Hi,
I'm saddened to hear all the problems that Gemstone faces and the
cancellation of some of their titles. I really appreciate all the work the
Gemstone staff has done to bring us these great comics.
One way that Gemstone could improve the marketing of their comic books is to
make their website more child friendly. When you google "disney comics" the
Gemstone site is the first one to come up. That is great! However, the site
is not at all geared at kids. The homepage has been the same for years and
the opening sentence reads "Gemstone Publishing, through a licensing
agreement with Disney Publishing Worldwide, is offering a variety of comic
books featuring Disney's line of standard characters." Do kids really care
about the licensing agreement and that the comics contain 'standard
characters' ?
Compare this to for instance:
http://www.disney.it/Publishing/Topolinomagazine/
http://www.disney.de/micky-maus-magazin/
http://www.disney.no/DonaldDuck/
http://www.akuankka.fi/
These sites are flashy and contain games and up-to-date information about
upcoming issues. If kids see this it will make them nag their parents to get
them a subscription.
Note also that some of these sites are part of the local official Disney
websites. I understand it may be difficult to get a section on
www.disney.com dedicated to Gemstone's comics, but they should at least be
listed at http://disney.go.com/disneybooks/index.html to offer more exposure
and show the world there is more to Disney publications besides the Cheetah
Girls and Kim Possible.
Kind regards,
Arthur
Author
Topic: 200612
(65 messages)
Arthur De Wolf
Gemstone's website
Message 16 -
2006-12-06 at 14:22:42
Francesco Spreafico
Interview with Casty
Message 17 -
2006-12-06 at 17:49:35
For whoever can at least read Italian:
http://www.comicus.it/view.php?section=speciali&id=150
It's an interview with Casty (The current best Disney author, IMHO).
Francesco
http://www.comicus.it/view.php?section=speciali&id=150
It's an interview with Casty (The current best Disney author, IMHO).
Francesco
Dave Rawson
Fans To Freelancers!
Message 18 -
2006-12-06 at 20:44:25
JTorci3511 at aol.com wrote:
> Also, I hope you all enjoyed my script for Super Goof. I added quite a
> bit to the original bare-bones outline I received. Feedback is welcome,
> if you'd like - privately or in this forum.
Joe, congratulations on your work!
I still remember the great happiness I had when I first began with the
Disney characters and can easily imagine your delight.
Since I'm hardly in the loop on who is doing what, are there other fans
here who have seen this dream finally come true for themselves?
> Also, I hope you all enjoyed my script for Super Goof. I added quite a
> bit to the original bare-bones outline I received. Feedback is welcome,
> if you'd like - privately or in this forum.
Joe, congratulations on your work!
I still remember the great happiness I had when I first began with the
Disney characters and can easily imagine your delight.
Since I'm hardly in the loop on who is doing what, are there other fans
here who have seen this dream finally come true for themselves?
Kimba1962
DCML Digest, Vol 46, Issue 5
Message 19 -
2006-12-07 at 02:19:46
I'll also cast a vote in favor of a third (at least) prestige title of the "Mickey and Donald" variety. (I guess calling it "Mickey and Donald and Friends" is out, eh?) And if a third prestige title is seriously considered, Gemstone might as well go all out and consider a FOURTH (to maintain a "one per week" release schedule, with "odd weeks out" being reserved for special releases such as the planned quarterlies). This fourth prestige could be the "Treasures" title, limiting its repertoire to classic stories from America that have not seen print in many years. What better place could there be, for example, to put some of the long Scarpa stories that had just begun to appear in the pockets on a semi-regular basis before the latter's untimely demise... and I wouldn't mind seeing additional installments in the "Uncle Scrooge's Treasure Chest" series there as well.
David, John, Gary, et al. deserve all sorts of credit for keeping this thing going... and even more to the point, they have shown that they're willing to listen to the fans.
Chris Barat
--
The Barat's Home Page -- watch for weekly updates!http://home.comcast.net/~kimba1962
David, John, Gary, et al. deserve all sorts of credit for keeping this thing going... and even more to the point, they have shown that they're willing to listen to the fans.
Chris Barat
--
The Barat's Home Page -- watch for weekly updates!http://home.comcast.net/~kimba1962
JTorci3511
Thanks, Dave Rawson
Message 20 -
2006-12-07 at 14:25:00
To Dave Rawson:
Dave writes:
>>Joe, congratulations on your work!>>
Thanks for your very kind words! They mean a great deal, coming from
someone whose work I've enjoyed over the years!
