Sigvald:
> This is for now, you may no longer be seen as a newbie in 2005...
No, but a story published in June 2005 would have to be written pretty soon.
Plotting, synopsing, scripting and - not to forget - getting Mr. Erickson's
comments and approval for all those steps - would take _at least_ three
months. Plus, someone has to draw it, add some months. Plus planning,
colouring, translating, printing... _IF_ I were to write such a story, I
would have to start soon - thus, while still being a newbie.
> Who says that such a story *must* happen in 1905?
That was what you suggested, so I answered it.
> I bet a good writer, as I know that you are...
Don't exaggerate. You have read _one_ of my scripts. Before it was drawn.
I'm not a good writer - or, if I am, neither of us know me good enough to
know for sure.
> Besides who says it have to be published everywhere? There are even some
> stories by Don Rosa which are published in Norway and not in Sweden.
Well, but that is not my aim when writing stories. Unless specifically asked
different, of course I try coming up with ideas that CAN be published
anywhere!
> No wonder! Israel is a very controversial state. Anti-Israeli attitudes
are
> wide blah blah blah blah blah...
OK, sorry I mentioned it. I just picked a random example because Izrael is a
nation I _knew_ had a national anniversary some years ago - but I'm sure
there's lots of better examples.
> Well, if he doesn't ask Don Rosa, I certainly hope that he will ask you to
> do this.
I see no reason he should.
Olaf the Royal Blue
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Olaf Solstrand
17th of May
Message 331 -
2003-05-17 at 21:25:56
Olaf Solstrand
17th of May
Message 332 -
2003-05-17 at 21:59:58
> You are of course allowed to have your own oppinions, whatever they are,
> about the Israeli-Palestine conflict, but I don't think this is a smart
way
> to show it (*if* this "blah blah..." statement by any chanse was meant as
a
> comment against my comment about this) - as we have jewish friends among
us
> in DCML for whom this most probably is a *very serious* question.
>
No. But I used Izrael simply as an example. You could might as well replace
the world "Izrael" in my last message with... say, "Sweden", "Scotland" or
"Nigeria". I used Izrael ONLY because I knew that they had a national
anniversary some years ago. So when you start listing reasons NOT to write
such a story about Izrael, I slowly realize that I have triggered a reaction
I didn't want to trigger. Yes, what you say is VERY serious, but as it had
NO connection to what I _tried_ to write about, it really sounded like
blah-blah to me - besides, I wasn't in the mood for quoting your entire
paragraph, and as I try varying my language a little I thought a "..."
sounded too... well, boring.
No, it was NOT my intention to show opinions about an Israeli-Palestine
conflict on a Disney Comics mailing list. Sorry, I see now that it could be
interpreted that way. Please forgive me that...
Olaf the Blue
> about the Israeli-Palestine conflict, but I don't think this is a smart
way
> to show it (*if* this "blah blah..." statement by any chanse was meant as
a
> comment against my comment about this) - as we have jewish friends among
us
> in DCML for whom this most probably is a *very serious* question.
>
No. But I used Izrael simply as an example. You could might as well replace
the world "Izrael" in my last message with... say, "Sweden", "Scotland" or
"Nigeria". I used Izrael ONLY because I knew that they had a national
anniversary some years ago. So when you start listing reasons NOT to write
such a story about Izrael, I slowly realize that I have triggered a reaction
I didn't want to trigger. Yes, what you say is VERY serious, but as it had
NO connection to what I _tried_ to write about, it really sounded like
blah-blah to me - besides, I wasn't in the mood for quoting your entire
paragraph, and as I try varying my language a little I thought a "..."
sounded too... well, boring.
No, it was NOT my intention to show opinions about an Israeli-Palestine
conflict on a Disney Comics mailing list. Sorry, I see now that it could be
interpreted that way. Please forgive me that...
Olaf the Blue
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
17th of May
Message 333 -
2003-05-17 at 22:05:49
Olaf Solstrand <olaf at andebyonline.com> wrote:
As your reply to may posting is in English, not in our common mother tongue
Norwegian, and as you don't say that it was personal, I have to assume it
was meant for DCML!
>> Do anyone here know if Egmont have any plans
>> to have special story done for these 2005
>> Norwegian 100th year anniversaries - such as
>> a Don Rosa Lo$ part 10a (taking place in
>> Scandinavia in 1905)? If not - would you
>> consider writing a story for this occasion
>> - Olaf?
