volumes of Gladstone's Barks
10-pager reprints had quite a few stories I had never seen
because I had just never seen those mid-'60s issues of WDC&S
offered for sale in my casual perusing of dealers' tables,
while in the past I've had no trouble picking up extra copies
of '50s issues with favorite stories I wanted for gifts.
I'm currently reading an Italian Donald & Fethry story
(reprinted in Danish in the second hardcover Christmas comic book),
one with Donald & Fethry working as journalists for Uncle
Scrooge's newspaper. The art is good, the ducks are cute,
but Fethry still seems pretty useless to me. Does anybody
like this character? Why isn't he back in limbo with Moby Duck?
Snort!
--Dwight Decker
David A Gerstein
Andold locale
Message 35 -
1996-04-06 at 23:12:25
HENRI (and everyone):
A discussion with Gary at Gladstone netted me the valuable
information that "Walstaen" is NOT a real castle anywhere. He made up
the name (and a darned good one it is). In the present story I have
to specify where the action's really taking place, so I'll just plop
fictitious Walstaen Castle down in some real locale.
And yes, I'll be consistent with the
previously-published-in-US Andold story in every way, too (names of
characters, etc. will be consistent -- and why not?). Just wait and
see what I'll come up with to make the story new, though... it should
be good! ;-)
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
A discussion with Gary at Gladstone netted me the valuable
information that "Walstaen" is NOT a real castle anywhere. He made up
the name (and a darned good one it is). In the present story I have
to specify where the action's really taking place, so I'll just plop
fictitious Walstaen Castle down in some real locale.
And yes, I'll be consistent with the
previously-published-in-US Andold story in every way, too (names of
characters, etc. will be consistent -- and why not?). Just wait and
see what I'll come up with to make the story new, though... it should
be good! ;-)
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Harry Fluks
Rosa news
Message 36 -
1996-04-07 at 11:07:22
DON R:
The South-African Boers are as Dutch as the Argentinians are
Spanish. I mean, colonisation was 3 centuries ago, and after that
people from different countries joined the colonists. For instance, the
name "Botha" originally comes from a German family.
(And I also think Glomgold's ancestors were from some other country
originally, because the name doesn't sound Dutch.. 8-)
DUTCH ROSA NEWS:
Don's Life of Scrooge will be reprinted in albums in Holland. The Dutch
series "Oom Dagobert", which already had 52 albums, will have 5 albums
containing "Het levensverhaal van Oom Dagobert" ("The life story of U$").
Album 53 will be published in July, and albums 54 through 57 will follow.
In an ad for shop-owners, they say they want "to revive the U$ album
series". They also announce that a family tree will be sealed with
album 53. The cover in the ad shows an enlarged detail of the Gladstone
cover for Lo$ 1, plus the oval and the text "1877-1880". (But usually,
they change the cover on the real album).
I wonder if the albums will just contain reprints from Donald Duck Extra,
or newly translated and lettered reprints from the Gladstone or German
albums. I also wonder if the family tree will be Don's original one...
The "Oom Dagobert" album series contained Barks stories only from
album 1 to album 30. After that, various Egmont and Dutch stories were
printed (and an occasional Italian and French story). The cover had a
layout change since issue 31, too. Albums 1 to 30 had the number in
a circle, albums from 31 on in a square. The Lo$ album has the number
in a circle again (to indicate quality contents?).
They appear to expect a lot from this Lo$ album series, and rightfully so.
I hope sales will go up that much that they decide to make more Rosa
albums.
--Harry.
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The South-African Boers are as Dutch as the Argentinians are
Spanish. I mean, colonisation was 3 centuries ago, and after that
people from different countries joined the colonists. For instance, the
name "Botha" originally comes from a German family.
(And I also think Glomgold's ancestors were from some other country
originally, because the name doesn't sound Dutch.. 8-)
DUTCH ROSA NEWS:
Don's Life of Scrooge will be reprinted in albums in Holland. The Dutch
series "Oom Dagobert", which already had 52 albums, will have 5 albums
containing "Het levensverhaal van Oom Dagobert" ("The life story of U$").
Album 53 will be published in July, and albums 54 through 57 will follow.