>>I still remember the great happiness I had when I first began with the
Disney characters and can easily imagine your delight.>>
Seeing my own words in balloons over Super Goof's head was a great thrill.
Especially since Super Goof is one of my all time faves, and that most of the
later stories from Gold Key could have been written much funnier than they
were.
>>Since I'm hardly in the loop on who is doing what, are there other fans
here who have seen this dream finally come true for themselves?>>
My longtime friend Chris Barat did a wonderful translation of "The Great
Paint Robbery" in UNCLE SCROOGE # 353. Fellow letterhack Thad Komorowski has
done some dialoguing as well, including a Gyro in this year's CHRISTMAS PARADE.
And, as long as I'm plugging, everyone on this list should check out Dave's
"The Dragon that Swallows Its Tail" in Gemstone's dear, departed MICKEY MOUSE
ADVENTURES # 6. This is an excellent example of Dave's work, with some nice
connections to Gottfredson as well!
Joe Torcivia.
Dave writes:
>>Joe, congratulations on your work!>>
Thanks for your very kind words! They mean a great deal, coming from
someone whose work I've enjoyed over the years!
>>I still remember the great happiness I had when I first began with the
Disney characters and can easily imagine your delight.>>
Seeing my own words in balloons over Super Goof's head was a great thrill.
Especially since Super Goof is one of my all time faves, and that most of the
later stories from Gold Key could have been written much funnier than they
were.
>>Since I'm hardly in the loop on who is doing what, are there other fans
here who have seen this dream finally come true for themselves?>>
My longtime friend Chris Barat did a wonderful translation of "The Great
Paint Robbery" in UNCLE SCROOGE # 353. Fellow letterhack Thad Komorowski has
done some dialoguing as well, including a Gyro in this year's CHRISTMAS PARADE.
And, as long as I'm plugging, everyone on this list should check out Dave's
"The Dragon that Swallows Its Tail" in Gemstone's dear, departed MICKEY MOUSE
ADVENTURES # 6. This is an excellent example of Dave's work, with some nice
connections to Gottfredson as well!
Joe Torcivia.
Asaramelli
ENC: Editora Abril and Disney Brasil sites
Message 21 -
2006-12-08 at 22:56:55
Hi Arthur, Hi all friends !
Here in South, we have the same situation for the brazilian Disney comics
site.
The "Abril Jovem" site appearence is very poor and the Disney comics are
dimmed by many other products for very young childrens, female, and
cinema-related products.
Compare this :
http://jovem.abril.com.br/
Last year, I wrote for the Ed. Abril and I reported another
problem: You have the option to sign a newsletter, but the problem is the
newsletter never was sent. After my contact, they really sent five or six
newsletters, but the Disney comics were not the evidence products !
They also opened a space for short news, but it is used for the most part of
the time for notice related with Disney cinema, not for comics.
The situation for the Disney Brasil Site is nonsense worst.
While you have a very good comics area with a Duckburg simulation in the
Disney Italia, we see a very small area for Disney comics in Brazil. And
even the covers are not changed since December 2005 !
http://www.disney.com.br/leitura/index_flash.html
So, the marketing improvements are needed not only for the USA,
The lack of attention with the fans of Comics Disney of North and
South Americas is incompressible !
Alexandre
S?o Paulo
Brazil
Arthur wrote :
==================================================
I'm saddened to hear all the problems that Gemstone faces and the
cancellation of some of their titles. I really appreciate all the work the
Gemstone staff has done to bring us these great comics.
One way that Gemstone could improve the marketing of their comic books is to
make their website more child friendly. When you google "disney comics" the
Gemstone site is the first one to come up. That is great! However, the site
is not at all geared at kids. The homepage has been the same for years and
the opening sentence reads "Gemstone Publishing, through a licensing
agreement with Disney Publishing Worldwide, is offering a variety of comic
books featuring Disney's line of standard characters." Do kids really care
about the licensing agreement and that the comics contain 'standard
characters' ?
Compare this to for instance:
http://www.disney.it/Publishing/Topolinomagazine/
http://www.disney.de/micky-maus-magazin/
http://www.disney.no/DonaldDuck/
http://www.akuankka.fi/
These sites are flashy and contain games and up-to-date information about
upcoming issues. If kids see this it will make them nag their parents to get
them a subscription.