>
> You seem to forget a few things here...
>
> 1 - I'm a newbie. Newbies aren't allowed to
> write great stories.
This is for now, you may no longer be seen as a newbie in 2005...
> 2 - Disney stories take place in 2003.
> (OK, you may disagree, but that is what Byron
> Erickson has told me. Thus, the truth.) That
> means Scrooge was probably not alive in 1905.
> Yes, I _know_ Don Rosa just wrote a story that
> found place in 1906, but that is only because
> he's Don Rosa. We normal writers aren't allowed
> to do such things.
Who says that such a story *must* happen in 1905? You could let it happen in
2005 and let our Duckburgian friends go to Norway then for some reason. What
if the guidebook has a notion about a treasure hidden away somewhere along
the Norwegian/Swedish border in 1905 due to the threat of war?
> 3 - OK, this is a great Norwegian event - but I
> don't see why it should be of interest for the
> rest of the world.
Maybe not, *but* it could be written to be of great interest for the rest of
Scandinavia.
> It would just turn into a very internal story
> that Norwegians would appreciate and everybody
> else would scratch their heads to. Wouldn't one
> also in such a story have to picture Swedes as
> bad guys?
Not necessarily. I bet a good writer, as I know that you are, could easily
do a story without doing that. Besides who says it have to be published
everywhere? There are even some stories by Don Rosa which are published in
Norway and not in Sweden.
> How would the Swedish readers respond to that?
I guess our Swedish friends here can tell you more about that than I can.
What I do think is that our Danish friends would expect that Denmark and the
Danish would have a part in such a story also - since our King Haakon was
Danish.
> 4- What makes this event bigger than national
> anniversaries other places?
Disney comics are great here! Besides the Italians have during the years
produced an enormous amount of stories connected to their own history. And I
wouldn't be surprised if our French friends can tell us about a similar
story published in Picsou Magazine in 1989 to celebrate the 200th
anniversary for the French revolution.
> Example given: Five years ago, the state of
> Israel had its fiftieth anniversary. I saw no
> Disney Comics about that.
No wonder! Israel is a very controversial state. Anti-Israeli attitudes are
wide spread in Europe, especially among left-wings. And as a Norwegian you
will know that Norwegian media and most left wing politicians in Norway,
including the LO-boss, are pretty silent when Palestine suicide-bombers are
killing innocent Israeli civilians, while they are very quick to condemn it
whenever the Israelis strike back. I guess that the situation is the same in
the rest of Scandinavia and other places in Europe. And one more thing. Very
recently I read in a book ("Asterix Samlede Verk ? IX") that Ren? Goscinny
(being of Jewish descendense himself) refused to do an Asterix story going
on in Israel (even when he and Uderzo actually was invited by the Israelis
to do so) as long as he lived because he was afraid for the consequences.
After his death his friend Uderzo finally did such a story. So when Goscinny
feared the consequences if doing such a story there is no reason to wonder
why Disney/Egmont would keep away from that topic.
> Sorry, Sigvald, but the only thing that could
> make me consider writing such a story is Byron
> Erickson asking me to do it. Which I frankly
> doubt_ will happen, but that is not a
> discussion you should take with me.
Well, if he doesn't ask Don Rosa, I certainly hope that he will ask you to
do this.
Sigvald :-)
As your reply to may posting is in English, not in our common mother tongue
Norwegian, and as you don't say that it was personal, I have to assume it
was meant for DCML!
>> Do anyone here know if Egmont have any plans
>> to have special story done for these 2005
>> Norwegian 100th year anniversaries - such as
>> a Don Rosa Lo$ part 10a (taking place in
>> Scandinavia in 1905)? If not - would you
>> consider writing a story for this occasion
>> - Olaf?
>
> You seem to forget a few things here...
>
> 1 - I'm a newbie. Newbies aren't allowed to
> write great stories.
This is for now, you may no longer be seen as a newbie in 2005...
> 2 - Disney stories take place in 2003.
> (OK, you may disagree, but that is what Byron
> Erickson has told me. Thus, the truth.) That
> means Scrooge was probably not alive in 1905.