In an ad for shop-owners, they say they want "to revive the U$ album
series". They also announce that a family tree will be sealed with
album 53. The cover in the ad shows an enlarged detail of the Gladstone
cover for Lo$ 1, plus the oval and the text "1877-1880". (But usually,
they change the cover on the real album).
I wonder if the albums will just contain reprints from Donald Duck Extra,
or newly translated and lettered reprints from the Gladstone or German
albums. I also wonder if the family tree will be Don's original one...
The "Oom Dagobert" album series contained Barks stories only from
album 1 to album 30. After that, various Egmont and Dutch stories were
printed (and an occasional Italian and French story). The cover had a
layout change since issue 31, too. Albums 1 to 30 had the number in
a circle, albums from 31 on in a square. The Lo$ album has the number
in a circle again (to indicate quality contents?).
They appear to expect a lot from this Lo$ album series, and rightfully so.
I hope sales will go up that much that they decide to make more Rosa
albums.
--Harry.
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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #73
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Arthur De Wolf
Rosa News
Message 37 -
1996-04-07 at 13:57:31
Hi!
HARRY:
What? Are they going to reprint Don's Life of Scrooge in albums
in Holland? That's GREAT news! This means they're finally starting to
recognize and appreciate Don's stories. Maybe they'll reprint MORE of
Don's stories in the "Oom Dagobert"-album series. Now that they
stopped reprinting Barks' stories in this series, they might switch to
Rosa! Stories like "Last Sled to Dawson", "Of Ducks and Dimes and
Destinies" or "Son of the Sun" are PERFECT stories for this series.
I think they'll first wait to see how people react to the reprinting
of Don's Life of Scrooge, and then consider reprinting other stories!
Wouldn't that be great?
Bye!
Arthur
HARRY:
What? Are they going to reprint Don's Life of Scrooge in albums
in Holland? That's GREAT news! This means they're finally starting to
recognize and appreciate Don's stories. Maybe they'll reprint MORE of
Don's stories in the "Oom Dagobert"-album series. Now that they
stopped reprinting Barks' stories in this series, they might switch to
Rosa! Stories like "Last Sled to Dawson", "Of Ducks and Dimes and
Destinies" or "Son of the Sun" are PERFECT stories for this series.
I think they'll first wait to see how people react to the reprinting
of Don's Life of Scrooge, and then consider reprinting other stories!
Wouldn't that be great?
Bye!
Arthur
RMorris306
Disney comics Digest V96 #73
Message 38 -
1996-04-07 at 17:11:18
Hi again!
It's been a week or so since I posted here, though David Gerstein at
least knows I'm alive, from the "Ozzy Digest" we're both in. He mentioned
there that in the first Bucky Bug story, "Woggle Bug" was one of the other
names his parents considered for him when he was born.
On the circulation of comics, I'm inclined to believe that WDC&S did
indeed have the highest circulation of any comic book in the '50's,
especially since it undercuts the claim of that "Death of Superman" travesty,
and the even worse X-MEN #1 (I'm talking about the issue by Jim Lee, not the
one by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby) to battle it out for the best-selling comic
book of all time.
Does anyone remember a "Disney Encyclopedia" that came out in the
'60's? It was a children's encyclopedia, apparently produced originally in
Italy and then translated into English, with 15 volumes or so, each on a
different subject, and each narrated by a Disney character. Usually they'd be
tied in with a story involving that character, sometimes using interesting
juxtapositions. The one about "Great Leaders of History" had Mickey Mouse
going into the past, working for Uncle Scrooge and using a time machine
invented by Gyro Gearloose (so I guess Egmont and recent Gladstone are right:
he DOES live in Duckburg!), and one about "Captials of the World" had Grandma
Duck and Goofy taking a world tour. On that tour they met several other
characters, including Pete and...yes..Rockerduck and Fethry Duck. Indeed, it
was in that Encyclopedia that I first heard about Rockerduck and Fethry.
The Index volume also had an overview of the Disney characters and
history, partially narrated by Donald Duck. (Sadly but understandably, nobody
but Disney, certainly not Carl Barks, was mentioned.) Donald talked about
most of the other relatives, friends and enemies in his life, including
Daisy, Huey, Dewey and Louie, Grandma, Scrooge, and Gyro Gearloose. But he
also mentioned Rockerduck, as a rival of Scrooge who spent his money rather
than hoarding it (so evidently having more in common with the Maharajah of
Howdyustan than with Scrooge or Glomgold). No, Flintheart Glomgold never
seemed to be mentioned anywhere in the Encyclopedia, once again indicating
its Italian origins.
