Rob:
> It seems to me that we have MANY MANY different Duck Universes
> (probably ALMOST
> as many as we have different creators (live and deceased)! Few of them
> coincide CONGRUENTLY in ALL their various aspects.
And this is especially true for the most fluid of all worlds: Disney
Prime - the Disney universe as defined by the latest set of licensing
liaisons. They're work is never done.
Gary
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Gary Leach
DCML Digest, Vol 3, Issue 23
Message 271 -
2003-05-14 at 04:56:42
Olaf Solstrand
Free Comic?
Message 272 -
2003-05-14 at 06:01:06
> $5 from Diamond seems a little expensive for the company that produced the
comic!
I guess they are well aware of how many Europeans will order this.
comic!
I guess they are well aware of how many Europeans will order this.
Kriton Kyrimis
Spanish Inquisition
Message 273 -
2003-05-14 at 09:21:28
ROB:
> "The Spanish Inquisition has three.... no, four.... no five ways to....
I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! ;-)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I will venture just one question, Doctor. What precisely do you *do* in
there?"
"Argue, mainly!"
-----
> "The Spanish Inquisition has three.... no, four.... no five ways to....
I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! ;-)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I will venture just one question, Doctor. What precisely do you *do* in
there?"
"Argue, mainly!"
-----
Olaf Solstrand
Spanish Inquisition
Message 274 -
2003-05-14 at 09:25:35
> ROB:
>
> > "The Spanish Inquisition has three.... no, four.... no five ways to....
>
> I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! ;-)
>
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
>
> > "The Spanish Inquisition has three.... no, four.... no five ways to....
>
> I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! ;-)
>
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Rob Klein
No subject
Message 275 -
2003-05-14 at 10:02:47
"Disneyland" Magazine was published in The Netherlands as well. I'm not sure,
but I think I remember seeing it also in Germany. Wasn't it published in most
of the European countries, as an effort to tie The new park at Disneyworld
Paris to other Disney merchandising and to Disney comic books and publications
all together - and also provide a Disney magazine for younger children?
Rob
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but I think I remember seeing it also in Germany. Wasn't it published in most
of the European countries, as an effort to tie The new park at Disneyworld
Paris to other Disney merchandising and to Disney comic books and publications
all together - and also provide a Disney magazine for younger children?
Rob
Klein
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Søren Krarup Olesen
Comments to ROB
Message 276 -
2003-05-14 at 11:28:49
OLAF + SIGVALD + ROB:
> ...my guess would be that the original poster on this matter, S?ren,
> HAS read the story and knows whether such a thingie is involved or
> not, and wouldn't post it if it was.
Donald's sailor shirt is swapped with a "space jacket", that indeed
makes Donald think that he can fly. Only on these the last pages in the
series, Donald is wearing a bathrobe, so...
The story is not a just another "alien story", but is about the trouble
that (the unlucky as always) Donald gets into, simply because he one
day discovers that he can fly.
The whole point of showing this panel is (but I already wrote that,
didn't I) that you can prove anything if you pick a story that supports
whatever view you have on wings/no wings etc.
I personally prefer the "no wings" theory, but I can easily "prove" that
Donald indeed has wings by scanning one of the HooZoo stories, but
isn't that somewhere on Rich' site?
Sigvald, a good advice to you: Try to read a larger variety of stories,
and you may find them--the "obscure" ones--interesting as well.
S?ren
> ...my guess would be that the original poster on this matter, S?ren,
> HAS read the story and knows whether such a thingie is involved or
> not, and wouldn't post it if it was.
Donald's sailor shirt is swapped with a "space jacket", that indeed
makes Donald think that he can fly. Only on these the last pages in the
series, Donald is wearing a bathrobe, so...
The story is not a just another "alien story", but is about the trouble
that (the unlucky as always) Donald gets into, simply because he one
day discovers that he can fly.
The whole point of showing this panel is (but I already wrote that,
didn't I) that you can prove anything if you pick a story that supports
whatever view you have on wings/no wings etc.
I personally prefer the "no wings" theory, but I can easily "prove" that
Donald indeed has wings by scanning one of the HooZoo stories, but
isn't that somewhere on Rich' site?
Sigvald, a good advice to you: Try to read a larger variety of stories,
and you may find them--the "obscure" ones--interesting as well.