> Yes, I _know_ Don Rosa just wrote a story that
> found place in 1906, but that is only because
> he's Don Rosa. We normal writers aren't allowed
> to do such things.
Who says that such a story *must* happen in 1905? You could let it happen in
2005 and let our Duckburgian friends go to Norway then for some reason. What
if the guidebook has a notion about a treasure hidden away somewhere along
the Norwegian/Swedish border in 1905 due to the threat of war?
> 3 - OK, this is a great Norwegian event - but I
> don't see why it should be of interest for the
> rest of the world.
Maybe not, *but* it could be written to be of great interest for the rest of
Scandinavia.
> It would just turn into a very internal story
> that Norwegians would appreciate and everybody
> else would scratch their heads to. Wouldn't one
> also in such a story have to picture Swedes as
> bad guys?
Not necessarily. I bet a good writer, as I know that you are, could easily
do a story without doing that. Besides who says it have to be published
everywhere? There are even some stories by Don Rosa which are published in
Norway and not in Sweden.
> How would the Swedish readers respond to that?
I guess our Swedish friends here can tell you more about that than I can.
What I do think is that our Danish friends would expect that Denmark and the
Danish would have a part in such a story also - since our King Haakon was
Danish.
> 4- What makes this event bigger than national
> anniversaries other places?
Disney comics are great here! Besides the Italians have during the years
produced an enormous amount of stories connected to their own history. And I
wouldn't be surprised if our French friends can tell us about a similar
story published in Picsou Magazine in 1989 to celebrate the 200th
anniversary for the French revolution.
> Example given: Five years ago, the state of
> Israel had its fiftieth anniversary. I saw no
> Disney Comics about that.
No wonder! Israel is a very controversial state. Anti-Israeli attitudes are
wide spread in Europe, especially among left-wings. And as a Norwegian you
will know that Norwegian media and most left wing politicians in Norway,
including the LO-boss, are pretty silent when Palestine suicide-bombers are
killing innocent Israeli civilians, while they are very quick to condemn it
whenever the Israelis strike back. I guess that the situation is the same in
the rest of Scandinavia and other places in Europe. And one more thing. Very
recently I read in a book ("Asterix Samlede Verk ? IX") that Ren? Goscinny
(being of Jewish descendense himself) refused to do an Asterix story going
on in Israel (even when he and Uderzo actually was invited by the Israelis
to do so) as long as he lived because he was afraid for the consequences.
After his death his friend Uderzo finally did such a story. So when Goscinny
feared the consequences if doing such a story there is no reason to wonder
why Disney/Egmont would keep away from that topic.
> Sorry, Sigvald, but the only thing that could
> make me consider writing such a story is Byron
> Erickson asking me to do it. Which I frankly
> doubt_ will happen, but that is not a
> discussion you should take with me.
Well, if he doesn't ask Don Rosa, I certainly hope that he will ask you to
do this.
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Rumpus and Gideon
Message 334 -
2003-05-17 at 22:27:40
Hi all!
No wonder I was a bit confused some time ago. Obviously both Van Horn and
Scarpa have created their own "half-brother" of Scrooge. I guess it was
Gideon I read about in a "DD Pocket" or in a "Mammut bok" some time ago. It
was about a relative of Scrooge (a painterman) who once fleed Duckburg
because the Beagle Boys made him show them a hidden passage into Scrooges
Money Bin. When he returned he was hiding in Donald's house. A nice story,
and a nice character even though he doesn't fit into MY Duckburg-universe.
Besides he is not described properly in COA's or in Per Starback's character
sections.
I am not so familiar with Rumpus, but I do know that he doesn't fit into MY
Duckburg-universe either.
Sigvald :-)
No wonder I was a bit confused some time ago. Obviously both Van Horn and
Scarpa have created their own "half-brother" of Scrooge. I guess it was
Gideon I read about in a "DD Pocket" or in a "Mammut bok" some time ago. It
was about a relative of Scrooge (a painterman) who once fleed Duckburg
because the Beagle Boys made him show them a hidden passage into Scrooges
Money Bin. When he returned he was hiding in Donald's house. A nice story,
and a nice character even though he doesn't fit into MY Duckburg-universe.
Besides he is not described properly in COA's or in Per Starback's character
sections.
I am not so familiar with Rumpus, but I do know that he doesn't fit into MY
Duckburg-universe either.
