BJORN ARE:
As I've said before as to my research, I go to ridiculous lengths to get as
much info as possible on the subject I deal with, I read it all through, but
then I decide for myself WHICH historian's version I want to use so that it
will be most helpful to the plot I have in mind. I know that Stonehenge as
we see it now was NOT built 5000 years ago, yet they know that site was used
for the same purposes (with a different rock configuration or none at all)
for 5000 years. For my purposes, even though I only sent the Ducks back 1400
years, it sounds more dramatic to say the place was built 5000 years ago.
Besides, I'm not being precise what I refer to as being that old since I
don't have the luxury of that much space.
And as to how neat I present Stonehenge as being 1400 years back, accurate
or not, I NEEDED it to look neat for my story. So that's the MAIN reason it
was so well preserved. In fact, one translator (the very diligent Stefan
Dios of Sweden, who loves the historic aspects of these stories, and likes
to FAX me discussions and opinions when he thinks he would like to add or
change something... which pleases me greatly) said that he didn't want to
use the 4500-5000 year age for Stonehenge since he understood that the place
was overgrown in the earlier days. (I forget where he found this fact, but
he changed a few lines in his translation to go along with that idea, I think.)
Prince Valiant? Well, that would be cute, but it couldn't work. Prince
Valiant comes from that movie-TV-comic version of the Days of King Arthur. I
couldn't have had Val pop into my story even in the background dressed or
looking like he did in the Foster strip. He would have had to be a filthy,
fur-clad barbarian like all the rest of natives in my story, and there
wouldn't have been much point in that. I DO puts lots of references to Monty
Python in there, though... at least in my original script.
ERIC:
Oh, yes, I do show the ditch and the mounds, and I show them precisely where
they actually are. I actually traced a photo when I did my aerial views. And
even if I left out a hot dog stand that might be on site in 1996, I don't
care... I was using a National Geographic report from the mid 50s when I
drew the site, since that's my period setting.
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Topic: 199605
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Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #111
Message 196 -
1996-05-26 at 20:39:00
Wilmer Rivers
Current year in Croesus story
Message 197 -
1996-05-26 at 23:13:58
DON ROSA:
You say you had to reject your preferred storyline for "The Once and
Future Duck" because it hinges on King Arthur's saying that the
current year is 1955, and your readers would wonder why it wasn't 1996
instead. But didn't you explicitly make the current year be 1955 in
"The Tresury of Croesus"? Near the end of Part 1, Dewey says of the
bases of the temple columns that "The guidebook says they were uncovered
by treasure hunters in 1905," and Scrooge reveals that it was in fact
his own expeditiion which made that discovery. Then in Part 2, when
Professor Pigayam challenge's Scrooge's right to conduct an archaeolog-
ical study at the site, Scrooge whips out a permit, saying "Sultan Hamid
himself gave me this fifty years ago!" So, if the 1905 expedition took
place 50 years ago, it's now 1955, right? There's no way the readers
can take it to be 1996. Furthermore, Kamil Attaturk (sp.???), the
founder of modern Turkey, booted the Sultan out of the country shortly
after World War I, so "fifty years ago" there **wasn't** a Sultan Hamid
to give Scrooge the permit, if you take the story to happen in 1996. It
had to have been in 1955. And it wasn't just a slip-up when Scrooge
says that the earlier expedition took place fifty years ago; he repeats
this in Part 3, when (as he rushes into the ancient Money Bin) he says,
"Nephew, I've been thinking about it for fifty years!" So this story
has to have happenned 50 years after the earlier expedition, which we
are told was in 1905. You are thus telling us that the current year is
1955. So why couldn't you do the same thing with the King Arthur story?
Wilmer Rivers
You say you had to reject your preferred storyline for "The Once and
Future Duck" because it hinges on King Arthur's saying that the
current year is 1955, and your readers would wonder why it wasn't 1996
instead. But didn't you explicitly make the current year be 1955 in
"The Tresury of Croesus"? Near the end of Part 1, Dewey says of the
bases of the temple columns that "The guidebook says they were uncovered
by treasure hunters in 1905," and Scrooge reveals that it was in fact
his own expeditiion which made that discovery. Then in Part 2, when
Professor Pigayam challenge's Scrooge's right to conduct an archaeolog-
ical study at the site, Scrooge whips out a permit, saying "Sultan Hamid
himself gave me this fifty years ago!" So, if the 1905 expedition took
place 50 years ago, it's now 1955, right? There's no way the readers
can take it to be 1996. Furthermore, Kamil Attaturk (sp.???), the
founder of modern Turkey, booted the Sultan out of the country shortly
after World War I, so "fifty years ago" there **wasn't** a Sultan Hamid
to give Scrooge the permit, if you take the story to happen in 1996. It
had to have been in 1955. And it wasn't just a slip-up when Scrooge
says that the earlier expedition took place fifty years ago; he repeats
this in Part 3, when (as he rushes into the ancient Money Bin) he says,
"Nephew, I've been thinking about it for fifty years!" So this story
has to have happenned 50 years after the earlier expedition, which we
are told was in 1905. You are thus telling us that the current year is
1955. So why couldn't you do the same thing with the King Arthur story?
Wilmer Rivers
Donald D. Markstein
Junkville Journal
Message 198 -
1996-05-27 at 06:29:28
TODD --
I don't know what DC's deal is as regards Warner animated characters, but
the new stuff being produced isn't done by them -- Katie Main at Warner Bros.