Take care,
Rich Morrissey
It's been a week or so since I posted here, though David Gerstein at
least knows I'm alive, from the "Ozzy Digest" we're both in. He mentioned
there that in the first Bucky Bug story, "Woggle Bug" was one of the other
names his parents considered for him when he was born.
On the circulation of comics, I'm inclined to believe that WDC&S did
indeed have the highest circulation of any comic book in the '50's,
especially since it undercuts the claim of that "Death of Superman" travesty,
and the even worse X-MEN #1 (I'm talking about the issue by Jim Lee, not the
one by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby) to battle it out for the best-selling comic
book of all time.
Does anyone remember a "Disney Encyclopedia" that came out in the
'60's? It was a children's encyclopedia, apparently produced originally in
Italy and then translated into English, with 15 volumes or so, each on a
different subject, and each narrated by a Disney character. Usually they'd be
tied in with a story involving that character, sometimes using interesting
juxtapositions. The one about "Great Leaders of History" had Mickey Mouse
going into the past, working for Uncle Scrooge and using a time machine
invented by Gyro Gearloose (so I guess Egmont and recent Gladstone are right:
he DOES live in Duckburg!), and one about "Captials of the World" had Grandma
Duck and Goofy taking a world tour. On that tour they met several other
characters, including Pete and...yes..Rockerduck and Fethry Duck. Indeed, it
was in that Encyclopedia that I first heard about Rockerduck and Fethry.
The Index volume also had an overview of the Disney characters and
history, partially narrated by Donald Duck. (Sadly but understandably, nobody
but Disney, certainly not Carl Barks, was mentioned.) Donald talked about
most of the other relatives, friends and enemies in his life, including
Daisy, Huey, Dewey and Louie, Grandma, Scrooge, and Gyro Gearloose. But he
also mentioned Rockerduck, as a rival of Scrooge who spent his money rather
than hoarding it (so evidently having more in common with the Maharajah of
Howdyustan than with Scrooge or Glomgold). No, Flintheart Glomgold never
seemed to be mentioned anywhere in the Encyclopedia, once again indicating
its Italian origins.
Take care,
Rich Morrissey
Mike Pohjola
Disney comics Digest V96 #72
Message 39 -
1996-04-07 at 20:13:05
ALL:
Could you give me a list of people who both draw and write Disney
comics stories? I know Carl Bakrs, Don Rosa, Marco Rota and William Van Horn,
but that's about it. How many are there?
Somebody once told me what Egmont pays to writers and artists. I
think it was $30 a written page and 50 a drawn page or something like that.
Now I'd like to ask what the Italian publishers pay, the one whose stories
have six panels a page and rather poor quality if you ask me. Do they get
even nearly as much?
DAVID:
I'm no expert in knowing what something sounds like in English, but
to my ear Yussuf Aiper could sound like "Yes, a viper". Could this be it?
> How did you think D93497 differed from the standard Mickey gag story?
This wasn't to me, but I decided to reply it, too. First of all,
I liked the story very much and Horace was very refreshing to see after
all these years of Mickey and Goofy. How did the story differ from the
standard? Well, it was very funny (which the basic 'gag' stories almost
never are) and IT DIDN'T HAVE MICKEY DEALING WITH CRIMINALS! Almost all
the Mickey stories (except for some Zoom Transport stories) we see nowadays
have Mickey as a cop or a detective or sumpin. This is one of two good
short Mickey stories I've seen during the last year. (the first one was
a one about Mickey as a taxi driver) And who is Butch?-o
HARRY:
I didn't know what Boers are when I first read Lo$#6, but I figured
they were some people who had immigrated to South Africa. I was right. And
later my history teacher told me they were people who had immigrated there
from Holland. So there. But I must believe you if you say there were people
from other countries with them. If there was more than 10% of them, then I'd
say Flintheart probably isn't all Dutch. He might still be part Dutch (and
probably is). Perhaps his Dutch grandmother married an Englishman called
Glomgold and their son married a Dutchman giving Flintheart 75% of Dutch
blood, but still an English name? And of course his original name could've
been Flintherz van der Glommegulde (or whatever, I don't speak Dutch) and
he simply changed his name after becoming a big man (like that Ubbe guy
in Walt Disney studios in the 1920's).