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
17th of May
Message 335 -
2003-05-17 at 22:41:02
Olaf Solstrand <olaf at andebyonline.com> wrote:
>> No wonder! Israel is a very controversial
>> state. Anti-Israeli attitudes
>> are wide
>blah blah blah blah blah...
You are of course allowed to have your own oppinions, whatever they are,
about the Israeli-Palestine conflict, but I don't think this is a smart way
to show it (*if* this "blah blah..." statement by any chanse was meant as a
comment against my comment about this) - as we have jewish friends among us
in DCML for whom this most probably is a *very serious* question.
Sigvald :-)
>> No wonder! Israel is a very controversial
>> state. Anti-Israeli attitudes
>> are wide
>blah blah blah blah blah...
You are of course allowed to have your own oppinions, whatever they are,
about the Israeli-Palestine conflict, but I don't think this is a smart way
to show it (*if* this "blah blah..." statement by any chanse was meant as a
comment against my comment about this) - as we have jewish friends among us
in DCML for whom this most probably is a *very serious* question.
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
17th of May
Message 336 -
2003-05-17 at 22:43:34
Olaf Solstrand <olaf at andebyonline.com> wrote:
>> Well, if he doesn't ask Don Rosa, I certainly
>> hope that he will ask you to do this.
>
> I see no reason he should.
Having a Norwegian writer writing such a story would be a very good reason
to start with!
Sigvald :-)
>> Well, if he doesn't ask Don Rosa, I certainly
>> hope that he will ask you to do this.
>
> I see no reason he should.
Having a Norwegian writer writing such a story would be a very good reason
to start with!
Sigvald :-)
Mads Jensen
Danish weekly subscription ?
Message 337 -
2003-05-18 at 00:38:40
Hi
Has anyone Danish on the list noticed that it seems to be more expensive to
buy a subscription, than just to go buy it in the shop each week ?
A one year subscription costs 1075,- according www.andeby.dk
A magazine costs 18,50,-
This will be 52*18,5 = 962 dkr
Who want to pay more for a subscription, usually the calculation should (and
have) the other way around... I do know that the holiday specials are a
little more expensive, but hey 3,- extra for max 10 issues, still doesn't
make up for difference on 113,- ....
Best wishes,
Mads
--
Mads Jensen
http://www.ddfr.dk Dansk Donaldist-Forening
Has anyone Danish on the list noticed that it seems to be more expensive to
buy a subscription, than just to go buy it in the shop each week ?
A one year subscription costs 1075,- according www.andeby.dk
A magazine costs 18,50,-
This will be 52*18,5 = 962 dkr
Who want to pay more for a subscription, usually the calculation should (and
have) the other way around... I do know that the holiday specials are a
little more expensive, but hey 3,- extra for max 10 issues, still doesn't
make up for difference on 113,- ....
Best wishes,
Mads
--
Mads Jensen
http://www.ddfr.dk Dansk Donaldist-Forening
Lars Jensen
Disneyland-magazine
Message 338 -
2003-05-18 at 01:12:43
Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr. wrote:
> By the way - I am still waiting for any comments on this topic from
> our Danish friends. If the Magazine exixted in both Norway and Sweden
> I would expect that it did exist in Denmark too.
There were ads for a Danish "Disneyland" magazine in the weekly in the
early 1970s. Although I never saw the magazine anywhere, I assume it
came out at the time.
Lars
> By the way - I am still waiting for any comments on this topic from
> our Danish friends. If the Magazine exixted in both Norway and Sweden
> I would expect that it did exist in Denmark too.
There were ads for a Danish "Disneyland" magazine in the weekly in the
early 1970s. Although I never saw the magazine anywhere, I assume it
came out at the time.
Lars
Lars Jensen
17th of May
Message 339 -
2003-05-18 at 01:29:22
Olaf Solstrand wrote:
> I'm a newbie. Newbies aren't allowed to write great stories.
Well, you *are*. But you're probably not allowed to write *important*
stories.
> OK, this is a great Norwegian event - but I don't see why it should be
> of interest for the rest of the world. It would just turn into a very
> internal story that Norwegians would appreciate and everybody else
> would scratch their heads to.
