There as been some debate on dcml recently about the English language:
Is the language of pop music and Hollywood movies representative? And if
it is not: How does this affect the usage of English in other countries?
Opinions, examples and experiences can be discussed on
http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=88&t=88
Cord
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Cord Wiljes
Language Discussion
Message 631 -
2003-05-31 at 01:28:04
M. Mitchell Marmel
Offensive Language
Message 632 -
2003-05-31 at 04:03:02
At 10:36 AM -0400 5/30/03, L. Schulte wrote:
>Most Americans are not using filthy words in every other sentence, unless maybe they are frustrated members of the Lumpenproletariat, (the bottom 2%) and even then, there is really no excuse for it. Obscenity is a sign of a limited vocabulary, of a limited mind.
Dam... er, darned tootin'. :)
-MMM-
>Most Americans are not using filthy words in every other sentence, unless maybe they are frustrated members of the Lumpenproletariat, (the bottom 2%) and even then, there is really no excuse for it. Obscenity is a sign of a limited vocabulary, of a limited mind.
Dam... er, darned tootin'. :)
-MMM-
Linwood
Subscriptions (Gary Leach)
Message 633 -
2003-05-31 at 05:57:42
Anthony,
According to the ad in the Free Comic Book Day Donald Duck Adventures,
the address is Gemstone Publishing, 1966 Greenspring Drive, Timonium,
Maryland 21093, USA, Attention: Jamie David. WDC&S and U$ are $83.40
each for 12 issues.
You can try e-mailing Jamie David at djamie at gemstonepub.com for answers
to any other questions.
Linwood Kemp
According to the ad in the Free Comic Book Day Donald Duck Adventures,
the address is Gemstone Publishing, 1966 Greenspring Drive, Timonium,
Maryland 21093, USA, Attention: Jamie David. WDC&S and U$ are $83.40
each for 12 issues.
You can try e-mailing Jamie David at djamie at gemstonepub.com for answers
to any other questions.
Linwood Kemp
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
ORN keeps unseriuosity going on DCML
Message 634 -
2003-05-31 at 07:35:01
Ole Reichstein Nielsen <oleroc at tdcspace.dk> wrote:
> You clearly haven't learned a thing from the
> previous weeks of agonizing and repetitive
> 'discussions' on this list. Please, do not...
> I repeat, DO NOT express such certainty of
> something which you do not and can not know.
>
> Unless you happen to be a spokesperson for
> someone else, who might then be referred to by
> name, you are in no position to make your cause
> one of all Norwegians, Scandinavians or
> whatever silent majority you are claiming
> to be sharing your views.
You didn't get my point did you? So I'll let you have it in with a little
tea spoon:
This Rodney guy who addressed me in a IMO rather unpleasant posting wrote:
>> I know I speak for others here when I ask
>> that you refrain from the use of vulgar/curse/
>> slang-words.
Yes - he did write "I know I speak for others" - and thus did the same thing
that you now blame me for doing, even though someone just a few days before
came with a very clear statement "speak *only* for yourself". To show this
Rodney guy how unserious his offensive posting IMO thus looked I answered
him by using his own logic. Obviously you didn't get that point!
It seems that most people here (me included) are tired of these offensive
disputes going on here. To help stop it you and others can stop making one
law for Sigvald and one law for the rest, and also stop using my name in the
topic-line in offensive mails.
Sigvald
> You clearly haven't learned a thing from the
> previous weeks of agonizing and repetitive
> 'discussions' on this list. Please, do not...
> I repeat, DO NOT express such certainty of
> something which you do not and can not know.
>
> Unless you happen to be a spokesperson for
> someone else, who might then be referred to by
> name, you are in no position to make your cause
> one of all Norwegians, Scandinavians or
> whatever silent majority you are claiming
> to be sharing your views.
You didn't get my point did you? So I'll let you have it in with a little
tea spoon:
This Rodney guy who addressed me in a IMO rather unpleasant posting wrote:
>> I know I speak for others here when I ask
>> that you refrain from the use of vulgar/curse/
>> slang-words.
