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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Fernando Ventura <fernandopventura at uol.com.br> wrote:

> I certaily LOVE this version!!! Much more than
> the cute Marco Rota's little Donald breaking
> his egg (an incredible story too)! This furious
> birthday resumes wath is REALLY Donald Duck to
> me! :o)

Yes, Marco Rota's "My life in an Egg Shell" is a nice story which
represented, and my still represent Marco Rota's view on the Duck-universe.
However we can say for sure that it does not represnt Barks' view on the
Duck universe as the two has a contradictory view on the relations between
the central characters Grandma Duck and Uncle $crooge Mc Duck - and as Rob
klein just stated Barks was very clear when it came to the relations between
the "core" characters. Anyway it's still possible to enjoy teh stories of
both Rota and Barks.

Sigvald :-)
Ggk
> There's a short film, which I like very much - Fountain of Youth (anyone
> seen it? You should! :) Where Donald and HDL gets involved with a
> crocodiles and (HM! Have I mixed it up now with another one??) - anyway,
> as far as I remember, Donald plays a trick on HDL and pretends to be
> younger and younger, and then there is only an egg left, and HDL get a bit
> upset "Do you suppose... he shrunk into THAT?". In the meantime, Donald
> has serious problems with 2 eggs which hatch, and 2 crocodile babies think
> he's their mom. Which Ma Croc doesn't appreciate too much... Hilarious
> film, + it's evident that the egg scenario is the most plausible one.
> (Ma Croc: "OH! MY BABIES!" in a voice sounding as it originates from the
> farther border of hell, finding her small croc-babies... )
>

Ther was olsow a story (by Vicar ? I don't remeber by hou) it olsow was
obout ,,Fountain of Youth" in wich Donald find two Egg's and fot that HD&Z
turn in to egg's agian.

Yours Maciek
Ggk
> Ther was olsow a story (by Vicar ? I don't remeber by hou) it olsow was
> obout ,,Fountain of Youth" in wich Donald find two Egg's and fot that HD&Z
> turn in to egg's agian.

Sorry it was tree egg's not two. My mistaik

Your's Maciek
Timo Ronkainen
Maciek:
>Ther was olsow a story (by Vicar ? I don't remeber by hou) it olsow was
>obout ,,Fountain of Youth" in wich Donald find two Egg's and fot that HD&Z
>turn in to egg's agian.

Yes, I do also remember this story, and managed to find it unusually easy.
Fountain of Youth D 3133. Published in Finland Aku Ankka 20/1976. Fast paced
story where ducks travels to south pole and find warm valley in middle of
ice. There's also this fountain of youth. Scrooge actually transforms into
egg when he falls in to the fountain!
Writer of the story is unknown.

Timo

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>From: "ggk" <ggk at wp.pl>
>To: "Theresa Wiegert" <theresaw at oso.chalmers.se>, <>
>Subject: Re: ducks and eggs
>Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 21:53:25 +0200
>
> > There's a short film, which I like very much - Fountain of Youth (anyone
> > seen it? You should! :) Where Donald and HDL gets involved with a
> > crocodiles and (HM! Have I mixed it up now with another one??) - anyway,
> > as far as I remember, Donald plays a trick on HDL and pretends to be
> > younger and younger, and then there is only an egg left, and HDL get a
>bit
> > upset "Do you suppose... he shrunk into THAT?". In the meantime, Donald
> > has serious problems with 2 eggs which hatch, and 2 crocodile babies
>think
> > he's their mom. Which Ma Croc doesn't appreciate too much... Hilarious
> > film, + it's evident that the egg scenario is the most plausible one.
> > (Ma Croc: "OH! MY BABIES!" in a voice sounding as it originates from the
> > farther border of hell, finding her small croc-babies... )
> >
>

>
>Yours
>
>
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Frank Bubacz
Hmmm... I have only dim memories of that story, but maybe Maciek meant this
one (also drawn by Vicar):

http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/D++5114

Frank

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Shad Z.
Disney Adventures vol 13, no 4 (May 2002)

Continuing my listing of what's in this month's issue
of the only current source for Disney comics in
America... (Gemstone is coming, but isn't here yet!)

Matt Feazel's content page doodles (Dizzy Adventures) are
given story code JZ725.

1) The Hair Pair: no title, JZ727, 1 page.
Story and Art by Charly La Greca.
"The Hair Pair" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Charly La Greca.

2) The Proud Family: "Proud to be Proud!", no story code,
3 pages.
No credits.
Characters include Penny Proud, Dijonay Jones,
LaCienega Boulevardez, Zoey, Trudy Proud, Oscar Proud,
BeBe Proud, CeCe Proud, Shuga Mama, Wizard Kelly and
Puff.

3) Kim Possible: "Where's Rufus!", JZ728, 2 pages.
Story by John Green. Art by Disney TV Animation.
Characters include Kim Possible, Ron Stoppable, Wade, Dr.
Drakken and Rufus.

4) Jet Pack Pets: "Trouble's a Foot!", JZ724, 3
pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish.
"Jet Pack Pets" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Michael Stewart & Garry Black.