HENRI:
I checked the Aku Ankka website, and I think it was very well done
as a homepage, but could be improved. I mailed them, that they could have
links to other homepages (I gave them the addresses for Scrooge McDuck and
Disney Comics pages). And secondly in their Quiz, they asked the color
of Tupu's cap. (To Americans and other aliens: Tupu is one of Donald's
nephews, but it's impossible to say whether he's Huey, Dewey or Louie) And
no, the web-page address hasn't been published in Aku Ankka yet. Maybe they
want to try it out a bit more and improve it. Do you know if the Helsinki
Media Company has a web page?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Could you give me a list of people who both draw and write Disney
comics stories? I know Carl Bakrs, Don Rosa, Marco Rota and William Van Horn,
but that's about it. How many are there?
Somebody once told me what Egmont pays to writers and artists. I
think it was $30 a written page and 50 a drawn page or something like that.
Now I'd like to ask what the Italian publishers pay, the one whose stories
have six panels a page and rather poor quality if you ask me. Do they get
even nearly as much?
DAVID:
I'm no expert in knowing what something sounds like in English, but
to my ear Yussuf Aiper could sound like "Yes, a viper". Could this be it?
> How did you think D93497 differed from the standard Mickey gag story?
This wasn't to me, but I decided to reply it, too. First of all,
I liked the story very much and Horace was very refreshing to see after
all these years of Mickey and Goofy. How did the story differ from the
standard? Well, it was very funny (which the basic 'gag' stories almost
never are) and IT DIDN'T HAVE MICKEY DEALING WITH CRIMINALS! Almost all
the Mickey stories (except for some Zoom Transport stories) we see nowadays
have Mickey as a cop or a detective or sumpin. This is one of two good
short Mickey stories I've seen during the last year. (the first one was
a one about Mickey as a taxi driver) And who is Butch?-o
HARRY:
I didn't know what Boers are when I first read Lo$#6, but I figured
they were some people who had immigrated to South Africa. I was right. And
later my history teacher told me they were people who had immigrated there
from Holland. So there. But I must believe you if you say there were people
from other countries with them. If there was more than 10% of them, then I'd
say Flintheart probably isn't all Dutch. He might still be part Dutch (and
probably is). Perhaps his Dutch grandmother married an Englishman called
Glomgold and their son married a Dutchman giving Flintheart 75% of Dutch
blood, but still an English name? And of course his original name could've
been Flintherz van der Glommegulde (or whatever, I don't speak Dutch) and
he simply changed his name after becoming a big man (like that Ubbe guy
in Walt Disney studios in the 1920's).
HENRI:
I checked the Aku Ankka website, and I think it was very well done
as a homepage, but could be improved. I mailed them, that they could have
links to other homepages (I gave them the addresses for Scrooge McDuck and
Disney Comics pages). And secondly in their Quiz, they asked the color
of Tupu's cap. (To Americans and other aliens: Tupu is one of Donald's
nephews, but it's impossible to say whether he's Huey, Dewey or Louie) And
no, the web-page address hasn't been published in Aku Ankka yet. Maybe they
want to try it out a bit more and improve it. Do you know if the Helsinki
Media Company has a web page?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Edge
Disney comics Digest V96 #73
Message 40 -
1996-04-07 at 22:16:58
Dwight Decker wrote:
>I recently got into an argument with somebody about comic-book
>readership numbers in the '50s. One thing that came out of it
>is that Bruce Hamilton got hold of the Dell account books from
>decades past and found out that WDC&S actually broke five million
>copies an issue at one point. This was the absolute maximum for
>any US comic book ever, however, and due in large part to the
>Disney name and Dell's marketing (I'm old enough to remember
>when it seemed like every grade school kid had a subscription
>to WDC&S). Circulations of other titles went down from there.
This is the kind of fascinating information I wish were easily and
publicly available. I have never understood, either, where one
comes up with the names of artists and writers for all the years
of publishing when NONE of this was published in the Disney comics
themselves. Is this information on sales public and easily available
anywhere?
