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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com wrote:

>> An how's that look? A modern "dipshit"-look
>> like HD&L in German covers?
>
> I know I speak for others here when I ask that
> you refrain from the use of vulgar/curse/slang
> words.

Allright! If that's such a big problem!

But I am sure I also speak for other Scandinavians here when I ask all here
with English as their mothertongue to remember that English is a language
with a huge vocabulary. This means that we scandinavians can't know
absulutely every English word. And parts of our vocabulary is naturally
picked up from Hollywood films - that's why I and other Scandinavians my
have what you may see as a somewhat "offensive" style when using English.

Sigvald
Fabio Blanco
> others too). Latest issue of AA had reviews of comics like Blueberry and
> some others that are not for small children.
>
> Timo

Looks like A.A. meetings are really funny there!!! :-)

Fabio

bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Someone U Know
Why don rosa at his comics when the duck family is on tressure hunt they
mostly find The Secret Doors or passges By Donald Falling or Hitting Walls
??????

Just a question

we all know That don rosa can make a very nice scene of that but he Prefers
to Hit Poor Donald

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Someone U Know
Deep Analysis

Ok guys lets do some deep analysis of Don Rosa sorties!
I know that have been done for long Time But lets do it ,, Again as I think
that there is more Hidden details and more ??? marks around some points !

So I?m suggesting having every week a comics for discussion? by Uploading it
some where on IRC or one of the great Sites ,, then Reading it then go on
with Questions and Even if it is possible to Publish the Related stories as
we all know most Don Rosa work is Related .
So we can gain a real true analysis and I think Don Rosa won?t mind Helping
us ,, in answering Questions about the stories .
May be a summary for the discussion can be made and added to INDUCKS after
Rosa?s Approval

What u think should we give it a try ?

PS : No need To quake About it with silly discussions

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Daniel Van Eijmeren
At "http://www.cbarks.dk/THECONCOCTIONS.htm" I saw that there are
strange mixed-up animals shown in the background of one panel in
Barks' "How Green Was My Lettuce" (US 51). It's the first panel
in which Donald an Scrooge are disguised as lettuce farmers. I've
never seen that detail before, myself.

THIS is what makes internet so interesting for me.
Sharing knowledge, experience and (mixed) opinions.
Please stop ruining this list with your ego's.

--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Quess the Barks stories from which these quotes have been taken.

- - -

"Glory be! Then it's okay to whale the blazes out of 'em -
if I do it with a SMILE!"

- - -

"Well, back into the barrel with the FLEAS!"

- - -

"Ouch! More automation!"
(Hint: "Handle with care")

- - -

"NIK! NIK! NIK!"

- - -

--- Dani?l
Olivier
Hi everyone!

Someone U Know / inverted_logic@ :

>>> Ok guys lets do some deep analysis of Don Rosa sorties!
>>> I know that have been done for long Time But lets do it ,, Again as I think
>>> that there is more Hidden details and more "?" marks around some points !

-- or other stories, for that matter.
I do have a little something I wrote on "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff"-- an e-mail to Mr Rosa,
actually, which I still haven't developed, unfortunately.

>>> So I'm suggesting having every week a comics for discussion?

Every week? That's a bit short when you already hardly have time to read through the list.

>>> What u think should we give it a try ?

Such discussions are most welcome-- actually, I think that's what the DCML is supposed to be about.
Two points, though:
- limiting them in time (especially a week) is a bit of a constraint
- could you please identify yourself ? Just the first name will do-- it's os much easier & nicer
than calling you "Someone U Know" / "Inverted Logic"

>>>>Why don rosa at his comics when the duck family is on tressure hunt they
>>>mostly find The Secret Doors or passges By Donald Falling or Hitting Walls ??????

Interesting point-- which involves a bit of research in the stories.
Obviously, slapstick humor. But then, as you point out, why so often (is it that systematic?)?

All the best,

Olivier
Someone U Know
PLz Don'rt Only reply me but Reply To DCML so every one Can read
My name is Moahmed (inverted Logic ) Form Egypt
Anysuggestions are welcomed We need the all the support to start this

>From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
>Reply-To: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
>To: "Someone U Know" <inverted_logic at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Deep Analysis
>Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 13:46:56 +0200
>
>Hi !
>
> >>> Ok guys lets do some deep analysis of Don Rosa sorties!
> >>> I know that have been done for long Time But lets do it ,, Again as I
>think
> >>> that there is more Hidden details and more "?" marks around some
>points !
>
>-- or other stories, for that matter.
>I do have a little something I wrote on "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff"--
>an e-mail to Mr Rosa,
>actually, which I still haven't developed, unfortunately.
>
>
> >>> So I'm suggesting having every week a comics for discussion?
>
>Every week? That's a bit short when you already hardly have time to read
>through the list.
>
>
> >>> What u think should we give it a try ?
>
>Such discussions are most welcome-- actually, I think that's what the DCML
>is supposed to be about.
>Two points, though:
>- limiting them in time (especially a week) is a bit of a constraint
>- could you please identify yourself ? Just the first name will do-- it's
>os much easier & nicer
>than calling you "Someone U Know" / "Inverted Logic"
>
>
>
> >>>>Why don rosa at his comics when the duck family is on tressure hunt
>they
> >>>mostly find The Secret Doors or passges By Donald Falling or Hitting
>Walls ??????
>
>Interesting point-- which involves a bit of research in the stories.
>Obviously, slapstick humor. But then, as you point out, why so often (is it
>that systematic?)?
>
>
>All the best,
>
>
>Olivier
>
>

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L. Schulte
Concerning foreigners not knowing exactly how obscene a word might be,
especially given the unfortunate use of offensive language in Hollywood
movies: simply ask yourself, would this word appear in a Disney comic? If
it could not, then don't use it here on the forum. Scatology of any kind
will be offensive, despite the idiots in Hollywood and their attempts at
making the lowest class behavior mainstream. I realize the influence of
American movies can seem overwhelming, but...they are just movies. They
are not reality! Most Americans are not using filthy words in every other
sentence, unless maybe they are frustrated members of the
Lumpenproletariat, (the bottom 2%) and even then, there is really no excuse
for it. Obscenity is a sign of a limited vocabulary, of a limited mind.
Kristian Pedersen
Here's a question to ponder:

Of all the enormously improbable events that have
befallen Gladstone Gander over the years, which is the
most unlikely, statistically speaking?