Exactly. Couldn't agree more. No offense to Norwegians, but the rest of
the world don't care that much about Norway's independence. Sorry. I
might as well suggest Don Rosa doing a story celebrating the 50th
anniversary of the current version of the Danish constitution. Would
anybody (except Danes, obviously) care one iota about this subject?! If
not, why do a story about it?
I have a much better idea: Why not ask Don Rosa to come up with a story
of his own, rather than force him to construct a story around a (to most
people, uninteresting) real world anniversary?
Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr. wrote:
> who says it have to be published everywhere?
Egmont would be crazy if they asked their biggest name to create a story
with this limited an appeal. And they ain't crazy.
> There are even some stories by Don Rosa which are published in Norway
> and not in Sweden.
Egmont had Don Rosa create stories that were only intended for the
Norwegian market? Which ones? Maybe we can get those stories printed in
Denmark, somehow.
> Israel is a very controversial state. Anti-Israeli attitudes are wide
> spread in Europe, especially among left-wings. And as a Norwegian you
> will know that Norwegian media and most left wing politicians in
> Norway, including the LO-boss, are pretty silent when Palestine
> suicide-bombers are killing innocent Israeli civilians, while they are
> very quick to condemn it whenever the Israelis strike back. I guess
> that the situation is the same in the rest of Scandinavia and other
> places in Europe. [...] So when Goscinny feared the consequences if
> doing such a story there is no reason to wonder why Disney/Egmont
> would keep away from that topic.
Sigvald, I hear from people who have met you that you are a very nice
guy. Easy to get along with, good company. So please don't take this as
a personal attack:
Your presentation of the European left wing's views on Israel and
Palestine is in my opinion extremely unbalanced and colored by what I
suspect may be your own prejudices. Based on the above and your earlier
comments about children being "dipshits" if they wear modern clothes,
I'm guessing you're an extreme right-winger a la Rupert Murdock or
Silvio Berlusconi (or Fremskrittspartiet in Norway). Which means that
there is probably no way a constructive discussion can come from this.
Also, it's off-topic. Please keep this kind of stuff off the list.
And do you honestly believe Egmont didn't make a story about Israel's
50th birthday because they feared the backlash?! *My* guess is they
didn't make a story because they knew their readers were uninterested in
that subject.
And once more: Let's stop this discussion here. I will.
>> Sorry, Sigvald, but the only thing that could
>> make me consider writing such a story is Byron
>> Erickson asking me to do it. Which I frankly
>> doubt_ will happen, but that is not a
>> discussion you should take with me.
>
> Well, if he doesn't ask Don Rosa, I certainly hope that he will ask
> you to do this.
God, I hope not. My "50th anniversary of the current version of the
Danish constitution" idea sounds better all the time.
Lars
> I'm a newbie. Newbies aren't allowed to write great stories.
Well, you *are*. But you're probably not allowed to write *important*
stories.
> OK, this is a great Norwegian event - but I don't see why it should be
> of interest for the rest of the world. It would just turn into a very
> internal story that Norwegians would appreciate and everybody else
> would scratch their heads to.
Exactly. Couldn't agree more. No offense to Norwegians, but the rest of
the world don't care that much about Norway's independence. Sorry. I
might as well suggest Don Rosa doing a story celebrating the 50th
anniversary of the current version of the Danish constitution. Would
anybody (except Danes, obviously) care one iota about this subject?! If
not, why do a story about it?
I have a much better idea: Why not ask Don Rosa to come up with a story
of his own, rather than force him to construct a story around a (to most
people, uninteresting) real world anniversary?
Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr. wrote:
> who says it have to be published everywhere?
Egmont would be crazy if they asked their biggest name to create a story
with this limited an appeal. And they ain't crazy.
> There are even some stories by Don Rosa which are published in Norway
> and not in Sweden.
Egmont had Don Rosa create stories that were only intended for the
Norwegian market? Which ones? Maybe we can get those stories printed in
Denmark, somehow.
> Israel is a very controversial state. Anti-Israeli attitudes are wide
> spread in Europe, especially among left-wings. And as a Norwegian you
> will know that Norwegian media and most left wing politicians in
> Norway, including the LO-boss, are pretty silent when Palestine
> suicide-bombers are killing innocent Israeli civilians, while they are
> very quick to condemn it whenever the Israelis strike back. I guess
> that the situation is the same in the rest of Scandinavia and other
> places in Europe. [...] So when Goscinny feared the consequences if
> doing such a story there is no reason to wonder why Disney/Egmont
> would keep away from that topic.
