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Timo Ronkainen
>>a scan of the Donald Duck newspaper strip from April 5, 1945,

Strange thing is that "Truman" is lettered different way than other text, it is changed. Finnish translation has "Roosevelt" instead.

Timo
D.M. Van Eijmeren
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:25:17 -0400
From: David Gerstein <ramapith at verizon.net>

> As some of you may know, one of my hobbies outside my Gemstone work
> is researching Disney's silent period? the precomics days, with
> Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.

I've put your message on webboard 'McDrake International'.
There, Disney animation is fully on topic. :-)

See: Oswald and other silent Disney animation
http://bb.mcdrake.nl/engdisney/viewtopic.php?id=271

Hopefully you'll get some results. I find this topic very interesting, as
you know.

-- Dani?l
François Willot
M.J. Prior
Timo Ronkainen:

> Strange thing is that "Truman" is lettered different way
> than other text, it is changed. Finnish translation
> has "Roosevelt" instead.

You truly have An Eye For Detail, Timo! Let's see if we
can sort this out. The original comic srip appeared in
newspapers on April 5, 1945. Shortly after this, Franklin
D. Roosevelt died on April 12, 1945.

That must be the reason why the dialogue was changed to
"Truman" when the strip was reprinted in September's WDCS
#60, which is the scan provided by Bob Bishop.

Greetings, Michiel Prior.
Myklebust, Are
> Michael Prior wrote:
> "Timo Ronkainen: "Strange thing is that "Truman" is lettered
> different way than other text, it is changed. Finnish translation has
> "Roosevelt" instead."
> You truly have An Eye For Detail, Timo! Let's see if we can sort this
> out. The original comic strip appeared in newspapers on April 5, 1945.
> Shortly after this, Franklin D. Roosevelt died on April 12, 1945. That
> must be the reason why the dialogue was changed to "Truman" when the
> strip was reprinted in September's WDCS #60, which is the scan
> provided by Bob Bishop."
> This is exactly the reason for why I needed a scan! Look out for a
> posting soon about this subject at David Lesjak excellent blog "Toons
> At War" ;
> http://toonsatwar.blogspot.com
> Are Myklebust
Tom Wormstedt
Hey everyone:

One of my favorite Donald stories by Barks is Darkest Africa.
Unfortunately, every single copy I've read has the panels redrawn or
reinked by someone else - Daan Jippes, I think? I like Jippes but I'm
not too fond of the changes in the art and would much rather have a
copy without changes.

Is there anyone who has an original copy of this story who would be
willing to scan it or send it to me? I remember that it was online a
few years ago but that url link doesn't work anymore. Or even a scan
of Voodoo Hoodoo. I'm trying to get copies of Barks stories without
changes and I don't think there any plans to reprint the originals
(unless they used the original comics themselves).

Thanks
Tom Wormstedt
Timo Ronkainen
Darkest Africa was published in Italian Tesori -series with 100% Barks
lines. In both languages, Italian and in English. English version b/w and
Italian colored. Completely original, caringly restored by Luca Boschi.
Great work! Printed 2002.
Daan Jippes and Dick Vlottes re-inked those published in CBL.

Best Wishes
Timo

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From: "Tom Wormstedt" <t.wormstedt at gmail.com>
To: <dcml at nafsk.se>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: Donald Duck In Darkest Africa story

> Hey everyone:
>
> One of my favorite Donald stories by Barks is Darkest Africa.
> Unfortunately, every single copy I've read has the panels redrawn or
> reinked by someone else - Daan Jippes, I think? I like Jippes but I'm
> not too fond of the changes in the art and would much rather have a
> copy without changes.
>
> Is there anyone who has an original copy of this story who would be
> willing to scan it or send it to me? I remember that it was online a
> few years ago but that url link doesn't work anymore. Or even a scan
> of Voodoo Hoodoo. I'm trying to get copies of Barks stories without
> changes and I don't think there any plans to reprint the originals
> (unless they used the original comics themselves).
>
> Thanks
> Tom Wormstedt
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
Fluks, H.W. (Harry)
Timo wrote:

> Darkest Africa was published in Italian Tesori -series with
> 100% Barks
> lines. In both languages, Italian and in English. English
> version b/w and
> Italian colored. Completely original, caringly restored by
> Luca Boschi.