Note also that some of these sites are part of the local official Disney
websites. I understand it may be difficult to get a section onwww.disney.com
dedicated to Gemstone's comics, but they should at least be listed at
http://disney.go.com/disneybooks/index.html to offer more exposure and show
the world there is more to Disney publications besides the Cheetah Girls and
Kim Possible.
Kind regards,
Arthur
Here in South, we have the same situation for the brazilian Disney comics
site.
The "Abril Jovem" site appearence is very poor and the Disney comics are
dimmed by many other products for very young childrens, female, and
cinema-related products.
Compare this :
http://jovem.abril.com.br/
Last year, I wrote for the Ed. Abril and I reported another
problem: You have the option to sign a newsletter, but the problem is the
newsletter never was sent. After my contact, they really sent five or six
newsletters, but the Disney comics were not the evidence products !
They also opened a space for short news, but it is used for the most part of
the time for notice related with Disney cinema, not for comics.
The situation for the Disney Brasil Site is nonsense worst.
While you have a very good comics area with a Duckburg simulation in the
Disney Italia, we see a very small area for Disney comics in Brazil. And
even the covers are not changed since December 2005 !
http://www.disney.com.br/leitura/index_flash.html
So, the marketing improvements are needed not only for the USA,
The lack of attention with the fans of Comics Disney of North and
South Americas is incompressible !
Alexandre
S?o Paulo
Brazil
Arthur wrote :
==================================================
I'm saddened to hear all the problems that Gemstone faces and the
cancellation of some of their titles. I really appreciate all the work the
Gemstone staff has done to bring us these great comics.
One way that Gemstone could improve the marketing of their comic books is to
make their website more child friendly. When you google "disney comics" the
Gemstone site is the first one to come up. That is great! However, the site
is not at all geared at kids. The homepage has been the same for years and
the opening sentence reads "Gemstone Publishing, through a licensing
agreement with Disney Publishing Worldwide, is offering a variety of comic
books featuring Disney's line of standard characters." Do kids really care
about the licensing agreement and that the comics contain 'standard
characters' ?
Compare this to for instance:
http://www.disney.it/Publishing/Topolinomagazine/
http://www.disney.de/micky-maus-magazin/
http://www.disney.no/DonaldDuck/
http://www.akuankka.fi/
These sites are flashy and contain games and up-to-date information about
upcoming issues. If kids see this it will make them nag their parents to get
them a subscription.
Note also that some of these sites are part of the local official Disney
websites. I understand it may be difficult to get a section onwww.disney.com
dedicated to Gemstone's comics, but they should at least be listed at
http://disney.go.com/disneybooks/index.html to offer more exposure and show
the world there is more to Disney publications besides the Cheetah Girls and
Kim Possible.
Kind regards,
Arthur
Kimba1962
DCML Digest, Vol 46, Issue 8 (Now Museum, Now You Don't)
Message 22 -
2006-12-09 at 05:09:35
Joe wrote (to Dave Rawson):
> Seeing my own words in balloons over Super Goof's head was a great thrill.
> Especially since Super Goof is one of my all time faves, and that most of the
> later stories from Gold Key could have been written much funnier than they
> were.
I loved Joe's script. I don't think one could come much closer than that, in this day and age, to the spirit of the "Vic Lockman-era" SUPER GOOF scripts at their funniest (and zaniest). By contrast, when I did my translation of "The Great Paint Robbery" away back when -- I was in grad school at the time, in the late 80s -- I was more than a bit influenced by DUCKTALES, to the extent that I slipped in some "Quackaroonies!" and "Aye lads" along the way.
Chris
> Seeing my own words in balloons over Super Goof's head was a great thrill.
> Especially since Super Goof is one of my all time faves, and that most of the
> later stories from Gold Key could have been written much funnier than they
> were.
I loved Joe's script. I don't think one could come much closer than that, in this day and age, to the spirit of the "Vic Lockman-era" SUPER GOOF scripts at their funniest (and zaniest). By contrast, when I did my translation of "The Great Paint Robbery" away back when -- I was in grad school at the time, in the late 80s -- I was more than a bit influenced by DUCKTALES, to the extent that I slipped in some "Quackaroonies!" and "Aye lads" along the way.
Chris
Nils
Hall of Fame hardcover book #15: Tony Strobl
Message 23 -
2006-12-10 at 15:12:57
Perhaps this forum has discussed this particular event
earlier, but here goes: I'm very pleased to finally see
*a Tony Strobl book*. I believe that besides Barks, Strobl
was among the best liked and most influential Disney
comics artists in the late 1950ies and throughout the
1960ies, at least for Scandinavian readers.