It is I think a pretty strong commentary on the changes in how
we raise (or fail to raise) our children today that the sales of
WDC&S is about 3 orders of magnitude (5,000,000 vs. 5,000) below
where it was in the fifties. Not that anything lasts for ever, but
I have always felt Scrooge and Donald and the Nephews had something
of the eternal qualities of good literature and humanity that still
had something to offer today.
Thanks,
Ron.
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>I recently got into an argument with somebody about comic-book
>readership numbers in the '50s. One thing that came out of it
>is that Bruce Hamilton got hold of the Dell account books from
>decades past and found out that WDC&S actually broke five million
>copies an issue at one point. This was the absolute maximum for
>any US comic book ever, however, and due in large part to the
>Disney name and Dell's marketing (I'm old enough to remember
>when it seemed like every grade school kid had a subscription
>to WDC&S). Circulations of other titles went down from there.
This is the kind of fascinating information I wish were easily and
publicly available. I have never understood, either, where one
comes up with the names of artists and writers for all the years
of publishing when NONE of this was published in the Disney comics
themselves. Is this information on sales public and easily available
anywhere?
It is I think a pretty strong commentary on the changes in how
we raise (or fail to raise) our children today that the sales of
WDC&S is about 3 orders of magnitude (5,000,000 vs. 5,000) below
where it was in the fifties. Not that anything lasts for ever, but
I have always felt Scrooge and Donald and the Nephews had something
of the eternal qualities of good literature and humanity that still
had something to offer today.
Thanks,
Ron.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Ronald D. Edge Manager of Information Systems *
* Indiana University Intercollegiate Athletics *
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Henri Sivonen
Disney comics Digest V96 #73
Message 41 -
1996-04-07 at 22:31:12
Robert D,
>Continuity is one of the things that ruined comics...it placed unnecessary constraints on the writing.
>...
>WE'RE TALKING FANTASY HERE, GUYS!!!!!
Comics are fantasy, but IMHO believable and continuous fantasy is much more
interesting reading.
> While I'm busy offending people here, let me add another of my pet peeves:
> ranting and raving about paper quality.
> ...
I don't think comics look good on too shiny paper. The colors get too bright.
> ...let the kids have some fun for less than a buck.
Collectors would be happy, too :-).
David,
> A discussion with Gary at Gladstone netted me the valuable
> information that "Walstaen" is NOT a real castle anywhere.
Why can't the places be the same as Rota used?
-- ___
Henri Sivonen / \
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Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris \__
>Continuity is one of the things that ruined comics...it placed unnecessary constraints on the writing.
>...
>WE'RE TALKING FANTASY HERE, GUYS!!!!!
Comics are fantasy, but IMHO believable and continuous fantasy is much more
interesting reading.
> While I'm busy offending people here, let me add another of my pet peeves:
> ranting and raving about paper quality.
> ...
I don't think comics look good on too shiny paper. The colors get too bright.
> ...let the kids have some fun for less than a buck.
Collectors would be happy, too :-).
David,
> A discussion with Gary at Gladstone netted me the valuable
> information that "Walstaen" is NOT a real castle anywhere.
Why can't the places be the same as Rota used?
-- ___
Henri Sivonen / \
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Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris \__
David A Gerstein
Mickey, Fethry and Moby Duck
Message 42 -
1996-04-08 at 00:18:36
ROBERT D:
Eh? The Mickey stories you refer ("A Mouse and His Dog",
"Fantasy Island") are written by Byron Erickson! I have written a
load of Mickey stories -- mostly for Egmont with one for Gladstone --
but some have not been drawn yet, and only one ("Digging Up Trouble,"
D93497) has actually been printed so far, and only in Europe.
Gladstone does intend to publish my original stories (both
Ducks and Mickey), although it may be a while yet.
DWIGHT:
I do like Fethry, guardedly, as he appears in a lot of older
S-coded and I-coded stories. When he's just a sort of second Donald
(turning Donald into a constantly-arguing adventuring team), sure --
the story may be a good one (I liked "The Snacking Sleuths"), but it
doesn't validate his existence. But when he's played as an eccentric
character with elements of the mid-1930s Donald and the early-1930s
Dippy -- the kind of character who can really get on Donald's nerves
without, of course, turning Donald into a straight man -- then I think
Fethry can be a very enjoyable character.