There is one drawback: the *lettering* is entirely new, also in the
English version.
And in the re-lettering they made a mistake: instead of "brofessor Van
Tulip of der University of Rotterdam" it now says "professor ...". So
the fake-Dutch accent (the b in brofessor) has gone.

--Harry.

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Anthvvuono
Hey guys,
I thought that you all might find this interesting. Just the other day,
some people off the Florida Keys discovered a 17th century shipwreck with
cargo worth about an incredible $500,000,000. See the link below. As soon as I
heard this story, I immediately thought of Don Rosa's "Treasure under Glass"
and how very similar the news mirrors the art. Mr. Rosa, you should be proud!
Scrooge McDuck himself would be jealous of such a remarkable find underwater!
Sincerely,
Anthony

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ZeldasTriforce
Hi all!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/6675381.stm

As the link shows, a fire engulfed the Cutty Sark. From other pictures I've
seen, the ship looked like a fireball. But apparently the damage isn't as bad
as feared. 50% of the ship's plankings had already been removed for restoration
before the fire. Of what was left, only some of it has been damaged beyond
repair.

I, like some/many of you, had a newfound knowledge/respect for the Cutty Sark
after reading Don's "Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark." For that sentimental
reason and for the preservation of history itself, I'm glad the ship came out
of the fire pretty well.

Derek Smith

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Kriton Kyrimis
> I thought that you all might find this interesting. Just the other
> day, some people off the Florida Keys discovered a 17th century
> shipwreck with cargo worth about an incredible $500,000,000. See the
> link below. As soon as I heard this story, I immediately thought of Don
> Rosa's "Treasure under Glass" and how very similar the news mirrors the
> art. Mr. Rosa, you should be proud! Scrooge McDuck himself would be
> jealous of such a remarkable find underwater!

The story talks about 500,000 *rare* coins, which they expect to sell at $1000
each, to collectors. Somehow, 500,000 and "rare" don't seem to go well
together. This reminds me of a certain other Uncle Scrooge story!

Kriton.
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Ole Damgaard
Hi all!

I was recently asked about the origin of this funny old artwork:
http://ext.disneycomics.dk/oldstuff.jpg , printed in Vienna, supposedly
sometime in the early 1930-s.

Does anyone know anything about this? Or have a clue about who drew it?

Lillian wrote to me:
> ....I know the characters were to be used for children's paper scraps,
> because that is what my Grandfather's printing factory >did. What beats
> me is who and how anyone knew of all the characters in the early 1930's
> and why not draw them as they had seen >them on film if they were to be
> recognized by children and why not as cartoon characters? The factory
> did not have its own >artist.

/ole
Rob Klein
Those early/mid 1930s character drawings look to me like the style used
in The British Disney publications of that time. They look similar to the
characters on the British-drawn covers for books and magazines, and for
the newspaper comic
strip.

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David Gerstein
Hey Ole,

> I was recently asked about the origin of this funny old artwork:
> http://ext.disneycomics.dk/oldstuff.jpg , printed in Vienna, supposedly
> sometime in the early 1930-s.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this? Or have a clue about who drew it?
>
It's definitely not Disney-licensed artwork, that's all I can say... Moving on to the comments from the image's contributor,

> > What beats
> > me is who and how anyone knew of all the characters in the early 1930's
>
Er... because they were very well-known, even then? The art appears to date from about 1935, when a feature-length Disney short subject revue had just been appearing in German-speaking countries.
>
> > and why not draw them as they had seen them on film
>
Looks to me like the artist was trying hard, but perhaps going from memory or from notes taken during a cinema viewing. Mickey's hairy tail is inexcusable.
Interesting selection of characters, too... that appears to be a Funny Little Bunny (from the 1934 Silly Symphony) and the Flying Mouse at the bottom right. And the cow does not look like a Disney figure, unless perhaps someone confused Clarabelle with Borden dairies' Elsie mascot.

David
Gunnarsson, Joakim SE - HMJ
Funniest thing about these are that she apparently thinks she's got the
copyright to these images. :)

/Joakim.
http://sekvenskonst.blogspot.com
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