S?ren
H.W.Fluks
(Rob's mail without subject)
Message 277 -
2003-05-14 at 11:35:46
Rob Klein wrote:
> "Disneyland" Magazine was published in The Netherlands as
> well. Wasn't it published in most
> of the European countries, as an effort to tie The new park
> at Disneyworld Paris to other Disney merchandising [..]
The "Disneyland" magazine in The Netherlands started way before
EuroDisney (later Disneyland Paris) existed.
> and also provide a Disney magazine for younger children?
That's it.
--Harry.
> "Disneyland" Magazine was published in The Netherlands as
> well. Wasn't it published in most
> of the European countries, as an effort to tie The new park
> at Disneyworld Paris to other Disney merchandising [..]
The "Disneyland" magazine in The Netherlands started way before
EuroDisney (later Disneyland Paris) existed.
> and also provide a Disney magazine for younger children?
That's it.
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
A small comment eggs and ducks
Message 278 -
2003-05-14 at 14:49:28
Cord Wiljes wrote:
> I do not think they are mammals. Why should they?
> If it looks like a duck and swims like a duck chances
> are it is a duck.
Actually I only recall stories where Donald swims like a
human, *not* like a duck.
--Harry.
> I do not think they are mammals. Why should they?
> If it looks like a duck and swims like a duck chances
> are it is a duck.
Actually I only recall stories where Donald swims like a
human, *not* like a duck.
--Harry.
Cord Wiljes
WG: A small comment eggs and ducks
Message 279 -
2003-05-14 at 15:05:21
Cord wrote:
>> If it looks like a duck and swims like a duck chances
>> are it is a duck.
Harry Fluks replied:
> Actually I only recall stories where Donald swims like a
> human, *not* like a duck.
Yes, you are right. Donald does in fact swim like a human.
And I thought I could get away with it ;-)
"If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at
least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic
bird of the family anatidae on our hands." (Douglas Adams)
Cord
>> If it looks like a duck and swims like a duck chances
>> are it is a duck.
Harry Fluks replied:
> Actually I only recall stories where Donald swims like a
> human, *not* like a duck.
Yes, you are right. Donald does in fact swim like a human.
And I thought I could get away with it ;-)
"If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at
least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic
bird of the family anatidae on our hands." (Douglas Adams)
Cord
SRoweCanoe
WG: A small comment eggs and ducks
Message 280 -
2003-05-14 at 15:13:55
In a message dated 5/14/2003 8:08:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cord at wiljes.de
writes:
> "If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at
> least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic
> bird of the family anatidae on our hands." (Douglas Adams)
>
but in this case, "it is all lines on paper, folks!"
aint fish nor fowl (nor even human) - just drawings and stories by folks who
can tell a good one!
steven rowe
writes:
> "If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at
> least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic
> bird of the family anatidae on our hands." (Douglas Adams)
>
but in this case, "it is all lines on paper, folks!"
aint fish nor fowl (nor even human) - just drawings and stories by folks who
can tell a good one!
steven rowe
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
A Serious Accident to Scrooge McDuck (1912) and more
Message 281 -
2003-05-14 at 16:37:28
Michiel Prior:
| Another funny detail: the name of the captain of the Carpathia, the
| ship that picked up the survivors, was Haddock!
| (Or maybe it was another captain of another ship, but there was a
| capt. Haddock involved.
Maybe another ship... The only captain Haddock I know is Tintin's
friend. CARPATHIA's captain was Arthur Henry Rostron.
BTW, "Maus" is of course pretty well known in Norway, but you know
how it is with our friend's ability to generalize when it comes to
things not known by himself.
J?rgen
| Another funny detail: the name of the captain of the Carpathia, the
| ship that picked up the survivors, was Haddock!
| (Or maybe it was another captain of another ship, but there was a
| capt. Haddock involved.
Maybe another ship... The only captain Haddock I know is Tintin's
friend. CARPATHIA's captain was Arthur Henry Rostron.
BTW, "Maus" is of course pretty well known in Norway, but you know
how it is with our friend's ability to generalize when it comes to
things not known by himself.
J?rgen
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Comments to ROB
Message 282 -
2003-05-14 at 16:53:17
Olaf Solstrand <olaf at andebyonline.com> wrote:
> 1) The actual story is AFAIK not written or
> drawn by any of the major famous creators who
> have fronted the development of the Duckburg-
> universe.