Yes - he did write "I know I speak for others" - and thus did the same thing
that you now blame me for doing, even though someone just a few days before
came with a very clear statement "speak *only* for yourself". To show this
Rodney guy how unserious his offensive posting IMO thus looked I answered
him by using his own logic. Obviously you didn't get that point!
It seems that most people here (me included) are tired of these offensive
disputes going on here. To help stop it you and others can stop making one
law for Sigvald and one law for the rest, and also stop using my name in the
topic-line in offensive mails.
Sigvald
Anthvvuono
Thanks
Message 635 -
2003-05-31 at 08:11:20
Mr. Gary Leach,
Thank you, you will be hearing from me soon!
Anthony
Thank you, you will be hearing from me soon!
Anthony
Don Rosa
DCML Digest issue 60
Message 636 -
2003-05-31 at 10:01:02
> From: Anthvvuono at aol.com
> Subject: Don Rosa's absence?
> I've noticed Don Rosa hasn't written anything on this board in
> months. I was
> just wondering if he was extremely busy, resting, or on tour.
No.
Just sorta disgusted with this "new DCML".
I've considered unsubscribing, but I figure there might still be some people
who want to ask me questions sometimes, so I keep lurking and, as always,
never speaking up unless someone asks me a direct question. I'm not so much
of a Disney comics fan myself and I'm only here to make myself directly
available to comics fans. But who needs this incessant petty squabbling?
Maybe better I should just leave my address somewhere and say, "If anybody
needs me, I'll be at so-and-so".
> Subject: Don Rosa's absence?
> I've noticed Don Rosa hasn't written anything on this board in
> months. I was
> just wondering if he was extremely busy, resting, or on tour.
No.
Just sorta disgusted with this "new DCML".
I've considered unsubscribing, but I figure there might still be some people
who want to ask me questions sometimes, so I keep lurking and, as always,
never speaking up unless someone asks me a direct question. I'm not so much
of a Disney comics fan myself and I'm only here to make myself directly
available to comics fans. But who needs this incessant petty squabbling?
Maybe better I should just leave my address somewhere and say, "If anybody
needs me, I'll be at so-and-so".
Fabio Blanco
This place...
Message 637 -
2003-05-31 at 12:21:52
I agree with Don Rosa. This DCML is a really mess, and the idea of a
parallel OT forum looks futile...
I like comment on the works of Barks and Mr. Rosa, I am a fan of both, I
love the ways of his art.
I want enjoy this place again...
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
parallel OT forum looks futile...
I like comment on the works of Barks and Mr. Rosa, I am a fan of both, I
love the ways of his art.
I want enjoy this place again...
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Cord Wiljes
Your favorite Disney comics publications
Message 638 -
2003-05-31 at 14:46:14
What are your favorite Disney comics publications? Those you would never
sell for a million Dollars? The reason could be: You have nostalgic
memories (your first comic, ...), they are incredibly scarce, have an
ideal production value or any other reason why they are dear to your
heart. No restriction to age or country of publication.
Let's make a thought experiment: If you had to give away all of your
Disney comics except three copies. Which ones would those be? For me
those would be:
+ one CBL Set (b/w edition) - probably the first WDC&S volume (Barks)
+ an early volume of "Walt Disney's lustige Taschenb?cher" - probably
"Tick, Trick & Track r?umen auf" (Scarpa et al.)
+ Mickey Mouse in Color (Gottfredson)
Cord
sell for a million Dollars? The reason could be: You have nostalgic
memories (your first comic, ...), they are incredibly scarce, have an
ideal production value or any other reason why they are dear to your
heart. No restriction to age or country of publication.
Let's make a thought experiment: If you had to give away all of your
Disney comics except three copies. Which ones would those be? For me
those would be:
+ one CBL Set (b/w edition) - probably the first WDC&S volume (Barks)
+ an early volume of "Walt Disney's lustige Taschenb?cher" - probably
"Tick, Trick & Track r?umen auf" (Scarpa et al.)