Worldwide Publishing is supervising production of comics stories in bulk, with
subordinate editors handling at least three categories (Looney Tunes, Animaniacs
and Tiny Toons, which DC isn't picking up). These are distributed Egmont-style
to various licensees around the world. I could be wrong, but it was my
impression that the older material was included in the mix.
ARTHUR DE LI'L BAD --
I don't necessarily see a connection between Gladstone's emphasis on
older readers and the weakness of Disney comics in America -- I just pointed out
that other publishers might, which would support their reluctance to change
their own emphasis -- and even if I were SURE they were wrong, I'd be hard
pressed to muster arguments supporting that position.
And Marvel may be in a down period right now, along with the rest of the
U.S. comics industry, but they're still a very strong line and in no apparent
danger of growing weaker.
DON R. --
Prince Valiant's father was a Viking and Val himself was a knight in King
Arthur's court, so you're right, in your story, showing him as well-groomed
would be inappropriate. But his mother was a Roman aristocrat (they still had
some of those in the 5th century), and Roman aristocrats were pretty
well-groomed, so... (I happen to be, in all likelihood, the foremost Prince
Valiant expert on this list. As the saying goes, I "wrote the book" on Prince
Valiant -- or edited it, anyway, and it took enough editing to just about
qualify as writing. [A Prince Valiant Companion, Manuscript Press, 1992.])
Quack,
Don Markstein
I don't know what DC's deal is as regards Warner animated characters, but
the new stuff being produced isn't done by them -- Katie Main at Warner Bros.
Worldwide Publishing is supervising production of comics stories in bulk, with
subordinate editors handling at least three categories (Looney Tunes, Animaniacs
and Tiny Toons, which DC isn't picking up). These are distributed Egmont-style
to various licensees around the world. I could be wrong, but it was my
impression that the older material was included in the mix.
ARTHUR DE LI'L BAD --
I don't necessarily see a connection between Gladstone's emphasis on
older readers and the weakness of Disney comics in America -- I just pointed out
that other publishers might, which would support their reluctance to change
their own emphasis -- and even if I were SURE they were wrong, I'd be hard
pressed to muster arguments supporting that position.
And Marvel may be in a down period right now, along with the rest of the
U.S. comics industry, but they're still a very strong line and in no apparent
danger of growing weaker.
DON R. --
Prince Valiant's father was a Viking and Val himself was a knight in King
Arthur's court, so you're right, in your story, showing him as well-groomed
would be inappropriate. But his mother was a Roman aristocrat (they still had
some of those in the 5th century), and Roman aristocrats were pretty
well-groomed, so... (I happen to be, in all likelihood, the foremost Prince
Valiant expert on this list. As the saying goes, I "wrote the book" on Prince
Valiant -- or edited it, anyway, and it took enough editing to just about
qualify as writing. [A Prince Valiant Companion, Manuscript Press, 1992.])
Quack,
Don Markstein
Jacob Sparre Andersen
"Strandet i tiden" [D 95079]
Message 199 -
1996-05-27 at 15:03:15
Don (and everybody else):
Just read the first part of "Strandet i tiden" (your DD + king Arthur story). It's
good!
There's a lot of stuff in the first panel:
I spotted the "D.U.C.K." (don't wanna say where)
Shouldn't the crash spot on Gyro's wall be on the opposite side of the wall. As far as
I remember, the wall was moved of the neighbor's lot. - Anyway, if we didn't see the
spot, we probably wouldn't recognize the wall. - Those bad Egmont colourists; they made
the wall brown, not grey.
The mail box is a true Gyro invention.
I look forward to the rest of the story (should I expect to have to buy two or three
DD&Co. issues?).
Quack,
Jacob
--
Jacob Sparre Andersen http://www.nbi.dk/~sparre/
Center for Chaos and Turbulence Studies Phone: (+45) 39 65 53 51
The Niels Bohr Institute (+45) 35 32 53 05
--
Have you played with your LEGO today?
Just read the first part of "Strandet i tiden" (your DD + king Arthur story). It's
good!
There's a lot of stuff in the first panel:
I spotted the "D.U.C.K." (don't wanna say where)
Shouldn't the crash spot on Gyro's wall be on the opposite side of the wall. As far as
I remember, the wall was moved of the neighbor's lot. - Anyway, if we didn't see the
spot, we probably wouldn't recognize the wall. - Those bad Egmont colourists; they made
the wall brown, not grey.