I once tried writing a spoof paper, academic-style, on
the subject but didn't manage to, mainly because most
of the probabilities involved were too difficult to
compute! I shan't try to give any figures here, but
some of the probabilities would of course be
relatively easy to assess - for instance whenever
Gladstone participates in a lottery, we can get a good
estimate of the number of tickets sold (based on
reasonable assumptions about the population of
Duckburg, the size of the containers holding the lots
and so on). Other probabilities are difficult, but
perhaps not impossible, to estimate:

- Having a whale strand at the exact right moment in
"Luck of the North".
- Finding, in close succession, a coin, a bank note, a
ring, the Mona Lisa, and a treasure chest on the
sidewalk (forgot the name of this Rosa story).
- Having a million dollars dumped in his hat(by the
typhoon that spread Scrooge's money all over the
country, in the classic Barks 10-pager).

And some are well-nigh invisible:

- Finding a hollow meteor filled with precious stones,
that have obviously been processed! (in another
classic Barks 10-pager).

Being familiar with the obscenely huge numbers that
arise in the branch of mathematics known as
combinatorics, I would venture the guess that the most
unbelievably lucky event happens to Gladstone in
Barks' story about Hondorica: As I recall, Donald
tears up a treasure map in twenty-odd pieces and
throws it into the river. Whereupon the pieces
rearrange themselves into a readable map a couple of
hundred yards further down the river, where Gladstone
is fishing.

Any other opinions on this very silly matter? :)

Kristian

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Olaf Solstrand
> - Finding, in close succession, a coin, a bank note, a
> ring, the Mona Lisa, and a treasure chest on the
> sidewalk (forgot the name of this Rosa story).

"The Duck who never was". Don't remember the story code right now, and I'm
to lazy to check it up, but it was published in Donald Duck & Co 23-1994.
Timo Ronkainen
>Looks like A.A. meetings are really funny there!!! :-)

Yeah! Well, we Finns actually call A.A. Aku Ankka -club! :-)

Timo

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Chuck Munson
Hi Everyone,

On the English language:

I've stayed out of any recent unpleasantness up until
now. But the exchange between Rodney and Sigvald did
bring up an interesting point regarding the influence
of pop culture on how the English language (American,
British, Australian, etc. versions) is viewed *and*
learned abroad. While I do believe that context can
definitely be a major indicator of what is and is not
acceptable, what is acceptable has been on an
incredibly fluid sliding scale, especially where
movies and tv are concerned. It may be less so where
the general public is concerned. The point is, that
without some guidance, it could be very easy for
someone learning the language to accept some of what
can be called here in the US "potty-mouth" without the
knowledge that not only is it slang, but it is also
considered terms and phrases not proper for polite and
learned conversation and discourse. Personally, I
know there have been certain messages on the DCML I
would judiciously censor for my daughter once she
learns how to read (and love Disney comics, of
course!). I'm sure that those of us who are native
English speakers could provide some guidance on this
matter. Thus ends the OT portion of this posting.

Daniel's Barks Quiz:

Isn't "Nik! Nik! Nik!" the sole verbiage of the
natives of the barren, rocky planet that Scrooge and
the boys land on in "Island in the Sky"?

Moahmed in Egypt:

Welcome! To my knowledge, we have precious few
participating members from outside the "major" Disney
comics countries. So any addition to the folks like
Arie in Indonesia, Mateusz and Maciek in Poland, etc.
is and should be highly valued. Any contributions to
the current (or past) situation of Disney comics in
Egypt would be most welcome.

Greetings to all as I go back to lurker mode,
Chuck Munson
Oak Hill, Virginia USA

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Anthvvuono
I've noticed Don Rosa hasn't written anything on this board in months. I was
just wondering if he was extremely busy, resting, or on tour.
Anthony
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Sigvald wrote in DCML Digest, Vol 3, Issue 59:
>But I am sure I also speak for other Scandinavians here when I ask all here
>with English as their mothertongue to remember that English is a language
>with a huge vocabulary. This means that we scandinavians can't know
>absulutely every English word. And parts of our vocabulary is naturally
>picked up from Hollywood films - that's why I and other Scandinavians my
>have what you may see as a somewhat "offensive" style when using English.

You clearly haven't learned a thing from the previous weeks of agonizing
and repetitive 'discussions' on this list. Please, do not... I repeat, DO
NOT express such certainty of something which you do not and can not know.

Unless you happen to be a spokesperson for someone else, who might then
be referred to by name, you are in no position to make your cause one of
all Norwegians, Scandinavians or whatever silent majority you are claiming
to be sharing your views.

And just to pre-empt your answer: in this context "(other) Scandinavians"
is not as specific as "some Scandinavians" or "all Scandinavians", but will
most likely be read as meaning "all - except for an insignificant few -
Scandinavians".

The rest of the message I'm not going to bother dignifying with a comment.
Its absurd excuse for logic speaks for itself, if it makes sense at all.

-- Ole
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