+ Mickey Mouse in Color (Gottfredson)
Cord
Stefan Diös
Evaluating Gladstone's luck
Message 639 -
2003-05-31 at 14:50:40
Kristian Pedersen about Gladstone's unlikely luck:
>Being familiar with the obscenely huge numbers that
>arise in the branch of mathematics known as
>combinatorics, I would venture the guess that the most
>unbelievably lucky event happens to Gladstone in
>Barks' story about Hondorica: As I recall, Donald
>tears up a treasure map in twenty-odd pieces and
>throws it into the river. Whereupon the pieces
>rearrange themselves into a readable map a couple of
>hundred yards further down the river, where Gladstone
>is fishing.
Or how about the coincidence that two donaldists will, separately, reach
the same conclusion from all these vast, huge, enormous sources of
Gladstoneness? :-)
I smiled when I started reading your post, for I knew what my answer would
be. I, too, spent some time thinking about this exact question about 20
years ago. That was before Rosa, so I was mostly "limited" to the Barks
stories. And I, too, was deeply fascinated by the torn Hondorica map
floating together in the stream and decided that without any reasonable
doubt, this must be it.
As far as I can remember, I never discussed this at length with anybody,
and I'm quite certain I never put it in writing. But if I had, it would
have been very similar to what you wrote here. Which also marks the first
time I hear anyone else discuss it at all. Weird. Kristian, I didn't think
I knew you, but if I know myself at all, I obviously know you, too! ;-)
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
>Being familiar with the obscenely huge numbers that
>arise in the branch of mathematics known as
>combinatorics, I would venture the guess that the most
>unbelievably lucky event happens to Gladstone in
>Barks' story about Hondorica: As I recall, Donald
>tears up a treasure map in twenty-odd pieces and
>throws it into the river. Whereupon the pieces
>rearrange themselves into a readable map a couple of
>hundred yards further down the river, where Gladstone
>is fishing.
Or how about the coincidence that two donaldists will, separately, reach
the same conclusion from all these vast, huge, enormous sources of
Gladstoneness? :-)
I smiled when I started reading your post, for I knew what my answer would
be. I, too, spent some time thinking about this exact question about 20
years ago. That was before Rosa, so I was mostly "limited" to the Barks
stories. And I, too, was deeply fascinated by the torn Hondorica map
floating together in the stream and decided that without any reasonable
doubt, this must be it.
As far as I can remember, I never discussed this at length with anybody,
and I'm quite certain I never put it in writing. But if I had, it would
have been very similar to what you wrote here. Which also marks the first
time I hear anyone else discuss it at all. Weird. Kristian, I didn't think
I knew you, but if I know myself at all, I obviously know you, too! ;-)
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Cord Wiljes
AW: Evaluating Gladstone's luck
Message 640 -
2003-05-31 at 15:37:43
Kristian wrote:
> I would venture the guess that the most
> unbelievably lucky event happens to Gladstone in
> Barks' story about Hondorica: As I recall, Donald
> tears up a treasure map in twenty-odd pieces and
> throws it into the river. Whereupon the pieces
> rearrange themselves into a readable map a couple of
> hundred yards further down the river, where Gladstone
> is fishing.
Which is why this event (a map torn to pieces being reassembled in a
stream of water) led most of the German Donaldists to the conclusion
that the Second Law of Thermodynamics does not hold true for Stella
Anatium (=the world/dimension/time the ducks live in). This is not
necessarily valid though, because the second law in its statistical
interpretation does not rule out such an event but only states that it
is so very unlikely that it will practically never happen.
A torn map reassembling automatically means that the entropy of the
system is reduced (because the degree of order is higher afterwards).
This could only be done by sending energy into the system. So Gladstone
somehow has to emanate luck energy. Why not? after all he is avoiding to
spend too much of any other form of energy. Maybe he needs to collect
his luck energy? Being lucky would be hard work after all.
Cord
> I would venture the guess that the most
> unbelievably lucky event happens to Gladstone in
> Barks' story about Hondorica: As I recall, Donald
> tears up a treasure map in twenty-odd pieces and
> throws it into the river. Whereupon the pieces
> rearrange themselves into a readable map a couple of
> hundred yards further down the river, where Gladstone
> is fishing.
Which is why this event (a map torn to pieces being reassembled in a
stream of water) led most of the German Donaldists to the conclusion
that the Second Law of Thermodynamics does not hold true for Stella
Anatium (=the world/dimension/time the ducks live in). This is not
necessarily valid though, because the second law in its statistical
interpretation does not rule out such an event but only states that it
is so very unlikely that it will practically never happen.