The mail box is a true Gyro invention.
I look forward to the rest of the story (should I expect to have to buy two or three
DD&Co. issues?).
Quack,
Jacob
--
Jacob Sparre Andersen http://www.nbi.dk/~sparre/
Center for Chaos and Turbulence Studies Phone: (+45) 39 65 53 51
The Niels Bohr Institute (+45) 35 32 53 05
--
Have you played with your LEGO today?
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #112
Message 200 -
1996-05-27 at 15:33:00
NILS:
No, I have no say in how any publishers use my stories anywhere. Sometimes I
have advance knowledge of what Gladstone plans to do since they had been
asking me for covers to accompany the reprints (though that's stopped now),
but I would still never seek to meddle in their business, partly since it's
not my place and partly since it would be futile as I have no ownership in
my stories whatsoever once I send them to Egmont. From then on they are
Disney's property to allow their licensees to do with as they please, when
they please.
However, no, I was very unhappy to see that Gladstone planned to start
serializing my stories in WDC&S. Naturally I prefer the stories to appear as
one part, but even if they are serialized, the chapters were intended to be
read 1 week apart, not 9 weeks apart. Gladstone said they were sorry but
they needed my stories to help sell that $6 WDC&S, so that was all I could do.
I might have had a bit of influence a few years back when I found out they
planned to put the "Lo$" into UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES; I told them that I
had sure been hoping that they would use it in the title I had grown up
with, the "real" title, UNCLE $CROOGE. But they said they had been using U$
for the Egmont gag stories, and using U$A for the adventure stories -- but I
made them realize that if they put "Lo$" into U$A, that meant no one would
see any Barks reprints for two years, and that would have been ungood.
JYRKI:
Are there any "Pertwillaby Papers" adventures that I have yet to turn into
Duck stories? There were only 4 "PP" adventures altogether, and one
unfinished one. The first "PP" story became my "Cash Flow". The second
became "The Son of the Sun". The fourth became "The Universal Solvent", with
some stuff left over for yet another story someday. The "unfinished 5th"
became "The Once and Future Duck" with much left over which will soon become
a sequel to "The Universal Solvent". The third "PP" adventure involved a
search for the Nazi's looted art treasures of WWII Europe, and it involved
lots of killing and murder and Adolf Hitler and Martin Bormann and might be
frowned on as a Donald Duck story, and I think I might leave that one alone.
Oh, but I just realized I took one sequence out of it (in which Hitler did
not appear) and turned that into "The Duck Who Fell to Earth".
No, I have no say in how any publishers use my stories anywhere. Sometimes I
have advance knowledge of what Gladstone plans to do since they had been
asking me for covers to accompany the reprints (though that's stopped now),
but I would still never seek to meddle in their business, partly since it's
not my place and partly since it would be futile as I have no ownership in
my stories whatsoever once I send them to Egmont. From then on they are
Disney's property to allow their licensees to do with as they please, when
they please.
However, no, I was very unhappy to see that Gladstone planned to start
serializing my stories in WDC&S. Naturally I prefer the stories to appear as
one part, but even if they are serialized, the chapters were intended to be
read 1 week apart, not 9 weeks apart. Gladstone said they were sorry but
they needed my stories to help sell that $6 WDC&S, so that was all I could do.
I might have had a bit of influence a few years back when I found out they
planned to put the "Lo$" into UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES; I told them that I
had sure been hoping that they would use it in the title I had grown up
with, the "real" title, UNCLE $CROOGE. But they said they had been using U$
for the Egmont gag stories, and using U$A for the adventure stories -- but I
made them realize that if they put "Lo$" into U$A, that meant no one would
see any Barks reprints for two years, and that would have been ungood.
JYRKI:
Are there any "Pertwillaby Papers" adventures that I have yet to turn into
Duck stories? There were only 4 "PP" adventures altogether, and one
unfinished one. The first "PP" story became my "Cash Flow". The second
became "The Son of the Sun". The fourth became "The Universal Solvent", with
some stuff left over for yet another story someday. The "unfinished 5th"
became "The Once and Future Duck" with much left over which will soon become
a sequel to "The Universal Solvent". The third "PP" adventure involved a
search for the Nazi's looted art treasures of WWII Europe, and it involved
lots of killing and murder and Adolf Hitler and Martin Bormann and might be
frowned on as a Donald Duck story, and I think I might leave that one alone.
Oh, but I just realized I took one sequence out of it (in which Hitler did
not appear) and turned that into "The Duck Who Fell to Earth".
Frank Stajano
Disney comics Digest V96 #112
Message 201 -
1996-05-27 at 19:24:43
NILS:
> . Where can one find the Becattini index? Is it in Italian?
