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>In case you haven't noticed there are several events that could be tied
>together in such a story:
>
>June 5th - Denmark's national day
>
>June 6th - Svenske flaggans dag = Sweden's national day
>
>June 7th - Norway's independence day
>
>June 9th - Donald's birthday (shown in many stories like "The Duck who
>Never
>Was".

Well, there's really good idea! Chance to make Scandinavian tour with ducks.
Four day story starting from Denmark. Why not.... Egmont could actually do
this.

Timo

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Sigvald speculated (as usual):

> Hmmm "Wejp" sounds Dutch.

Not at all!

> By the way to correct Dutch way to write Kruse seems to be "Cruys".

Nope. Cruys is even more unusual than Kruse.
(And it's pronounced differently.)

I know 2 people with the name Kruse, none named Cruys.

There is of course the famous Dutch comic creator Jan Kruis.
But he's neither connected to Disney comics nor to Norway.

("cruys" is an old-fashioned spelling of "kruis" (cross); another one
is "cruise", a word the English took over to indicate "crossing"
the sea.)

--Harry.

Matteo:

> The new fantasy saga of Byron Erickson/Giorgio Cavazzano
> "Dragon Lords"
> It's the first publication of that story in Italy, but also
> -I suppose- in the world.

Nope. It is currently being published in Germany, in Donald Duck Sonderheft.
They started with part 1 a few months ago.

Zio Paperone may have *wanted* to have the world premiere, but the story
was produced by Egmont, so it's quite logical to have an Egmont country
publish the story first...

--Harry.

Some discussion has ensued here at to why subscriptions cost more that
buying at the newsstand. As this is about subscriptions to Danish
publications, I wouldn't know the particulars, but there is this: a
copy of a comic costs more to mail, even by the most cost-effective
means, than to place on the newsstand.

Comics publishers in the U.S. usually - and I mean usually, not always
- try to keep subscriptions in line, in terms of cost to the consumer,
with retail availability. The higher cost to mail is somewhat offset by
the fact that the copies going out have already been paid for, and
won't be returned (not in any appreciable amount). And there are other
factors, including simply wanting to build a large subscriber base,
always an asset in setting advertising rates - provided the publisher
is interested in either. (Not all U.S. publishers are, and even the
biggies have severely curtailed or outright dropped subscriptions
services at various times.)

It's a complicated thing, subscriptions, probably one of the most
complicated in publishing. I do hope, though, to have some definite
info to post here on Gemstone's setup, which has been faced with a few
extra-ordinary complications.

Gary

Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr. wrote:

> In case you haven't noticed there are several events that could be
> tied together in such a story:
>
> June 5th - Denmark's national day
>
> June 6th - Svenske flaggans dag = Sweden's national day
>
> June 7th - Norway's independence day
>
> June 9th - Donald's birthday (shown in many stories like "The Duck who
> Never Was".

Let's get back to your initial suggestion, Sigvald: That Don Rosa make a
story devoted to the celebration of May 17. Egmont publishes its stories
all over the world. Why would they produce a story that most of their
readers would be totally uninterested in? Would a Chinese or a Bulgarian
reader be interested in a Norwegian-only event?

Another thing that bothers me is this: Essentially you're suggesting
that the publishers tell Don Rosa to do a specific story, and make it a
chapter of Lo$, because it would please a certain target group (in this
case, Norwegians). As we all know, Carl Barks was on a few occasions
told by Western Publishing to do specific stories a certain way ("Trick
or Treat", "Back to the Klondike"), and I have seen more than a few
Barks-fans rant against the utter gall of that publisher. "How *dare*
Western tell Barks what to do?!" they say. Well, your suggestion - that
Egmont should tell Don Rosa to devote a chapter of his defining series
to being nothing more than a promo for Norway - is basically the same
thing.

Returning to the "Will readers be interested" theme, I'll quote Dan
Rosenberg:

> If an Lo$ chapter were to be written involving a young Scrooge
> visiting Norway during one of their national holiday celebrations, it
> may work, but to write a story based entirely on this event may sound
> rather boring to the rest of us. This may be a story more
> appropriately done by a Norwegian writer and artist. Besides, no one
> has bothered to ask Don if he would be willing to create such a story.
> And what of all the other countries in the world who have national
> holidays? Won' they feel left out? If Don were to be fair he'd spend
> the rest of his careeer trying to appeal to every reader's sense of
> nationality. I think he might feel he has better things to do.

I don't see Dan clamoring for my "50th anniversary of the current
version of the Danish constitution" idea to become reality, either. In
my opinion, basing stories entirely on celebrating relatively unknown
local events simply isn't interesting enough to a sufficiently large
group of people.

Sigvald, you also wrote:

> You seem to forget that Don Rosa did a great story about the Finnish
> Kalevala epic. A few years ago some people probably said "...the rest
> of the world don't care that much about Finland's national epic..."

But that's different. The Italians have made lots of adaptations of
books such as "Les Miserables", featuring Ducks in the lead roles.
Disney Animation has adapted several Hans Christian Andersen stories,
such as "The Little Mermaid". Most people can relate to those stories
easily. Your original suggestion, create a story whose reason for
existing is to celebrate something most people can't relate to, is in my
opinion flawed. The idea of having the Ducks interact with a specific,
but relatable, element - as Don did with the Kalevala story - is
perfectly OK with me. I did that myself recently, as seen in Donald
Pocket 268 where I tied the Ducks into a relatable and easily understood
German folktale.

And Timo Ronkainen's idea - to have the Ducks tour the whole of
Scandinavia - is perfectly fine, too, in my opinion. Already the target
readership has been expanded from Norway-only to the whole of
Scandinavia - although the independence day business still may be
uninteresting to non-Scandinavian readers. Why not just do an ordinary
event-free non-Lo$ story about Donald & co having an adventure in
Scandinavia?

Lars

I don't contribute much to DCML.
But I enjoy it every day.
I would just like to publicly thank Barry (RosaBarksFan at aol.com)
for getting me 2 copies (one for me and one for a friend) of Maharajah
Donald,
since I had a broken foot and was unable to get out for
free Comic Book Day.
He made his offer on DCML which shows his unselfish interest
in our hobby, and how much he was
looking out for others who also missed the opportunity.
I think they did a great job on it,
and hear it's very hard to get now.
Thanks again,
Jeff

Original Message from DCML Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5

> Overall, I'd say this book is worth the $5 Gemstone is requesting to
receive
> a copy directly. After all, I'm sure it will be hard to find...

Like I said before, You can get a free copy from me for the cost of
shipping.
I will also send extra copies to groups.
Email me directly:
UNDBKB at aol.com
or
ROSABARKSFAN at aol.com

Barry.

Hi

Just wanted to add in on my previous mail. A couple of years, there was set
an extra charge for having your magazines standing at the newsstand, this is
also why some magazines only come in subscription, as this fee is quite a
lot of money.

Therefore, the editors should be pleased with the subscripters as they are
not causing them to pay this fee!

I am wondering about the problem with the extra costs for getting a
subcription since it was, when I had the magazine on subscription, cheaper
to have the subscription than to go buying it in the newsstand!

Best wishes,
Mads
--
Mads Jensen
http://www.ddfr.dk Dansk Donaldist-Forening