Sigvald, I hear from people who have met you that you are a very nice
guy. Easy to get along with, good company. So please don't take this as
a personal attack:
Your presentation of the European left wing's views on Israel and
Palestine is in my opinion extremely unbalanced and colored by what I
suspect may be your own prejudices. Based on the above and your earlier
comments about children being "dipshits" if they wear modern clothes,
I'm guessing you're an extreme right-winger a la Rupert Murdock or
Silvio Berlusconi (or Fremskrittspartiet in Norway). Which means that
there is probably no way a constructive discussion can come from this.
Also, it's off-topic. Please keep this kind of stuff off the list.
And do you honestly believe Egmont didn't make a story about Israel's
50th birthday because they feared the backlash?! *My* guess is they
didn't make a story because they knew their readers were uninterested in
that subject.
And once more: Let's stop this discussion here. I will.
>> Sorry, Sigvald, but the only thing that could
>> make me consider writing such a story is Byron
>> Erickson asking me to do it. Which I frankly
>> doubt_ will happen, but that is not a
>> discussion you should take with me.
>
> Well, if he doesn't ask Don Rosa, I certainly hope that he will ask
> you to do this.
God, I hope not. My "50th anniversary of the current version of the
Danish constitution" idea sounds better all the time.
Lars
Olaf Solstrand
17th of May (stories not published in Sweden)
Message 340 -
2003-05-18 at 01:50:45
Lars:
> > I'm a newbie. Newbies aren't allowed to write great stories.
>
> Well, you *are*. But you're probably not allowed to write *important*
> stories.
Sorry, that is what I meant.
> Egmont had Don Rosa create stories that were only intended for the
> Norwegian market? Which ones? Maybe we can get those stories printed in
> Denmark, somehow.
I don't think Sigvald talks about stories made specially for Norway - but
simply the fact that there exists stories published in one country, and not
in another.
To sum it up - Don Rosa's stories, that is:
AR 106 - Cash Flow - was published in Norway in 1992, and is still not
published in Sweden and Denmark.
AR 145 - His Majesty McDuck - was published in Norway and Denmark in 1991,
and is still not published in Sweden.
H 87173 - Leaky Luck - was published in Norway and Denmark in 2001, and is
still not published in Sweden.
H 89174 - The Pied Piper of Duckburg - was published in Norway in 1993, and
is still not published in Sweden or Denmark.
D 93574 - The Duck who never was - was published in Norway and Denmark in
1994, and is still not published in Sweden.
D 94144 - The Lost Charts of Columbus - was published in Norway and Denmark
in 1995, and is still not published in Sweden.
(source: Sigvald's homepages, http://duckman.pettho.com/ )
No, none of these stories were written specially for Norway...
But, I've been told that I can be quite a spammer, so I'll try keeping my
fingers shut for some time :-)
_____________________
Olaf the Blue
> > I'm a newbie. Newbies aren't allowed to write great stories.
>
> Well, you *are*. But you're probably not allowed to write *important*
> stories.
Sorry, that is what I meant.
> Egmont had Don Rosa create stories that were only intended for the
> Norwegian market? Which ones? Maybe we can get those stories printed in
> Denmark, somehow.
I don't think Sigvald talks about stories made specially for Norway - but
simply the fact that there exists stories published in one country, and not
in another.
To sum it up - Don Rosa's stories, that is:
AR 106 - Cash Flow - was published in Norway in 1992, and is still not
published in Sweden and Denmark.
AR 145 - His Majesty McDuck - was published in Norway and Denmark in 1991,
and is still not published in Sweden.
H 87173 - Leaky Luck - was published in Norway and Denmark in 2001, and is
still not published in Sweden.
H 89174 - The Pied Piper of Duckburg - was published in Norway in 1993, and
is still not published in Sweden or Denmark.
D 93574 - The Duck who never was - was published in Norway and Denmark in
1994, and is still not published in Sweden.
D 94144 - The Lost Charts of Columbus - was published in Norway and Denmark
in 1995, and is still not published in Sweden.
(source: Sigvald's homepages, http://duckman.pettho.com/ )
No, none of these stories were written specially for Norway...