It is a no-profit, low circulation (1000 copies) two-volume book
consisting entirely of tables filled with data, plus lots of
illustrations from the comics. There is one entry per Disney comic book
issue from 1940 to 1962 detailing stories, authors, reprints and, where
available, Italian reprints. As it practically does not have any text
besides this data, it is pointless to say whether it is in Italian or in
English: the American titles are in English, the Italian ones in Italian
and that's about it, really! ;-)
Sometimes frustrating because of the way it is organised, this book --
the result of many years of research -- is nevertheless packed with
useful information and if you are a serious Disney fan you really don't
want to be without it.
Assuming that copies are still available, you may try writing to the
publisher:
AL FUMETTO CLUB
Via G. Della Casa 12 R
50142 Firenze
Italy
I bought mine in a bookshop (two bookshops, actually -- the 2nd volume
didn't exist yet when I bought the 1st) and paid 30000 itL for each
volume (approx US$20 I think).
--
Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms
> . Where can one find the Becattini index? Is it in Italian?
It is a no-profit, low circulation (1000 copies) two-volume book
consisting entirely of tables filled with data, plus lots of
illustrations from the comics. There is one entry per Disney comic book
issue from 1940 to 1962 detailing stories, authors, reprints and, where
available, Italian reprints. As it practically does not have any text
besides this data, it is pointless to say whether it is in Italian or in
English: the American titles are in English, the Italian ones in Italian
and that's about it, really! ;-)
Sometimes frustrating because of the way it is organised, this book --
the result of many years of research -- is nevertheless packed with
useful information and if you are a serious Disney fan you really don't
want to be without it.
Assuming that copies are still available, you may try writing to the
publisher:
AL FUMETTO CLUB
Via G. Della Casa 12 R
50142 Firenze
Italy
I bought mine in a bookshop (two bookshops, actually -- the 2nd volume
didn't exist yet when I bought the 1st) and paid 30000 itL for each
volume (approx US$20 I think).
--
Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms
Steve Crooks
Page missing?
Message 202 -
1996-05-28 at 00:02:20
I have finally gotten around to reading the first volume of the Gladstone "Life
& Times..." album collection. But I think I'm missing a page! Foe one thing,
the first page of the text piece says, "Continued after 'Buckaroo of the
Badlands'", but there is no more text to be found. Second, there are only two
of the splash pages, Part 1 and Part 2. Part 2 seems to end with Scrooge at
the bar thinking "Hmmm...A coal bin full of money!" Then the next page has
Pothole selling the ship to Scrooge. That appears to be the logical split
between 2 & 3, but I don't know for sure. Page numbers would sure be a help!
My originals are buried at the moment, so I can't easily check to see if art
pages are missing. Does anybody else have this problem, or do all of you have
the full text piece?
--
--Steve Crooks (Email removed)
composed on 27-MAY-96 1:27 pm
& Times..." album collection. But I think I'm missing a page! Foe one thing,
the first page of the text piece says, "Continued after 'Buckaroo of the
Badlands'", but there is no more text to be found. Second, there are only two
of the splash pages, Part 1 and Part 2. Part 2 seems to end with Scrooge at
the bar thinking "Hmmm...A coal bin full of money!" Then the next page has
Pothole selling the ship to Scrooge. That appears to be the logical split
between 2 & 3, but I don't know for sure. Page numbers would sure be a help!
My originals are buried at the moment, so I can't easily check to see if art
pages are missing. Does anybody else have this problem, or do all of you have
the full text piece?
--
--Steve Crooks (Email removed)
composed on 27-MAY-96 1:27 pm
Steve Crooks
Scrooge statue
Message 203 -
1996-05-28 at 00:02:27
I found an interesting Scrooge artifact in Boulder, Colorado recently. In the
window of a mostly-incense-and-a-few-other-curio-type-items shop was a two-foot
tall Donald carved out of wood. It was very well done. As I stared at it with
a mild lust, my wife said, "Oh my God," poked me, and pointed. There was Uncle
Scrooge! He looked just right except that his coat trim was green instead of
black. He stood about 2 to 2 1/2 feet tall with his cane and hat in a typical
Scrooge pose and was carved out of wood. The shop was closed so I could only
stare through the window for a while. The next day, my birthday, we went back
and took a closer look. He was dusty and "sale" priced at $225. Yowtch! As
my wife and I debated buying it, my friend (who was hosting us in Boulder for a
few days) bought it for me for my birthday! He's a generous guy, and I guess
he saw my look of desire! The clerk brought out the box he came in and said (I
think) it was from the Phillipines. On top of the box it said, "Dagobert". He
now stands proudly in my dining room on an antique radio. Has anybody seen
anything like this or have any more information about it? I wish I could show
you a picture--it's a very nice piece of work! It's too bad I couldn't afford
Donald....