People seem either to love Fethry or hate him. I only hated
him in his few 1960s American appearances, in which he was played too
much of a beatnik (with hepcat dialogue that was just used too much).
Moby Duck, on the other hand, was a character who existed so
that sea stories could be done, but had no real integrity or depth
as a personality, and had no special talent for bringing out any type
of reaction in Donald. He ultimately failed, IMHO, because he lacked
character strength and usability.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Eh? The Mickey stories you refer ("A Mouse and His Dog",
"Fantasy Island") are written by Byron Erickson! I have written a
load of Mickey stories -- mostly for Egmont with one for Gladstone --
but some have not been drawn yet, and only one ("Digging Up Trouble,"
D93497) has actually been printed so far, and only in Europe.
Gladstone does intend to publish my original stories (both
Ducks and Mickey), although it may be a while yet.
DWIGHT:
I do like Fethry, guardedly, as he appears in a lot of older
S-coded and I-coded stories. When he's just a sort of second Donald
(turning Donald into a constantly-arguing adventuring team), sure --
the story may be a good one (I liked "The Snacking Sleuths"), but it
doesn't validate his existence. But when he's played as an eccentric
character with elements of the mid-1930s Donald and the early-1930s
Dippy -- the kind of character who can really get on Donald's nerves
without, of course, turning Donald into a straight man -- then I think
Fethry can be a very enjoyable character.
People seem either to love Fethry or hate him. I only hated
him in his few 1960s American appearances, in which he was played too
much of a beatnik (with hepcat dialogue that was just used too much).
Moby Duck, on the other hand, was a character who existed so
that sea stories could be done, but had no real integrity or depth
as a personality, and had no special talent for bringing out any type
of reaction in Donald. He ultimately failed, IMHO, because he lacked
character strength and usability.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Harry Fluks
Answers to Mike P.
Message 43 -
1996-04-08 at 01:19:57
MIKE P.:
> Could you give me a list of people who both draw and write Disney
> comics stories?
I did a "query" on the Database for people who both wrote and drew a
substantial amount of Disney stories. Here's the result.
([Writ-34] means: there are 34 stories or covers in the database, written by
the person. Covers are also counted as Cov-x.)
----
BGy Bob Gregory [Writ-31, Art-89, Ink-1, Cov-2]
BRi Boerge Ring [Writ-20, Art-42]
CB Carl Barks [Plot-2, Writ-798, Art-842, Cov-428]
CBu Carl Von Buettner [Writ-48, Art-69, Ink-9, Cov-87]
DJ Daan Jippes [Writ-33, Art-91, Ink-2, Cov-376]
DR Don Rosa [Writ-66, Art-74, Ink-1, Cov-151]
FG Floyd Gottfredson [Plot-49, Writ-17, Art-855, Ink-49, Cov-2]
FM Freddy Milton [Writ-15, Art-136, Ink-1, Cov-1]
GT Gil Turner [Writ-41, Art-164, Cov-2]
RSc Romano Scarpa [Writ-32, Art-118, Cov-9]
VL Vic Lockman [Writ-45, Art-7, Ink-15]
VRe Volker Reiche [Writ-7, Art-6]
WH William Van Horn [Writ-59, Art-83, Cov-92]
WK Walt Kelly [Writ-10, Art-21, Cov-98]
----
> Flintheart probably isn't all Dutch. He might still be part Dutch (and
> probably is).
You're absolutely right.
> [Maybe] he simply changed his name after becoming a big man (like that
> Ubbe guy in Walt Disney studios in the 1920's).
Hm... why would Flintheart change his name? To make it sound more
English? Could be, when he left the Boer society to join the
English speaking society. I have no idea if South African people change names
like that.
I wonder what his original name might be... Don doesn't mention it in
the Lo$. "Flintheart" doesn't look like any Dutch name.
By the way: the Belgians call Dutch people greedy. Is this "international
knowledge"? If so, Glomgold *must* be over 90% Dutch. 8-)
--Harry.
> Could you give me a list of people who both draw and write Disney
> comics stories?