>
> 2) The actual story seems to be one of the
> large mass, not a reprinted timless classic.
>
> .... 1) neither is "Sign of the Triple
> Distelfink".
> .... 2) same goes for "Sign of the Triple
> Distelfink".
Pardon my language, but this is pure BULLSHIT!!!
You know, as I and veryone else here know, that Don Rosa's name is put on
the front of the Scandinavian Weeklies - just as with Barks' name. That
proves that he is a very important creator. And we both knows that it's just
a matter of time before "Sign of the Triple Distelfink" will be reprinted.
So I hope that you was just kidding here - and not seriously attacking Don
Rosa's name and reputation?
Sigvald :-)
> 1) The actual story is AFAIK not written or
> drawn by any of the major famous creators who
> have fronted the development of the Duckburg-
> universe.
>
> 2) The actual story seems to be one of the
> large mass, not a reprinted timless classic.
>
> .... 1) neither is "Sign of the Triple
> Distelfink".
> .... 2) same goes for "Sign of the Triple
> Distelfink".
Pardon my language, but this is pure BULLSHIT!!!
You know, as I and veryone else here know, that Don Rosa's name is put on
the front of the Scandinavian Weeklies - just as with Barks' name. That
proves that he is a very important creator. And we both knows that it's just
a matter of time before "Sign of the Triple Distelfink" will be reprinted.
So I hope that you was just kidding here - and not seriously attacking Don
Rosa's name and reputation?
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
"Disneyland"-magazine
Message 283 -
2003-05-14 at 17:00:35
Rob Klein <bi442 at lafn.org> wrote:
> "Disneyland" Magazine was published in The
> Netherlands as well. I'm not sure, but I
> think I remember seeing it also in Germany.
> Wasn't it published in most of the European
> countries, as an effort to tie The new park
> at Disneyworld Paris to other Disney
> merchandising and to Disney comic books and
> publications all together - and also provide
> a Disney magazine for younger children?
Impossible!!! The "Disneyland"-magazine I was reffering to was published in
the early/mid 1970s while Disneyworld Paris wasn't opened until 1992 alsmost
20 years later.
By the way - I am still waiting for any comments on this topic from our
Danish friends. If the Magazine exixted in both Norway and Sweden I would
expect that it did exist in Denmark too.
Sigvald :-)
> "Disneyland" Magazine was published in The
> Netherlands as well. I'm not sure, but I
> think I remember seeing it also in Germany.
> Wasn't it published in most of the European
> countries, as an effort to tie The new park
> at Disneyworld Paris to other Disney
> merchandising and to Disney comic books and
> publications all together - and also provide
> a Disney magazine for younger children?
Impossible!!! The "Disneyland"-magazine I was reffering to was published in
the early/mid 1970s while Disneyworld Paris wasn't opened until 1992 alsmost
20 years later.
By the way - I am still waiting for any comments on this topic from our
Danish friends. If the Magazine exixted in both Norway and Sweden I would
expect that it did exist in Denmark too.
Sigvald :-)
Søren Krarup Olesen
Comments to ROB
Message 284 -
2003-05-14 at 17:29:19
SIGVALD:
> [...] So I hope that you was just kidding
> here - and not seriously attacking Don Rosa's name and reputation?
And weren't you attacking the "name and reputation" of Luciano Gatto,
when you called the story "one of the large mass" and didn't place him
amongst the "major famous" crew of artists? No, please don't answer,
it's perfectly okay. I didn't feel insulted or anything, but why *must*
you place your knowledge and your observations into little boxes with
golden labels and tell us why your opinions are better, more profound
and more canon-like than others. That's what little me cannot
comprehend.
Perhaps the answer is given already. Some 5 years ago, I felt more or
less the same way. In my case I grew up with the love of Italian
stories plus Barks. I found Don Rosa's art "obscure", and still haven't
read all the stories in LO$, because they bored me (and still do). His
later stories, however, made me laugh a lot and I discovered lot's of
humour in his telling etc. Yet, let's not forget that I have spent 100s
of hours enjoying Luciano Gatto's art over the years, and that, with
all respect to the "name and reputation" of Don, counts just a little
bit more. See?
Please, Sigvald, be a little less defensive, that would help me at
least, so I don't have to read about so-called "facts" and "proofs".