--
--Steve Crooks (Email removed)
composed on 27-MAY-96 1:40 pm
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window of a mostly-incense-and-a-few-other-curio-type-items shop was a two-foot
tall Donald carved out of wood. It was very well done. As I stared at it with
a mild lust, my wife said, "Oh my God," poked me, and pointed. There was Uncle
Scrooge! He looked just right except that his coat trim was green instead of
black. He stood about 2 to 2 1/2 feet tall with his cane and hat in a typical
Scrooge pose and was carved out of wood. The shop was closed so I could only
stare through the window for a while. The next day, my birthday, we went back
and took a closer look. He was dusty and "sale" priced at $225. Yowtch! As
my wife and I debated buying it, my friend (who was hosting us in Boulder for a
few days) bought it for me for my birthday! He's a generous guy, and I guess
he saw my look of desire! The clerk brought out the box he came in and said (I
think) it was from the Phillipines. On top of the box it said, "Dagobert". He
now stands proudly in my dining room on an antique radio. Has anybody seen
anything like this or have any more information about it? I wish I could show
you a picture--it's a very nice piece of work! It's too bad I couldn't afford
Donald....
--
--Steve Crooks (Email removed)
composed on 27-MAY-96 1:40 pm
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Steve Crooks
Radio ids
Message 204 -
1996-05-28 at 00:02:35
I think a few months ago there was a discussion on this list for some reason
about US radio stations and their call signs. If I have blinkus of the thinkus
and this is the wrong list, please forgive the waste of bandwidth!
The rest of this message is from Popular Science, January 1996:
"Why do radio stations in the western half of the US begin with "K", while
eastern stations start with "W"? And why those two letters?"
Simply because that's the way the letters were assigned under international
agreement.
The idea of using identifying call letters is almost as old as radio itself,
writes Thomas H. White in _Radio_Ink_ magazine. In 1912, call letters became
formalized under federal authority. By international agreement, the US
received combinations beginning with "N", "W", and "K". All "N" combinations
were reserved for government stations. In the West, "W-" calls were used for
ships and "K-" for land stations; the opposite was true in the East.
Calls for amateur and special land stations were designated by "X," for
experimental stations; "Y," for those run by technical or training schools; and
"Z," for those with "special amateur" status.
--
--Steve Crooks (Email removed)
composed on 27-MAY-96 1:57 pm
about US radio stations and their call signs. If I have blinkus of the thinkus
and this is the wrong list, please forgive the waste of bandwidth!
The rest of this message is from Popular Science, January 1996:
"Why do radio stations in the western half of the US begin with "K", while
eastern stations start with "W"? And why those two letters?"
Simply because that's the way the letters were assigned under international
agreement.
The idea of using identifying call letters is almost as old as radio itself,
writes Thomas H. White in _Radio_Ink_ magazine. In 1912, call letters became
formalized under federal authority. By international agreement, the US
received combinations beginning with "N", "W", and "K". All "N" combinations
were reserved for government stations. In the West, "W-" calls were used for
ships and "K-" for land stations; the opposite was true in the East.
Calls for amateur and special land stations were designated by "X," for
experimental stations; "Y," for those run by technical or training schools; and
"Z," for those with "special amateur" status.
--
--Steve Crooks (Email removed)
composed on 27-MAY-96 1:57 pm
David A Gerstein
Thumper abandoned in the Black Forest
Message 205 -
1996-05-28 at 06:15:49
According to a recent HOLLYWOOD REPORTER article, courts have
apparently ruled that Disney only held a copyright to use the Felix
Salten _Bambi_ characters for a certain number of years, and even
their film fell under this license.
Anyway, I figure Disney's going to either pay plenty to keep
producing its Bambi-related paraphernalia, or else POOF -- all Bambi
characters save those created just for Disney will not be allowed in
Disney comics and other items.
The upshot being that Thumper will probably be the only
character associated in the standard mind with Bambi who'll be
appearing in Disney products for the time being. I mention this with
regard to Egmont writers on this list who might be using some of the
characters in Li'l Wolf stories now (as I eventually planned to do).
A story involving Flower the skunk which I planned to do, for example,
will most certainly be taboo. I don't know what the license situation
is in Europe, but it sounds grim over here (whether Disney made their
own bed and is now sleeping in it is up to the individual to decide,
of course... I'm just saying Disney fans will regret the loss of these
characters in their Disney versions, as it appears may happen now).
One thing that I might bring up... when using Bambi in Forest
stories in the past (including some Chip 'n' Dale ones), it seems no
one could decide if the "present" Bambi is a young deer or an old
one... a moot point now I guess...
DON ROSA LO$ ALBUM #1
is now in my hands. While Gladstone wasn't allowed to
re-insert guns into the James Boys' hands in Part III, I notice that
they have redrawn Scrooge's bill on page 2 so that it looks as it
should. I also see that the gold teeth are more consistently colored
gold throughout the album. Any other changes that anyone sees (that
goes for you too, Don)?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
apparently ruled that Disney only held a copyright to use the Felix
Salten _Bambi_ characters for a certain number of years, and even
their film fell under this license.
