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Mike Rhode:

>Can anyone use INDUCKS and give me the reprint info on Mummy Ring? I
>know I've got it in something.

I'm not translating all abreviations since there are quite a few, but here's
what I got:

Germany: BLDD 2, DOCL 1, TGD 86, WTTT 1(incomplete), WTTTZ 1(incomplete)
(Der Schlangenring)
Denmark: AA99B06, DS 1980(incomplete), GB 8 (Slangeringen)
France: JM 1779, PM 319 (Donald Duck and the Mummy's Ring)
Italy: GSQ 1(incomplete), ZP 106, ZPSP 1 (Paperino e l'anello maledetto)
The Netherlands: 77-22(incomplete), BV.055, KV.01 (De ring van de mummie)
Norway: DD99-08, GB 8 (Mumiens ring)
Sweden: GB 8, VKFT 80(incomplete) (Kalle och mumiens ring)
USA: BL 1-161, DDA 14, LICD 2, OS 29, USDD 1(incomplete), WDCD 44

Hope this helps.

Francois

Never mind my question about where it was reprinted; I remembered the Grand
Comics Database (http://www.comics.org) gets data from INDUCKS and it worked
fine. Although I don't have nearly as many reprints of this story as I
thought I would.

Any more suggestions about Barks and Nat'l Geo use would be much
appreciated. I asked Randy Scott at MSU's Comic Art Collection about the
CBL and he said they're not indexed, so it's not possible to find the essays
without reading each of the 30 volumes.

Mike
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At 2000-09-28 16:05 +0000, Michael Rhode wrote:
>so it's not possible to find the essays without reading each of the 30
>volumes.

As I wrote earlier today (don't know if you got that message already or
not), the "Mummy's ring compared to National Geographic" essay (not its
real name) is at the end of Set 1 Volume 1. I don't know the whereabouts of
any others by heart, though.

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Frank Stajano wrote:

> At 2000-09-27 18:39 +0200, Francesco Spreafico wrote:
> >Alberto Becattini in an article included in Zio Paperone #106 gives a couple
> >of examples:
> >
> >National Geographic April 1940 and October 1941 --> Donald Duck and the
> >Mummy Ring (Four Color Comic #29, September 1943)
>
> This is the stuff originally pointed out in volume 1(1) of the CBL by, if I
> remember correctly, Ault and Andrae in an extensive and well-researched
> article/interview.

My recollection was not 100% accurate, so here are the details after
checking. The article was indeed at the end of Set 1 Volume 1, but it was
by Andrae and Blum, while Ault was a coauthor of the interview from which
excerpts are quoted throughout the article.

I also checked the ZP 106 and was outraged that the article there is
signed Becattini but has no mention of the original CBL article or its
authors. All the National Geographic photographs have a credit to the NG
and the photographer in the margin, despite having been reproduced from
the CBL and not from the original magazine (presumably to avoid litigation
from NG); but dead silence about the substance of the essay. The only
mention of CBL in the article is in the caption of the Mummy's ring
*cover* that Carl Barks did for the slipcase to set 1.

This is not the first time I see something like this happening. As a
scientist and author I find it appalling.

I am aware (having been in that situation myself) that Disney grabs all
sorts of rights on the stuff done by its licencees. But even this has its
limitations. It means they can reuse that material without PAYING the
original authors; it isn't a blanket licence for plagiarism.

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms

I don't know if my last message arrived since I don't see it posted on the
chat line. As I mentioned before, Geoffrey Blum and I have done a number
of articles extensively describing and analyzing Barks' use of the
Geographics. These articles appear in the Carl Barks hardbound library and
the color library.

Barks'use of the Geographic began with his first drawn story, "Pirate Gold"
into the Uncle Scrooge adventures. It helped inspire such stories as Tra
La La, Land Beneath the Ground and the Terries and Fermies, and The Ghost
of the Grotto, and many more. We have numerous photos matched with Barks'
art, cvomments from Barks, and even maps detailing the use of the
Geographics.

Best Wishes,

Tom Andrae

Robin Andrae
Tom Andrae
andrae at global.california.com

Hi, Jan!

> A few days ago I found the new issue of "Super Picsou Geant" #99 at a
> newsstand with foreign comics, and I decided to buy it, because there is
> the following story in it: "Per un dollaro in meno" by Gian Giacomo
> Dalmasso and Pier Lorenzo De Vita from 1967. This one was done for the
> Italian "Almanacco Topolino"-series, and according to Inducks, only
> reprinted in France.
> In it, Donald teams up with the bad guy from Barks' "Sheriff of Bullet
> valley"

> But is there also a
> reference to the Sergio-Leone-movie "For a fistful of dollars"

Surely! But only in the title. Lots of parodies popped up in Italy in those
days. Like "Silvestro e Gonzales: per qualche formaggino in meno" with the
famous WB characters...
And so on!

Luca