BTW, hoping to be meeting you this summer, then we can "attack" each
other over a cup of beer, a pizza (AC and Thomas in a nutshell, hehe!)
or perhaps (for a change) a more sophisticated dinner :-)
Best,
S?ren
> [...] So I hope that you was just kidding
> here - and not seriously attacking Don Rosa's name and reputation?
And weren't you attacking the "name and reputation" of Luciano Gatto,
when you called the story "one of the large mass" and didn't place him
amongst the "major famous" crew of artists? No, please don't answer,
it's perfectly okay. I didn't feel insulted or anything, but why *must*
you place your knowledge and your observations into little boxes with
golden labels and tell us why your opinions are better, more profound
and more canon-like than others. That's what little me cannot
comprehend.
Perhaps the answer is given already. Some 5 years ago, I felt more or
less the same way. In my case I grew up with the love of Italian
stories plus Barks. I found Don Rosa's art "obscure", and still haven't
read all the stories in LO$, because they bored me (and still do). His
later stories, however, made me laugh a lot and I discovered lot's of
humour in his telling etc. Yet, let's not forget that I have spent 100s
of hours enjoying Luciano Gatto's art over the years, and that, with
all respect to the "name and reputation" of Don, counts just a little
bit more. See?
Please, Sigvald, be a little less defensive, that would help me at
least, so I don't have to read about so-called "facts" and "proofs".
BTW, hoping to be meeting you this summer, then we can "attack" each
other over a cup of beer, a pizza (AC and Thomas in a nutshell, hehe!)
or perhaps (for a change) a more sophisticated dinner :-)
Best,
S?ren
Søren Krarup Olesen
A comment to Sigvald
Message 285 -
2003-05-14 at 17:38:27
SIGVALD:
> [...] So I hope that you was just kidding
> here - and not seriously attacking Don Rosa's name and reputation?
And weren't you attacking the "name and reputation" of Luciano Gatto,
when you called the story "one of the large mass" and didn't place him
amongst the "major famous" crew of artists? No, please don't answer,
it's perfectly okay. I didn't feel insulted or anything, but why *must*
you place your knowledge and your observations into little boxes with
golden labels and tell us why your opinions are better, more profound
and more canon-like than others. That's what little me cannot
comprehend.
Perhaps the answer is given already. Some 5 years ago, I felt more or
less the same way. In my case I grew up with the love of Italian
stories plus Barks. I found Don Rosa's art "obscure", and still haven't
read all the stories in LO$, because they bored me (and still do). His
later stories, however, made me laugh a lot and I discovered lot's of
humour in his telling etc. Yet, let's not forget that I have spent 100s
of hours enjoying Luciano Gatto's art over the years, and that, with
all respect to the "name and reputation" of Don, counts just a little
bit more. See?
Please, Sigvald, be a little less defensive, that would help me at
least, so I don't have to read about so-called "facts" and "proofs".
BTW, hoping to be meeting you this summer, then we can "attack" each
other over a cup of beer, a pizza (AC and Thomas in a nutshell, hehe!)
or perhaps (for a change) a more sophisticated dinner :-)
Best,
S?ren
> [...] So I hope that you was just kidding
> here - and not seriously attacking Don Rosa's name and reputation?
And weren't you attacking the "name and reputation" of Luciano Gatto,
when you called the story "one of the large mass" and didn't place him
amongst the "major famous" crew of artists? No, please don't answer,
it's perfectly okay. I didn't feel insulted or anything, but why *must*
you place your knowledge and your observations into little boxes with
golden labels and tell us why your opinions are better, more profound
and more canon-like than others. That's what little me cannot
comprehend.
Perhaps the answer is given already. Some 5 years ago, I felt more or
less the same way. In my case I grew up with the love of Italian
stories plus Barks. I found Don Rosa's art "obscure", and still haven't
read all the stories in LO$, because they bored me (and still do). His
later stories, however, made me laugh a lot and I discovered lot's of
humour in his telling etc. Yet, let's not forget that I have spent 100s
of hours enjoying Luciano Gatto's art over the years, and that, with
all respect to the "name and reputation" of Don, counts just a little
bit more. See?
Please, Sigvald, be a little less defensive, that would help me at
least, so I don't have to read about so-called "facts" and "proofs".
BTW, hoping to be meeting you this summer, then we can "attack" each
other over a cup of beer, a pizza (AC and Thomas in a nutshell, hehe!)
or perhaps (for a change) a more sophisticated dinner :-)
Best,
S?ren