Anyway, I figure Disney's going to either pay plenty to keep
producing its Bambi-related paraphernalia, or else POOF -- all Bambi
characters save those created just for Disney will not be allowed in
Disney comics and other items.
The upshot being that Thumper will probably be the only
character associated in the standard mind with Bambi who'll be
appearing in Disney products for the time being. I mention this with
regard to Egmont writers on this list who might be using some of the
characters in Li'l Wolf stories now (as I eventually planned to do).
A story involving Flower the skunk which I planned to do, for example,
will most certainly be taboo. I don't know what the license situation
is in Europe, but it sounds grim over here (whether Disney made their
own bed and is now sleeping in it is up to the individual to decide,
of course... I'm just saying Disney fans will regret the loss of these
characters in their Disney versions, as it appears may happen now).
One thing that I might bring up... when using Bambi in Forest
stories in the past (including some Chip 'n' Dale ones), it seems no
one could decide if the "present" Bambi is a young deer or an old
one... a moot point now I guess...
DON ROSA LO$ ALBUM #1
is now in my hands. While Gladstone wasn't allowed to
re-insert guns into the James Boys' hands in Part III, I notice that
they have redrawn Scrooge's bill on page 2 so that it looks as it
should. I also see that the gold teeth are more consistently colored
gold throughout the album. Any other changes that anyone sees (that
goes for you too, Don)?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #113
Message 206 -
1996-05-28 at 08:06:00
WILMER:
While I'm delighted that you spotted all three hidden clues in my "Croesus"
story that show that it takes place in 1955, you must realize that these ARE
hidden clues. I mean, it's not like they aren't obvious bits of dialogue,
but an analytical mind must take them from their various locations, put them
together, check the history books, etc., do the math and come out with 1955.
I could never have done that in the "Arthur" story in the spot where I
needed Art to say at the proper climactic moment, point blank, "it's 1955".
That would have not been hidden. But I think it was YOU who described a way
around that problem in some previous Digest where I could have done the deed
with something other than naming years, and that would have been the only
way. But... too late now for EITHER way.
JACOB:
Another guy who is spotting all the lil' not-so-hidden bits. Yes, I knew
that foam-concrete wall was on the wrong side of Gyro's house, with the goat
and the nasty little boy living on the wrong side also. Perhaps Gyro traded
homes with that neighbor at some point for some reason? Actually, I started
thinking of those little gag details to add after I already had the panel
laid out, and thought I'd still put the stuff in there even though it was
pointing in the wrong direction. There's stuff like that sprinkled all
through my stories -- do you think you ever spot it all? I forget about it
myself after a while, and I need to go back hunting for it like anyone else.
STEVE:
A Disney figurine carved out of wood? This does not sound like a licensed
item. It sounds like something someone did to sell to tourists or to Disney
fans or as a store display or for any number of other illicit purposes.
Sure, I know that a place like Anri currently has a license to do Disney
wood figurines, but that doesn't sound like the sort of thing you found in
that nic-nak store. What did the box look like? Was it professionally
printed showing all the proper manufacturer and copyright information?
"Dagobert" is, of course, the German name for $crooge, which doesn't make
anything here easier to figure out.
But if you actually have a licensed, wooden $crooge figurine there... tell
me what you'd like to have for it in trade? I don't know anything about it,
but I'd love to add it to my collection!
While I'm delighted that you spotted all three hidden clues in my "Croesus"
story that show that it takes place in 1955, you must realize that these ARE
hidden clues. I mean, it's not like they aren't obvious bits of dialogue,
but an analytical mind must take them from their various locations, put them
together, check the history books, etc., do the math and come out with 1955.
I could never have done that in the "Arthur" story in the spot where I
needed Art to say at the proper climactic moment, point blank, "it's 1955".
That would have not been hidden. But I think it was YOU who described a way
around that problem in some previous Digest where I could have done the deed
with something other than naming years, and that would have been the only
way. But... too late now for EITHER way.
JACOB:
Another guy who is spotting all the lil' not-so-hidden bits. Yes, I knew
that foam-concrete wall was on the wrong side of Gyro's house, with the goat
and the nasty little boy living on the wrong side also. Perhaps Gyro traded
homes with that neighbor at some point for some reason? Actually, I started
thinking of those little gag details to add after I already had the panel
laid out, and thought I'd still put the stuff in there even though it was
pointing in the wrong direction. There's stuff like that sprinkled all
through my stories -- do you think you ever spot it all? I forget about it
myself after a while, and I need to go back hunting for it like anyone else.
STEVE:
A Disney figurine carved out of wood? This does not sound like a licensed
item. It sounds like something someone did to sell to tourists or to Disney
fans or as a store display or for any number of other illicit purposes.
