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Timo Ronkainen
>the mouse books are better since the stories fitted the giant pages so
>there was no need to mutilate them.

Yes, old newspaper strips fits perfectly on that format - altough in
somewhat small size, comparing to their original size they were printed in
newspapers 1930's and 40's.

Timo

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Xephyr
A little something I through together months ago, and now
I want to ask some questions:
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/ART/Woodchucks.gif

1. Are April, May & June considered members of the Junior
Chickadees Patrol?

2. Is it generally agreed that the Chickadees and the Junior
Explorers (Giovani Esploratrici) are one-and-the-same?

3. Has Captain Ramrod appeared since Barks stopped drawing/
writing stories about the Chickadees?

4. If the Grand Mogul is a Duck (not Bertie) who is the
dogface Mogul that Barks created?

5. Are Lapo and General Snozzie the same character? If not,
are they related somehow? They both appear to be Bloodhounds.

6. Alvin, Chuck & Newton, like HDL, all predate the existence
of the comicbook GIOVANI MARMOTTE published in Italy. TRUE?

7. Does Lardello have roots prior to the publication of that
book? Is he anyone we might have seen previously? Have any
of his family ever appeared? Who?

8. I know the recurring girls are Clarissa (the Scout Mistress),
Mitzie, Cindy, Scarlet and Betty. Can anyone match the names
with the girls in the picture linked above? I believe Scarlet
is the red-headed duckling. That leaves the dogface with glasses,
the chubby chicken-girl and the Asian duckling. I probably added
one too many girls with the other dogface girl. However, the
INDUCKS characters lists for DUCK UNIVERSE also lists a "Litzie."
I'm betting that's a typo or another spelling for Mitzie. Have
there been any other girl-scouts introduced in the series?

9. Do the girls have a mascot (like Lapo/Snozzie), too?

10. Who is the alien "Blinkie"? Does he appear more than just
one time?

Thanks,

Rich Bellacera

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Ari Seppi
Fabio:
>Who's Oona????

She is a cavewoman who likes Donald very much.

Rich:
>I saw a story where Oona was dating some other duck. He
>had actual hair and a certain style of clothing as I recall.
>In the story Donald had to reconcile the two or she threatened
>to return her attentions onto him. Who was that other Duck
>and does Oona still see him? I suppose it could have just
>been a one-shot character, but Oona appeared to have been
>dating him before this certain tale began implying he may
>have appeared before.

Actually he is a duck from the future. They had never seen each
other before the story but (after seeing Oona's picture) the future
duck was attracted to her and came back in time to meet Oona.
She didn't like him so - to get rid of Oona - Donald had to try to
make Oona fall in love with this future duck.

It didn't work very well, only at the end of the story Oona got
attracted to future duck as he repeatedly hit his head on tree,
just like Oona likes doing. But after that future duck's girl
friend came get him back.

( http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/D+99017 )

--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Stefan Persson
xephyr at cwnet.com wrote:

> 1. Are April, May & June considered members of the Junior
> Chickadees Patrol?

Yes.

> 2. Is it generally agreed that the Chickadees and the Junior
> Explorers (Giovani Esploratrici) are one-and-the-same?

Yes.

> 3. Has Captain Ramrod appeared since Barks stopped drawing/
> writing stories about the Chickadees?

Who is Captain Ramrod?

> 4. If the Grand Mogul is a Duck (not Bertie) who is the
> dogface Mogul that Barks created?

Yet another Grand Mogul.

> 5. Are Lapo and General Snozzie the same character? If not,
> are they related somehow? They both appear to be Bloodhounds.

I would say that they are, but Inducks and that picture show them as
different characters.

> 6. Alvin, Chuck & Newton, like HDL, all predate the existence
> of the comicbook GIOVANI MARMOTTE published in Italy. TRUE?

Only Alvin and Newton, AFAIK.

> 9. Do the girls have a mascot (like Lapo/Snozzie), too?

I haven't seen any, at least.

> 10. Who is the alien "Blinkie"? Does he appear more than just
> one time?

He appears twice. BTW, his name is Blink, not Blinkie.