But, I've been told that I can be quite a spammer, so I'll try keeping my
fingers shut for some time :-)
_____________________
Olaf the Blue
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
17th of May
Message 341 -
2003-05-18 at 03:15:01
Lars Jensen <lpj at forfatter.dk> wrote:
>> There are even some stories by Don Rosa which
>> are published in Norway and not in Sweden.
>
> Egmont had Don Rosa create stories that were
> only intended for the Norwegian market? Which
> ones? Maybe we can get those stories printed
> in Denmark, somehow.
What I meant is that the Swedes have choosen not to publish some of his
stories like "His Majesty McDuck", "Cash Flow", "The Lost Charts of
Columbus" and "The Duck who Never was". And at least "Cash Flow" has not
been printed in Denmark as well. My point was that even the Scandinavian
publications are noe identical.
>> Sigvald, I hear from people who have met you
>> that you are a very nice guy. Easy to get
>> along with, good company. So please don't
>> take this as a personal attack:
No, I don't.
> Your presentation of the European left wing's
> views on Israel and Palestine is in my opinion
> extremely unbalanced and colored by what I
> suspect may be your own prejudices.
Unbalanced? I am afraid not. I can tell you that central leftwingers and
even social democrats in Norway demanded boycot of Israeli products in the
days following the fightings in Jenin.
> Based on the above and your earlier comments
> about children being "dipshits" if they wear
> modern clothes, I'm guessing you're an extreme
> right-winger...
But here is when YOUR comment becomes IMO extremely unbalanced and perhaps
colored by what
I suspect may be YOUR own prejudices. Why else would you use he word
"extreme"? I din't use that word in my statement? The term "extreme
rightwinger" is often used by Norwegian left-wingers as a label they put on
Neo-Nazis - and *none* of those persons/groups mentioned by you fits into
that pot.
>> And once more: Let's stop this discussion
>> here. I will.
I agree, this topic belongs in other fora.
Sigvald :-)
>> There are even some stories by Don Rosa which
>> are published in Norway and not in Sweden.
>
> Egmont had Don Rosa create stories that were
> only intended for the Norwegian market? Which
> ones? Maybe we can get those stories printed
> in Denmark, somehow.
What I meant is that the Swedes have choosen not to publish some of his
stories like "His Majesty McDuck", "Cash Flow", "The Lost Charts of
Columbus" and "The Duck who Never was". And at least "Cash Flow" has not
been printed in Denmark as well. My point was that even the Scandinavian
publications are noe identical.
>> Sigvald, I hear from people who have met you
>> that you are a very nice guy. Easy to get
>> along with, good company. So please don't
>> take this as a personal attack:
No, I don't.
> Your presentation of the European left wing's
> views on Israel and Palestine is in my opinion
> extremely unbalanced and colored by what I
> suspect may be your own prejudices.
Unbalanced? I am afraid not. I can tell you that central leftwingers and
even social democrats in Norway demanded boycot of Israeli products in the
days following the fightings in Jenin.
> Based on the above and your earlier comments
> about children being "dipshits" if they wear
> modern clothes, I'm guessing you're an extreme
> right-winger...
But here is when YOUR comment becomes IMO extremely unbalanced and perhaps
colored by what
I suspect may be YOUR own prejudices. Why else would you use he word
"extreme"? I din't use that word in my statement? The term "extreme
rightwinger" is often used by Norwegian left-wingers as a label they put on
Neo-Nazis - and *none* of those persons/groups mentioned by you fits into
that pot.
>> And once more: Let's stop this discussion
>> here. I will.
I agree, this topic belongs in other fora.
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Norway and Kalevala
Message 342 -
2003-05-18 at 05:34:22
Lars Jensen <lpj at forfatter.dk> skrev:
> Exactly. Couldn't agree more. No offense to
> Norwegians, but the rest of the world don't
> care that much about Norway's independence...
You seem to forget that Don Rosa did a great story about the Finnish
Kalevala epic. A few years ago some people probably said "...the rest of the
world don't care that much about Finland's national epic..."
Sigvald :-)
> Exactly. Couldn't agree more. No offense to
> Norwegians, but the rest of the world don't
> care that much about Norway's independence...
You seem to forget that Don Rosa did a great story about the Finnish
Kalevala epic. A few years ago some people probably said "...the rest of the
world don't care that much about Finland's national epic..."