Sure, I know that a place like Anri currently has a license to do Disney
wood figurines, but that doesn't sound like the sort of thing you found in
that nic-nak store. What did the box look like? Was it professionally
printed showing all the proper manufacturer and copyright information?
"Dagobert" is, of course, the German name for $crooge, which doesn't make
anything here easier to figure out.
But if you actually have a licensed, wooden $crooge figurine there... tell
me what you'd like to have for it in trade? I don't know anything about it,
but I'd love to add it to my collection!
JALustig
Odds-and-Ends
Message 207 -
1996-05-28 at 08:47:19
Here's a few odds-and-ends that I've been meaning to comment on for a couple
of weeks or so:
DAVID:
I talked to Bill Van Horn and he said that if you--or anyone else--want to
use one of his Disney characters then go ahead. In regard to Uncle Rumpus
specifically, Bill says he's working on a third story in which he gives the
character a little more depth. If you want to take a crack at the character
as is, though, then go ahead.
JAPANESE DISNEY COMICS:
I know that a few months ago Egmont printed up one or more comics in Japanese
as prototypes. I don't know how widely they were distributed. I understand
from talking to Egmont editor Byron Erickson recently that they have
concluded some sort of deal with the Japanese to produce some Disney comics
in Japan. I don't know, however, how many or when they might come out. I
think it's still pretty much on an experimental basis, but I really don't
have a lot of hard and fast information about the plan.
STEVEN ROWE:
Thank you very much for your info about the First Kiss artists. By the way,
though, MY name is "Lustig" not "Lusting." Or was that supposed to be a joke?
MICHAEL NAIMAN:
If you're still looking for copies of the Barks Collector then let me know
and I'll see what I can do. I have most of the issues. (I'm missing issues
#3, 6, 7, 8, 10 & 17.)
DON MARKSTEIN & THE 4TH NEPHEW:
Don, if you've got an idea to do a 4th nephew story then don't let me stop
you. My idea for a story is probably different enough that there wouldn't be
any conflict. (Besides, it might be awhile before I can get around to doing
it. I've got several other stories in mind that I want to do first.) However,
I did talk to Byron Erickson about it recently and he advised me that he
really isn't looking for a "4th nephew" story in the near future, because
Egmont already has a story involving SIX nephews in a story. In any event,
you might want to check with Byron first before you start on a
story--assuming it's for Egmont.
By the way, Byron says he has trouble understanding how anyone at Egmont
could have referred to the 4th nephew as being named "Barks." Apparently the
newspapers over there gave the 4th nephew error a fair amount of coverage.
Eventually Egmont even had a "name the nephew contest." Sorry, I can't find
my notes from the conversation so I can't tell you what the winning name was
in Danish. It wasn't "Phooey," though. And it wasn't "Barks" either.
3-D DISNEY COMIC:
Recently several people have mentioned the 3-D comic book that Disney Comics
produced a few years back. (Disney's Comics in 3-D #1 was published in 1992.)
In addition to reprinting two Barks stories and a Rosa, people have also
noted that it included a William Van Horn story. This is only partially
correct. The story "Billion Bean Stampede" was indeed drawn by Van Horn, but
it was written by me. It originally appeared in 1990 in issue #13 of
Gladstone's DuckTales.
GIANFRANCO GORIA:
Janet Gilbert hasn't been on this mailing list for quite awhile, but I did
pass your message on to her via e-mail.
CON APPEARANCES:
I'll be a guest on August 11 at Center Con in Seattle. Things don't look good
for me making it to San Diego this year, but I still haven't ruled it out. Is
there going to be a Disney panel this year? I haven't heard anything about
it?
That's all for now.
--John Lustig
of weeks or so:
DAVID:
I talked to Bill Van Horn and he said that if you--or anyone else--want to
use one of his Disney characters then go ahead. In regard to Uncle Rumpus
specifically, Bill says he's working on a third story in which he gives the
character a little more depth. If you want to take a crack at the character
as is, though, then go ahead.
JAPANESE DISNEY COMICS:
I know that a few months ago Egmont printed up one or more comics in Japanese
as prototypes. I don't know how widely they were distributed. I understand
from talking to Egmont editor Byron Erickson recently that they have
concluded some sort of deal with the Japanese to produce some Disney comics
in Japan. I don't know, however, how many or when they might come out. I
think it's still pretty much on an experimental basis, but I really don't
have a lot of hard and fast information about the plan.
STEVEN ROWE:
Thank you very much for your info about the First Kiss artists. By the way,
though, MY name is "Lustig" not "Lusting." Or was that supposed to be a joke?
MICHAEL NAIMAN:
If you're still looking for copies of the Barks Collector then let me know
and I'll see what I can do. I have most of the issues. (I'm missing issues
#3, 6, 7, 8, 10 & 17.)