Stefan
Stefan Persson
xephyr at cwnet.com wrote:
> http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/dijon.html
How comes that none of the images on that page works?
Stefan
Stefan Persson
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:

>>- Whitman Goose: Gus' nephew: slim, intelligent
>>and hard-working
>>
>>
>Nope, Gus does not have any brother or sister, so no nephew is possible.
>
Correction: Gus does not have any *known* brother or sister, but he
might have hundreds or thousands of *unknown* brothers and sisters, so a
nephew would be fully possible.

> 1) $crooge have two sisters (Matilda and Hortense) only!

Correction: U$ has two *known* sisters, but he might have hundreds or
thousands of *unknown* sisters (or brothers, for that matter), so a twin
brother would be fully possible.

Stefan
Stefan Persson
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:

> The problem is that Egmont would probably not accept this idea - even though
> they do accept obscure characters like thise Gideon - because they dosen't
> accept any marriage between Matilda McDuck and Ludwig von Drake.

Then have someone make that story for some other publisher (and remove
the part of the non-existing marriage between Matilda and Ludwig).

Stefan
Gunnarsson, Joakim SE - HMJ
> > "Q: [about newspaper strips]What did you do in the
> > beginning - writing
> > stories, doing pencils, inks?
> >
> > A: I did pencil art only for strips."
>
Well, after having checked the inking on his Uncle Remus sundays and
compared it with Murrys good girl art cartoons:
I believe that the inking was made by the very same person who inked Murrys
gag cartoons.
I believe that Murry did ink his gag cartoons himself. Or did he?
However, *the very last one* of Murrys Uncle Remus sundays is definitely
inked by Dick Moores.
His inking style is so distinct that it's easy to tell the difference.
But it seems that most people says that Moores inked the whole run of Murrys
Uncle Remus sundays.
So my question is does anyone have proof that he did? Or is this "fact" only
based on the quote above?
Murry might well have misremembered what he did some 35-40 years ago.

Anyone who knows for sure?
Or that has a scource for the statement about Moores inking all of Uncle
Remus?

Cheers!

/Joakim Gunnarsson.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Cord Wiljes <cord at wiljes.de> wrote:

> And since we already have a DELLa Duck I also
> propose:
>
> - Goldkey Glomgold: Flintheart's father

Yes, why not?

> - Whitman Goose: Gus' nephew: slim, intelligent
> and hard-working

Nope, Gus does not have any brother or sister, so no nephew is possible. A
"Whitman Goose" gould instead be a cousin or an uncle on his father Luke
Goose's side.

> - Egmont McDuck: Scrooges twin, hatched from
> the same egg, separated at birth

Please don't spoil your otherwise good ideas by this!

1) $crooge have two sisters (Matilda and Hortense) only!

2) I can't see any reason what so ever, why Fergus and Downy McDuck would
split a pair of twins at birth. Even though it would be possible to do
interesting stories based upon yoor idea.

3) AFAIK the paradigma of today is that $crooge and the other Ducks in
Duckburgs are ordinary people drawn like Ducks - and that they thus are born
like human beings, not hatched from eggs just like other birds.

Sigvald :-)
Lars Jensen
Søren Krarup Olesen wrote:

> SIGVALD + more(?!) (LARS are you with me? :-)

Who, me? I'm right here.

I haven't gotten involved in this "99950 km to Langtvekkistan" debate,
partly because I'm busy with work, partly because I think everybody
(including Sigvald) has made some valid points, and I have nothing to
add.

> What happened to Fethry?!

Fethry is in the weekly all the time!!! Jeez, Søren, I would've thought
you knew this by now. I've said it often enough. (Grumble!)

As for why Disney stories are more "realistic" than they used to be...
That's a long long discussion, and I don't really have time for it here
and now. Sorry. But I do understand where you're coming from...

Lars
Lars Jensen
timo ronkainen wrote:

>> of a recent case in a pocket book where a date from the 19th century
>> was mentioned, but where the given weekday was wrong...
>
> They just take these things out of blue, without checking... even if
> it might be easy.