5) The Last Laugh: "Try SNORTS -- The SNACK That's Also a
SPORT!", JZ726, 1 page.
Written by John Green. Art by Charly La Greca

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Lunnan & Hjort
As we know, Gemstone is about to start republishing Disney Comics,
with "Uncle Scrooge", "Walt Disney's Comics & Stories", and later on
also "Mickey Mouse" and "Donald Duck", I understand.
* We may finally buy Rosa stories in the original language;
* the required doses of Barks will be injected into the veins of the
new generations;
* we'll again see Gladstone Gander try to out-date Donald for the premier
datee Daisy;
* our blood will shiver (does blood shiver? yes I think so, at least quaver)
when Mickey is pitted against formidable adversaries in fiendish plots
(perhaps Peg-Leg Pete will win, next time?);
&cetera &cetera. Long live. Hurrah. Applause.

But how shall we go about actually getting the stuff?
* Take the bus to Torp airport and jump onto one of the less expensive
flights to New York or Chicago. Bring your passport. Remember to tell
your boss that you might be late for work. Then spend some days trying
to locate comic shops. Maybe a couple of these will actually carry the
new Gemstone magazines. And maybe not.
* Try to subscribe directly from gemstone. It should be possible.
* OR, if you live in Norway, at least, or Scandinavia, it might be easier
& simpler & less expensive to go to www.calisota.no . Check out
"News" / nyheter, and "Subscription" / abonnement, or use the contact
mail address given there. This will take you to a very dependable guy,
Harald A. Subscribers to the Disney Comics magazines will get the
"Maharajah Donald" March of Comics #4 1947 for free. (Not the ugly
boring original, but the slick freshly printed one, which has better paper quality.)

Sorry about the "commercial plug" aspect of this mailing, but I simply consider
this valuable information for us Scandinavians, at least. (I have nothing to
do with www.calisota.no myself, I'm simply glad it exists.)

Nils Lid Hjort
Lars Jensen
timo ronkainen wrote:

>>>> a recent case in a pocket book where a date from the 19th
>>>> century was mentioned, but where the given weekday was wrong...
>>>
>>> They just take these things out of blue, without checking... even if
>>> it might be easy.
>>
>> Who are "they"? Translators? Editors? Writers?
>
> Sometimes one of those, most of the time all three. :-) Sometimes
> translator can add something "funny" that never appeared in original.
> Or then writer just fabricates nonsense without checking anything -
> "it's just silly comics for kids, they'll never notice it" - and
> editor doesn't check things either.
> "They" sounds little paranoid... heh...

A month ago I wrote a script in which there is a one-panel gag about
bean sprouts. My editor did some research, discovered we couldn't use a
bean sprout in this context and had me go on the Net to find a
substitute for the plant. I ended up spending half an hour of my working
day on this - as well as having to pay my Internet provider for the 30
minutes, obviously. All this for a throw-away one-panel gag that I doubt
most readers would notice anything wrong with. But it was the right
thing to do.

I'm currently writing a story that takes place in a country similar to
the Netherlands. (But not the same!) I went to the library and read two
books about the Netherlands, just to get a feeling for the place. I'm
expecting to go on the Net later today and do more research - or
possibly visit the library and read another book or two. Not because I
have to (the story doesn't take place in the actual Netherlands,
remember) - but because I feel I should in order to get the right
"vibe".

A few years ago I came up with a story about ants. I read four books
about ants, just to find out what kind of ants I should use. Not because
it would've made any difference to the happenings of the story, or
because most readers would've noticed, but because *I* needed to know. I
needed to know what to tell the artist to draw.

I have many more examples. True, not all of my stories are this
demanding, but many of them are.

My editors spend a lot of time checking facts. I happen to know that the
Danish translator of the weekly is very dedicated to his job. And we
both know about Carl Barks' and Don Rosa's research. Which means that in
every case where I know a writer's, editor's or translator's approach to
his or her job, I know they take it seriously.

Lars
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Nils Lid Hjort <brit.lunnan at chello.no> wrote:

> Sorry about the "commercial plug" aspect of
> this mailing,

Don't be! Every sane person in this group and everywhere can see that your
mailing is *not* spam-terrorism!

But thanks for remining me to mention that during this weekend only I have
got 6 (six) spam-mails (two including so-called uncertain elements) to this
mail-account. As the only way this adress is published on the internet and
thus made available to the spam-terrorists is via DCML, Soren Krarup Olesen
and other experts here maybe could consider relevant counterattacks.

Sigvald :-)
Cord Wiljes
Sigvald wrote:

> But thanks for remining me to mention that during this weekend only I have
> got 6 (six) spam-mails (two including so-called uncertain elements) to this
> mail-account. As the only way this adress is published on the internet and
> thus made available to the spam-terrorists is via DCML, Soren Krarup Olesen
> and other experts here maybe could consider relevant counterattacks.