The book in question is Volume #15 in Egmont's very
good "Hall of Fame" series. The book has 182 pages,
and has scholarly informative introductions by Germund
von Wowern and Karl-Erik Lindkvist. We even learn
that Strobl saved a seven-year old girl from drowning
in 1942 ...
For its contents, see
http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php/x/no/HOF++15 .
See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Strobl
Nils Lid Hjort
earlier, but here goes: I'm very pleased to finally see
*a Tony Strobl book*. I believe that besides Barks, Strobl
was among the best liked and most influential Disney
comics artists in the late 1950ies and throughout the
1960ies, at least for Scandinavian readers.
The book in question is Volume #15 in Egmont's very
good "Hall of Fame" series. The book has 182 pages,
and has scholarly informative introductions by Germund
von Wowern and Karl-Erik Lindkvist. We even learn
that Strobl saved a seven-year old girl from drowning
in 1942 ...
For its contents, see
http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php/x/no/HOF++15 .
See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Strobl
Nils Lid Hjort
Robert Hutchings
Joe Torcivia's "Now Museum, Now You Don't"
Message 24 -
2006-12-11 at 02:41:52
Chris wrote:
> I loved Joe's script. I don't think one could come
> much closer than that, in this day and age, to the
> spirit of the "Vic Lockman-era" SUPER GOOF scripts
> at their funniest (and zaniest).
I write:
On the quality of Joe's story, I agree 100%. It was
very well done, and if I may be so bold, I hope we can
see Joe more often (and more SuperGoof, for that
matter--perhaps in this hypothetical Mickey and Donald
prestige?). I'm not so familiar with SuperGoof
specifically, but I am with Vic Lockman, and Joe nails
him. Some, I suppose, would beg to differ, but for me
Lockman reflects the highlight of post-Barks writing.
Without taking anything away from post-Lockman
SuperGoof or Goofy writers, I think most don't capture
as well that character's personality. By sticking
closely to Lockman's style, Joe really does a fine job
of fully developing SuperGoof. For those who haven't
read it, I urge you to do so. For what it's worth, the
McGreals' Blotman sequel isn't too shabby either.
Robert Hutchings
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> I loved Joe's script. I don't think one could come
> much closer than that, in this day and age, to the
> spirit of the "Vic Lockman-era" SUPER GOOF scripts
> at their funniest (and zaniest).
I write:
On the quality of Joe's story, I agree 100%. It was
very well done, and if I may be so bold, I hope we can
see Joe more often (and more SuperGoof, for that
matter--perhaps in this hypothetical Mickey and Donald
prestige?). I'm not so familiar with SuperGoof
specifically, but I am with Vic Lockman, and Joe nails
him. Some, I suppose, would beg to differ, but for me
Lockman reflects the highlight of post-Barks writing.
Without taking anything away from post-Lockman
SuperGoof or Goofy writers, I think most don't capture
as well that character's personality. By sticking
closely to Lockman's style, Joe really does a fine job
of fully developing SuperGoof. For those who haven't
read it, I urge you to do so. For what it's worth, the
McGreals' Blotman sequel isn't too shabby either.
Robert Hutchings
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Don Rosa Strobl US#50?
Message 25 -
2006-12-11 at 03:55:12
To Don Rosa, or anyone who could answer my question:
In his introduction to the first episode of The Life and Times of $crooge
McDuck Don says:
"I regard any $crooge tale not written by Barks to be apocryphal. However in
UNCLE $CROOGE #50 there was a story drawn by Tony Strobl which showed a
young $crooge earning his first dime by cleaning a ditchdigger's boots."
Yet I can not find such story in US 50, as I search the Inducks. Has Don
done some typo or other error there?
Best Wishes
Timo
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In his introduction to the first episode of The Life and Times of $crooge
McDuck Don says:
"I regard any $crooge tale not written by Barks to be apocryphal. However in
UNCLE $CROOGE #50 there was a story drawn by Tony Strobl which showed a
young $crooge earning his first dime by cleaning a ditchdigger's boots."
Yet I can not find such story in US 50, as I search the Inducks. Has Don
done some typo or other error there?