A torn map reassembling automatically means that the entropy of the
system is reduced (because the degree of order is higher afterwards).
This could only be done by sending energy into the system. So Gladstone
somehow has to emanate luck energy. Why not? after all he is avoiding to
spend too much of any other form of energy. Maybe he needs to collect
his luck energy? Being lucky would be hard work after all.
Cord
Søren Krarup Olesen
Your favorite Disney comics publications
Message 641 -
2003-05-31 at 15:38:38
CORD + ALL:
> What are your favorite Disney comics publications? Those you would
> never sell for a million Dollars?
Well, that's an awfull lot of money, isn't it. In my case it would have
to be my collection of pocket books (mostly Italian stories). On the
other hand, I don't have a "personal" relationship to them as such; you
can buy them for less than 10.000$ if you wish and the following day
I'd go and buy them all secondhand and keep the profit.
There are exceptions though. A few of the old pockets are "signed" by my
little sister before she went to school: #EL3NE (in an almost "rubble"
font). Those I'd hate to lose of course.
Like a few others here on DCML, I am the lucky owner of a page drawn by
Scarpa (hangs in my office). That one you cannot buy, but I am willing
to exchange it with something even more precious.
BTW, all this reminds me of last week. I was walking down the street and
on the opposite side I noticed a large drawing of something I knew very
well. As part of the window decoration, someone had made a genuine oil
on canvas painting of a panel from Bordini's snail story, but that was
only a part of it. On the left side of the painting there was a
realistic drawing of a duck behind bars. I entered the shop and asked
for the price (200$ hrmphf!) Apparently the artist has made many such
combinations of realism and stylistic Disney comics and has even held a
series of exhibitions. I guess it falls into the category of pop-art,
but, heck this was truly good stuff.
To those of you who will visit me this summer (I am hoping for a minor
invasion here :-) we might take a better look at that shop.
Best,
S?ren
> What are your favorite Disney comics publications? Those you would
> never sell for a million Dollars?
Well, that's an awfull lot of money, isn't it. In my case it would have
to be my collection of pocket books (mostly Italian stories). On the
other hand, I don't have a "personal" relationship to them as such; you
can buy them for less than 10.000$ if you wish and the following day
I'd go and buy them all secondhand and keep the profit.
There are exceptions though. A few of the old pockets are "signed" by my
little sister before she went to school: #EL3NE (in an almost "rubble"
font). Those I'd hate to lose of course.
Like a few others here on DCML, I am the lucky owner of a page drawn by
Scarpa (hangs in my office). That one you cannot buy, but I am willing
to exchange it with something even more precious.
BTW, all this reminds me of last week. I was walking down the street and
on the opposite side I noticed a large drawing of something I knew very
well. As part of the window decoration, someone had made a genuine oil
on canvas painting of a panel from Bordini's snail story, but that was
only a part of it. On the left side of the painting there was a
realistic drawing of a duck behind bars. I entered the shop and asked
for the price (200$ hrmphf!) Apparently the artist has made many such
combinations of realism and stylistic Disney comics and has even held a
series of exhibitions. I guess it falls into the category of pop-art,
but, heck this was truly good stuff.
To those of you who will visit me this summer (I am hoping for a minor
invasion here :-) we might take a better look at that shop.
Best,
S?ren
Dan Shane
DCML and proper language
Message 642 -
2003-05-31 at 15:47:04
SIGVALD WROTE:
> This Rodney guy who addressed me in a IMO rather unpleasant posting wrote:
> >> I know I speak for others here when I ask
> >> that you refrain from the use of vulgar/curse/
> >> slang-words.
>
> Yes - he did write "I know I speak for others" - and thus did the
> same thing
> that you now blame me for doing, even though someone just a few
> days before
> came with a very clear statement "speak *only* for yourself". To show this
> Rodney guy how unserious his offensive posting IMO thus looked I answered
> him by using his own logic. Obviously you didn't get that point!
AND I RELUCTANTLY RESPOND:
I'm breaking my self-imposed rule against replying to any thread begun by
Sigvald because I cannot let this claim go undefended.