Sorry, the only possible strategy is either ignoring the spam mail or setting
up a spam filter on your computer. Spam mailers collect eMail addresses via
spiders, which are programms which automatically browse the WWW and collect
eMail addresses. So sooner or later everybody who posts to DCML is indexed
because DCML messages are archived in the Mail Archive as well as in the
Newsgroups archive on Google:

http://groups.google.com/groups?group=fa.disney-comics

Best wishes
Cord

P.S.: Here you find a hillarious article by someone who actually tried to
contact one of the infamous spammers which offer million dollar transactions:
http://www.willcoxinfo.bravepages.com/
Theresa Wiegert
Cord:
> Sorry, the only possible strategy is either ignoring the spam mail or
> setting up a spam filter on your computer. Spam mailers collect eMail
> addresses via spiders, which are programms which automatically browse
> the WWW and collect eMail addresses. So sooner or later everybody who
> posts to DCML is indexed because DCML messages are archived in the Mail
> Archive as well as in the Newsgroups archive on Google:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?group=fa.disney-comics

ARgh! I never realized that the addresses from the DCML-mailing will be
put online in that manner! And I have gone to great extent to protect my
current emailaddress. Is there any way of *not* making the addresses
viewable for spam collectors for this mailinglist? On my own homepage I
don't write out the @-sign (I make it "at" instead or _at_ or somethng
similar, and in the link I add a REMOVE_THIS after the address. That has
proved to be successful, until I started writing more to the mailinglist,
and stupid me never saw the connection (even though I do know that the
conversations are available online). It would be nice to continue to
sometimes write to the list, of course, so best would be if something
could be done about the appearance of our addresses publicly.

Is there perchance a pine-guru here on the list who might be able to give
some tips on how to make pine (mailprogram for linux/unix) filter incoming
mails?

/Theresa
Olof Siverbo
Hello!

I'm gathering information for an article about various Disney comic-book
artists, and I'd like to know whether Jack Bradbury and Frank McSavage are
still alive. Does anybody on this list know? (In the case of McSavage, it
sounds unlikely since he was born in 1903.)

Ducky wishes,

Olof Siverbo
Gothenburg, Sweden
Luca Boschi
Hello, Olof Siverbo

Jack Bradbury, with her wife Mary Jim Karp, lives in Santa Rosa (but he's
moving in this very period to one Jack's son home in another State) and
feels fine, even if he doesn't draw anymore from years and years. I'm in
touch with them from some twenty years. If you want, I can say hallo to them
by yours.

Frank McSavage is dead. Alberto Becattini called him by phone some years
ago. Check an article on him on ZP, around 2000...

Bye,

L.
Stefan Persson
Theresa Wiegert wrote:

> Is there perchance a pine-guru here on the
> list who might be able to give some tips on
> how to make pine (mailprogram for linux/unix)
> filter incoming mails?

Setup (S): Rules (R): Filters (F): Add (A).

Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:

> I guess computer-geniouses as Thomas Lauritsen, Ari Seppi and Soren
Krarup
> Olesen can help you.

I guess not, since they seem to be using different e-mail programs.

Stefan
M.J. Prior
I tried to write a whole dissertation, but I realize this
(point f) is the only "important" part:

f) If the Ducks are human beings portrayed as ducks, then
it's only appropriate that their birth (however human it
may be "in reality") is also portrayed as duck-like, e.g.
from eggs.

[Cf. "in reality" Donald would be a human being with hair,
small eyes, a mouth, ten fingers, human legs, while being
portrayed as having feathers, large eyes, a beak, eight
fingers and webbed feet.]

Okay, so here goes...

a) The Ducks are supposed to be 'charicaturized human
characters' like Tintin and Asterix.

b) The Ducks are not portrayed like human beings, but as
large waterfowl.

c) Their birth should be similar to that of human beings,
since they are human characters, only...

d) Portraying human birth might be considered
inappropriate, while egg hatching looks pretty innocent
and inoffensive.

e) Children would be puzzled. Ducks hatch from eggs.
(The Dutch DD weekly still gets letters asking Donald why
he doesn't *fly on his own wings* instead of drive a car.)

f) If the Ducks are human beings portrayed as ducks, then
it's only appropriate that their birth (however human it
may be "in reality") is also portrayed as duck-like, e.g.
from eggs.

g) Duck-egg-birth has been portrayed various times in
Disney comics, while there seem to be no known instances
of 'mammal birth'. Why would anyone argue for mammal
birth, if we already have those various instances of egg
birth?

And to Sigvald: I agree that that Peeweegah
egg-'n-arrow-sign could or should be considered a sign
with a general meaning considering all human beings and
not only Ducks, but then it wouldn't be funny. [But it's
nice to see that this sign can be explained both ways,
depending on your preference.]

And to all members who like to regard the Ducks as real
human beings, an imho not unimportant remark:

Try and compare Donald and Scrooge to Vladek Spiegelman.
Agreed, the Ducks are no real ducks, as Vladek is no real
Maus, but as human beings the Ducks are far less
realistic.

Scrooge may meet actual historical persons like Czar
Nicholas II and John Jacob Astor (both died under awful
circumstances) and yet he doesn't seem to live in a world
where Auschwitz has happened.

Michiel Prior.
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