Best Wishes
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
041 489 77 81 ----------------- -
timoro2 at yahoo.com
timoro at hotmail.com
?? Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
?? Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
?? Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali:
http://www.kvaak.fi
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"
Germund Von Wowern
Don Rosa Strobl US#50
Message 26 -
2006-12-11 at 14:40:20
> However in UNCLE $CROOGE #50 there was a story drawn
by Tony
> Strobl which showed a young $crooge earning his
first dime by
> cleaning a ditchdigger's boots."
>
> Yet I can not find such story in US 50,
It should be the one below, but now I see in Inducks
that one page is apparently cut from the US
versions... Someone could perhaps check again.
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/S+63099
/Germund
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by Tony
> Strobl which showed a young $crooge earning his
first dime by
> cleaning a ditchdigger's boots."
>
> Yet I can not find such story in US 50,
It should be the one below, but now I see in Inducks
that one page is apparently cut from the US
versions... Someone could perhaps check again.
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/S+63099
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Message 27 -
2006-12-11 at 17:51:22
----- Original Message -----
From: "Germund von Wowern":
> It should be the one below, but now I see in Inducks
> that one page is apparently cut from the US
> versions... Someone could perhaps check again.
>
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/S+63099
Finnish edition has 8 pages (therefore two missing) and it has no scene
depicting Scrooge as young lad. Perhaps in those two pages?
Don Rosa sent me a message that the story in question might be in Donald
Duck #50, but according to Inducks it has no stories by Strobl. Only cover.
http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php/x/us/DD+++50
Timo
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.................................
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Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"
From: "Germund von Wowern":
> It should be the one below, but now I see in Inducks
> that one page is apparently cut from the US
> versions... Someone could perhaps check again.
>
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/S+63099
Finnish edition has 8 pages (therefore two missing) and it has no scene
depicting Scrooge as young lad. Perhaps in those two pages?
Don Rosa sent me a message that the story in question might be in Donald
Duck #50, but according to Inducks it has no stories by Strobl. Only cover.
http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php/x/us/DD+++50
Timo
^^''*''^^
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Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
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http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
?? Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali:
http://www.kvaak.fi
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"
Fluks, H.W. (Harry)
Don Rosa Strobl US#50?
Message 28 -
2006-12-11 at 18:08:57
Timo:
> In his introduction to the first episode of The Life and
> Times of $crooge McDuck Don says:
> "I regard any $crooge tale not written by Barks to be
> apocryphal. However in
> UNCLE $CROOGE #50 there was a story drawn by Tony Strobl
> which showed a
> young $crooge earning his first dime by cleaning a
> ditchdigger's boots."
>
> Yet I can not find such story in US 50, as I search the
> Inducks. Has Don done some typo or other error there?
Don was mistaken. The story is "The Invisible Intruder" in Uncle Scrooge
#44.
Written by Vic Lockman.
--Harry.
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> In his introduction to the first episode of The Life and
> Times of $crooge McDuck Don says:
> "I regard any $crooge tale not written by Barks to be
> apocryphal. However in
> UNCLE $CROOGE #50 there was a story drawn by Tony Strobl
> which showed a
> young $crooge earning his first dime by cleaning a
> ditchdigger's boots."
>
> Yet I can not find such story in US 50, as I search the
> Inducks. Has Don done some typo or other error there?
Don was mistaken. The story is "The Invisible Intruder" in Uncle Scrooge
#44.
Written by Vic Lockman.
--Harry.
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Timo Ronkainen
Don Rosa Strobl US#50?
Message 29 -
2006-12-11 at 19:04:07
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fluks, H.W. (Harry)" <harry.fluks at tno.nl>
>Don was mistaken. The story is "The Invisible Intruder" in Uncle Scrooge
>#44.
Yes, in that story we have scene where kid Scrooge cleans boots, but it is
not drawn by Strobl.
Timo
From: "Fluks, H.W. (Harry)" <harry.fluks at tno.nl>
>Don was mistaken. The story is "The Invisible Intruder" in Uncle Scrooge
>#44.
Yes, in that story we have scene where kid Scrooge cleans boots, but it is
not drawn by Strobl.
Timo
Fluks, H.W. (Harry)
Don Rosa Strobl US#50?
Message 30 -
2006-12-11 at 19:21:05
> > "The Invisible Intruder" in Uncle Scrooge #44.
>
> Yes, in that story we have scene where kid Scrooge cleans
> boots, but it is not drawn by Strobl.
Oops. Yes, sorry.
--Harry.
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>
> Yes, in that story we have scene where kid Scrooge cleans
> boots, but it is not drawn by Strobl.
Oops. Yes, sorry.
--Harry.
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