I did a "query" on the Database for people who both wrote and drew a
substantial amount of Disney stories. Here's the result.
([Writ-34] means: there are 34 stories or covers in the database, written by
the person. Covers are also counted as Cov-x.)
----
BGy Bob Gregory [Writ-31, Art-89, Ink-1, Cov-2]
BRi Boerge Ring [Writ-20, Art-42]
CB Carl Barks [Plot-2, Writ-798, Art-842, Cov-428]
CBu Carl Von Buettner [Writ-48, Art-69, Ink-9, Cov-87]
DJ Daan Jippes [Writ-33, Art-91, Ink-2, Cov-376]
DR Don Rosa [Writ-66, Art-74, Ink-1, Cov-151]
FG Floyd Gottfredson [Plot-49, Writ-17, Art-855, Ink-49, Cov-2]
FM Freddy Milton [Writ-15, Art-136, Ink-1, Cov-1]
GT Gil Turner [Writ-41, Art-164, Cov-2]
RSc Romano Scarpa [Writ-32, Art-118, Cov-9]
VL Vic Lockman [Writ-45, Art-7, Ink-15]
VRe Volker Reiche [Writ-7, Art-6]
WH William Van Horn [Writ-59, Art-83, Cov-92]
WK Walt Kelly [Writ-10, Art-21, Cov-98]
----
> Flintheart probably isn't all Dutch. He might still be part Dutch (and
> probably is).
You're absolutely right.
> [Maybe] he simply changed his name after becoming a big man (like that
> Ubbe guy in Walt Disney studios in the 1920's).
Hm... why would Flintheart change his name? To make it sound more
English? Could be, when he left the Boer society to join the
English speaking society. I have no idea if South African people change names
like that.
I wonder what his original name might be... Don doesn't mention it in
the Lo$. "Flintheart" doesn't look like any Dutch name.
By the way: the Belgians call Dutch people greedy. Is this "international
knowledge"? If so, Glomgold *must* be over 90% Dutch. 8-)
--Harry.
LAFFALOT
What Do I Do With My Collection?
Message 44 -
1996-04-08 at 02:13:51
Greetings,
I hate to be morbid, but I've been putting this question off long enough. I
was recently diagnosed with lung cancer, which is treatable with massive
chemotherapy, but I could still die if the treatment doesn't work. My
question is, what do I do with my comic book collection?
I have quite a few OLD comics dating back to the 20's, as well as lots of
signed art portfolios by Barks, Pini, Wrightson, and others. I have The Fine
Art OF Walt Disney's Donald Duck by Carl Barks, the leather and gold bound
edition of Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge by Carl Barks, the one with the signed
litho. I have lots of old Disney and Archie comics, lots of contemporary
comics, etc. etc.
I have a 3 year old nephew whose college education I'd like to provide for,
but what do people do in their wills to make sure the comics, etc. get to the
right person/place? Is there a museum or foundation that accepts
collections? Any help or insight anyone can give me would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ken Gordon
(Email removed)
I hate to be morbid, but I've been putting this question off long enough. I
was recently diagnosed with lung cancer, which is treatable with massive
chemotherapy, but I could still die if the treatment doesn't work. My
question is, what do I do with my comic book collection?
I have quite a few OLD comics dating back to the 20's, as well as lots of
signed art portfolios by Barks, Pini, Wrightson, and others. I have The Fine
Art OF Walt Disney's Donald Duck by Carl Barks, the leather and gold bound
edition of Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge by Carl Barks, the one with the signed
litho. I have lots of old Disney and Archie comics, lots of contemporary
comics, etc. etc.
I have a 3 year old nephew whose college education I'd like to provide for,
but what do people do in their wills to make sure the comics, etc. get to the
right person/place? Is there a museum or foundation that accepts
collections? Any help or insight anyone can give me would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ken Gordon
(Email removed)
Gaiist
Disney comics Digest V96 #73
Message 45 -
1996-04-08 at 04:26:41
Did I blow it. Of course Byron Erickson wrote the Mickey story in DD&MM5.
Don't know where I came up with David Gerstein, but I realized my mistake
right after I posted my reply. Sorry about that.
Don't know where I came up with David Gerstein, but I realized my mistake
right after I posted my reply. Sorry about that.