DON MARKSTEIN & THE 4TH NEPHEW:
Don, if you've got an idea to do a 4th nephew story then don't let me stop
you. My idea for a story is probably different enough that there wouldn't be
any conflict. (Besides, it might be awhile before I can get around to doing
it. I've got several other stories in mind that I want to do first.) However,
I did talk to Byron Erickson about it recently and he advised me that he
really isn't looking for a "4th nephew" story in the near future, because
Egmont already has a story involving SIX nephews in a story. In any event,
you might want to check with Byron first before you start on a
story--assuming it's for Egmont.
By the way, Byron says he has trouble understanding how anyone at Egmont
could have referred to the 4th nephew as being named "Barks." Apparently the
newspapers over there gave the 4th nephew error a fair amount of coverage.
Eventually Egmont even had a "name the nephew contest." Sorry, I can't find
my notes from the conversation so I can't tell you what the winning name was
in Danish. It wasn't "Phooey," though. And it wasn't "Barks" either.
3-D DISNEY COMIC:
Recently several people have mentioned the 3-D comic book that Disney Comics
produced a few years back. (Disney's Comics in 3-D #1 was published in 1992.)
In addition to reprinting two Barks stories and a Rosa, people have also
noted that it included a William Van Horn story. This is only partially
correct. The story "Billion Bean Stampede" was indeed drawn by Van Horn, but
it was written by me. It originally appeared in 1990 in issue #13 of
Gladstone's DuckTales.
GIANFRANCO GORIA:
Janet Gilbert hasn't been on this mailing list for quite awhile, but I did
pass your message on to her via e-mail.
CON APPEARANCES:
I'll be a guest on August 11 at Center Con in Seattle. Things don't look good
for me making it to San Diego this year, but I still haven't ruled it out. Is
there going to be a Disney panel this year? I haven't heard anything about
it?
That's all for now.
--John Lustig
Vidar Svendsen
Odds-and-Ends
Message 208 -
1996-05-28 at 11:13:07
On Tue, 28 May 1996 (Email removed) wrote:
> Egmont already has a story involving SIX nephews in a story. In any event,
Oh, no..... could somebody tell me when it'll be printed, so I don't have
to see it???
I picked up my copy of DD (norwegian) yesterday. I knew about the new Don
Rosa-story, I knew about the Rota-story, but I didn't know there was a
Van Horn-story as well. It's so nice with surprises like this :)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-Vidar
Touch one hair of that tyrkey's head!
Just DARE touch it!
> Egmont already has a story involving SIX nephews in a story. In any event,
Oh, no..... could somebody tell me when it'll be printed, so I don't have
to see it???
I picked up my copy of DD (norwegian) yesterday. I knew about the new Don
Rosa-story, I knew about the Rota-story, but I didn't know there was a
Van Horn-story as well. It's so nice with surprises like this :)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-Vidar
Touch one hair of that tyrkey's head!
Just DARE touch it!
Wilmer Rivers
A flock of ducks
Message 209 -
1996-05-28 at 17:14:50
JOHN LUSTIG:
There will be a story with ***6*** of Donald's nephews??? How about a
story in which all 6 nephews meet all 36 Beagle Boys? I'd like to see
someone try to squeeze that crowd into a single cartoon panel! Of
course, if Disney can put out comics featuring all 101 Dalmations, then
why not? Bring in the clones!
Wilmer Rivers
There will be a story with ***6*** of Donald's nephews??? How about a
story in which all 6 nephews meet all 36 Beagle Boys? I'd like to see
someone try to squeeze that crowd into a single cartoon panel! Of
course, if Disney can put out comics featuring all 101 Dalmations, then
why not? Bring in the clones!
Wilmer Rivers
Harry Fluks
Steve: page missing?
Message 210 -
1996-05-28 at 19:34:08
STEVE:
It seems you are missing SEVERAL pages in your copy of the
Lo$ #1 album. The album should have 60 pages, not including the cover:
1 page prologue (made as part of chapter 1);
14 pages chapter 1;
1 page "the making of";
28 pages chapter 2;
15 pages chapter 3;
1 page "the making of".
> Part 2 seems to end with Scrooge at
> the bar thinking "Hmmm...A coal bin full of money!" Then the next page
> has Pothole selling the ship to Scrooge.
Though this could be a logical split between two stories, it's only one
big chapter 2. Seems like you're missing most or all of chapter 3.
You must have gotten a misprint.
--Harry.
It seems you are missing SEVERAL pages in your copy of the
Lo$ #1 album. The album should have 60 pages, not including the cover:
1 page prologue (made as part of chapter 1);
14 pages chapter 1;
1 page "the making of";
28 pages chapter 2;
15 pages chapter 3;
1 page "the making of".
> Part 2 seems to end with Scrooge at
> the bar thinking "Hmmm...A coal bin full of money!" Then the next page
> has Pothole selling the ship to Scrooge.
Though this could be a logical split between two stories, it's only one
big chapter 2. Seems like you're missing most or all of chapter 3.
You must have gotten a misprint.
--Harry.