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
17th of May
Message 343 -
2003-05-18 at 16:44:13
fra: Erik Arnesen <erikarnesen at hotmail.com> wrote:
As your reply to may posting is in English, not in our common mother tongue
Norwegian, and as you don't say that it was personal, I have to assume it
was meant for DCML!
>> "Later in 1905 the Danish prince Carl became
>> king Haakon VII of Norway."
>
> Norway became independent in 1905, but we
> didn't get our own king before June 1906.
Wrong!
The coronation was held on June 22nd 1906, but Haakon VII was elected king
by the parliament (Stortinget) on November 18th 1905 (after a referendum
held in November 12-13 1905) and the royal family arrived Christiania
(=Oslo) on November 25th the same year.
Sigvald :-)
As your reply to may posting is in English, not in our common mother tongue
Norwegian, and as you don't say that it was personal, I have to assume it
was meant for DCML!
>> "Later in 1905 the Danish prince Carl became
>> king Haakon VII of Norway."
>
> Norway became independent in 1905, but we
> didn't get our own king before June 1906.
Wrong!
The coronation was held on June 22nd 1906, but Haakon VII was elected king
by the parliament (Stortinget) on November 18th 1905 (after a referendum
held in November 12-13 1905) and the royal family arrived Christiania
(=Oslo) on November 25th the same year.
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
June 2005
Message 344 -
2003-05-18 at 16:50:22
Lars Jensen <lpj at forfatter.dk> wrote:
> Exactly. Couldn't agree more. No offense to
> Norwegians, but the rest of the world don't
> care that much about Norway's independence.
In case you haven't noticed there are several events that could be tied
together in such a story:
June 5th - Denmark's national day
June 6th - Svenske flaggans dag = Sweden's national day
June 7th - Norway's independence day
June 9th - Donald's birthday (shown in many stories like "The Duck who Never
Was".
Sigvald :-)
> Exactly. Couldn't agree more. No offense to
> Norwegians, but the rest of the world don't
> care that much about Norway's independence.
In case you haven't noticed there are several events that could be tied
together in such a story:
June 5th - Denmark's national day
June 6th - Svenske flaggans dag = Sweden's national day
June 7th - Norway's independence day
June 9th - Donald's birthday (shown in many stories like "The Duck who Never
Was".
Sigvald :-)
Erik Arnesen
17th of May
Message 345 -
2003-05-18 at 17:09:14
Ok, I was wrong then, but I meant that the coronation was in 2006, and that was when he legally became Norway's king. The election was just an election...
June 22, 2006 will anyway be a great day of celebration here in Norway
>From: "Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr."
>Reply-To: "Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr."
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: SV: Re: 17th of May
>Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 14:44:13 +0100
>
>fra: Erik Arnesen wrote:
>
>As your reply to may posting is in English, not in our common mother tongue
>Norwegian, and as you don't say that it was personal, I have to assume it
>was meant for DCML!
>
> >> "Later in 1905 the Danish prince Carl became
> >> king Haakon VII of Norway."
> >
> > Norway became independent in 1905, but we
> > didn't get our own king before June 1906.
>
>Wrong!
>The coronation was held on June 22nd 1906, but Haakon VII was elected king
>by the parliament (Stortinget) on November 18th 1905 (after a referendum
>held in November 12-13 1905) and the royal family arrived Christiania
>(=Oslo) on November 25th the same year.
>
>Sigvald :-)
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June 22, 2006 will anyway be a great day of celebration here in Norway
>From: "Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr."
>Reply-To: "Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr."
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: SV: Re: 17th of May
>Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 14:44:13 +0100
>
>fra: Erik Arnesen wrote:
>
>As your reply to may posting is in English, not in our common mother tongue
>Norwegian, and as you don't say that it was personal, I have to assume it
>was meant for DCML!
>
> >> "Later in 1905 the Danish prince Carl became
> >> king Haakon VII of Norway."
> >
> > Norway became independent in 1905, but we
> > didn't get our own king before June 1906.
>
>Wrong!
>The coronation was held on June 22nd 1906, but Haakon VII was elected king
>by the parliament (Stortinget) on November 18th 1905 (after a referendum
>held in November 12-13 1905) and the royal family arrived Christiania
>(=Oslo) on November 25th the same year.
>
>Sigvald :-)
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