Who are "they"? Translators? Editors? Writers?

Lars
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
xephyr at cwnet.com wrote:

>> And since we already have a DELLa Duck I also
> propose:
> - Goldkey Glomgold: Flintheart's father
> - Whitman Goose: Gus' nephew: slim, intelligent
> and hard-working
> - Egmont McDuck: Scrooges twin, hatched from
> the same egg, separated at birth
>
>> I like this concept, and it would be a nice
>> tribute to all the years of Disney comics.
>> Of course we couldn't have a "twin" for
>> Scrooge since there's enough controversy
>> over whether or not Gideon is truly his
>> brother (as a Scarpa-fan, I don't have much
>> problem with it, though). So, maybe Egmont
>> could be the financial genious son of Matilda
>> Ludwig von Drake? :-)

A very good and well thought idea indeed! However his name would normally be
Egmont von Drake - unless he takes his mother's family name in order to get
attention in the financial world. Such a character gould have financial
talents from his mother's side combined with scientific talents from his
father's side - a real match for Scrooge. Reminds me of a Western where
Calamity Jane finally meet a lady who was able to defeat her in several
diciplines (swearing, poker, drinking, fighting and shooting) and in the end
discovered that the other lady was her own long disapeared mother. One idea
could be that this "Egmont von Drake" could be identical with the phantom in
Notre Duck? That would explain why he look familiar with Scrooge.

The problem is that Egmont would probably not accept this idea - even though
they do accept obscure characters like thise Gideon - because they dosen't
accept any marriage between Matilda McDuck and Ludwig von Drake.

Sigvald :-)
Theresa Wiegert
Sigvald:
> 3) AFAIK the paradigma of today is that $crooge and the other Ducks in
Duckburgs are ordinary people drawn like Ducks - and that they thus are
born like human beings, not hatched from eggs just like other birds.

Ok, I know there are people here with that opinion. Nevertheless, I have
to object!!! This thought makes my skin crawl, it's even blasphemic to me!
No matter how human, the ducks have feathers, beaks and orange beautiful
flat swimmingfeet - an appearance to be proud of. So they must be hatched
from hardshelled eggs. Actually I think that even adds to the wonderful
feeling of the duckworld.

But since it never occurs in any story, or is even heard of, I think we
should leave it at that. But... Oh please, don't mention it again! (not
that we should be kept from talking about stuff, it's just that...
aaaaargh!)

KVACK!
/Theresa, birdlover who happens to love eggs...
Arie Fachrisal
Hi,
In the past, Barks and probably other disney comic artists got his/their
stories censored here and there in the name of "Political Correctness". This
includes Indian-like characters in Barks story (or issit stories), Brer
Rabbit and the gang, and most likely Hiawatha (actually i'm guessing about
Hiawatha).

As of now, such censorship has been toned down if not erased. There're basic
guides by various Disney Comics publisher in Europe that Fethry exists or
not, and such just like recently discussed, Ludwig von Drake.

So what i want to know is who and why these characters and perhaps many
others are set to be "non-existant" in duck world. It couldnt be the
"politically correct"?

Oh yeah, and when one or more Disney comic artists drew new characters and
start using the new chars as part of their own duck world (like Oona and
Rufus). do the characters actually get some kind of "reviews/judgements" by
the publisher in order to decide whether or not the new chars can be used by
the artists again?

Please note that my questions arent intended to take side on what chars
should be included as "non-existant" or "exists" than the recent situation.
It's just a curiosity.

Thanks to anyone who'll answer this,
Arie Fachrisal
Timo Ronkainen
>Nope, Gus does not have any brother or sister, so no nephew is possible.

Well, it's not hard to invent one. For example Donald had no uncle *before*
Barks *invented* one - just because he needed one for story. Scrooge had no
sisters *before* Rosa *invented* them. No one ever spoke about Rumpus, but
he appeared one day just like that, because William vanHorn decided to make
up new character. Why not just add a brother or sister for Gus. Basicly it's
as simple as that. Comics writer is "god".

Timo

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Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
¨¨ Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
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Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"

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