Rodney did say "I know I speak for others", and in doing so he was correct.
He did not say "I know I speak for Americans" or "I know I speak for comic
fans". He simply happens to know people personally who are DCML members who
do not care for tasteless slang, and who have not lowered their principles
just because Hollywood says we should. Maybe that's why he chooses to read
Disney comics, one of the last bastions of tasteful entertainment on the
comic stands. I know I quit purchasing many other titles long ago for that
reason.
Rodney at least speaks for me, and apparently others have already spoken up
who agree with him. He has not disagreed with anyone's opinions on politics
or publishing practices, though he certainly may have private feelings about
those issues. He has simply stated that any points made here can be done
without resorting to "third grade vocabulary" (my term), and some of us
happen to feel the same way.
I know for a fact that some of us have refused to post at all for weeks (as
has been pointed out recently) because we don't like the direction DCML has
taken lately. Please don't give us more reason to remain silent.
Dan
> This Rodney guy who addressed me in a IMO rather unpleasant posting wrote:
> >> I know I speak for others here when I ask
> >> that you refrain from the use of vulgar/curse/
> >> slang-words.
>
> Yes - he did write "I know I speak for others" - and thus did the
> same thing
> that you now blame me for doing, even though someone just a few
> days before
> came with a very clear statement "speak *only* for yourself". To show this
> Rodney guy how unserious his offensive posting IMO thus looked I answered
> him by using his own logic. Obviously you didn't get that point!
AND I RELUCTANTLY RESPOND:
I'm breaking my self-imposed rule against replying to any thread begun by
Sigvald because I cannot let this claim go undefended.
Rodney did say "I know I speak for others", and in doing so he was correct.
He did not say "I know I speak for Americans" or "I know I speak for comic
fans". He simply happens to know people personally who are DCML members who
do not care for tasteless slang, and who have not lowered their principles
just because Hollywood says we should. Maybe that's why he chooses to read
Disney comics, one of the last bastions of tasteful entertainment on the
comic stands. I know I quit purchasing many other titles long ago for that
reason.
Rodney at least speaks for me, and apparently others have already spoken up
who agree with him. He has not disagreed with anyone's opinions on politics
or publishing practices, though he certainly may have private feelings about
those issues. He has simply stated that any points made here can be done
without resorting to "third grade vocabulary" (my term), and some of us
happen to feel the same way.
I know for a fact that some of us have refused to post at all for weeks (as
has been pointed out recently) because we don't like the direction DCML has
taken lately. Please don't give us more reason to remain silent.
Dan
SRoweCanoe
This place...
Message 643 -
2003-05-31 at 17:46:41
In a message dated 5/31/2003 5:27:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
longtom at oeste.com.ar writes:
> I want enjoy this place again...
i find it easy,
just place in the killfile the worst offenders,
and then ask others to not respond to them.....
and if they do anyway, just delete unread that particular thread
steven rowe
longtom at oeste.com.ar writes:
> I want enjoy this place again...
i find it easy,
just place in the killfile the worst offenders,
and then ask others to not respond to them.....
and if they do anyway, just delete unread that particular thread
steven rowe
SRoweCanoe
DCML Digest issue 60
Message 644 -
2003-05-31 at 17:46:42
In a message dated 5/31/2003 3:02:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
donrosa at iglou.com writes:
> might still be some people
> who want to ask me questions sometimes
thanks, and for us USA readers, we will look forward to asking these
questions once we read new Rosa material!
steven rowe (who gets his comics all at once once a month - so will wonder if
he should read those comments then, or wait till he gets his issues)
donrosa at iglou.com writes:
> might still be some people
> who want to ask me questions sometimes
thanks, and for us USA readers, we will look forward to asking these
questions once we read new Rosa material!
steven rowe (who gets his comics all at once once a month - so will wonder if
he should read those comments then, or wait till he gets his issues)
Someone U Know
Don rosa Is right
Message 645 -
2003-05-31 at 18:23:02
The Place is a Real Mess
No one trying to Discuss anything , or do anything just
some Bla Bla Bla Quakin
with no Use
and No objective
Don rosa U r Exactly Right
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