Keskustelujen arkisto

Hi all,

I've always tried to figure out who exactly the indexers are and what
they look like. Now I know:

http://raptus.dk/inducks-plus-helpers.jpg

Question now is, who is who?! ;-)

S?ren

First off, congratulations to Gemstone and the Gemstone creators for so many 2007 Harvey nominees!!! I must admit that I was surprised, but *thrilled* that Gemstone got as much recognition as it did! It is not that I think Gemstone is unworthy of such acclaim, it is simply that I am not used to it! So perhaps these nominations (and hopefully a few wins!) will get Gemstone more attention which it rightly deserves! Plus, since it is held at the Baltimore Comic-Con, if Don wins any awards he will be right there to accept them!

A few quick questions for anyone at Gemstone. One, why did you change the inside front cover of US and WDC&S to only contain the contents of this issue plus a preview of the next issues? I must say that I really miss hearing John Clark's comments on what was in the issue or any other Disney comics related subjects. While this is a very minor issue, count me down for bringing the inside front covers back to the way they were.

Two, are we going to continue for a long time to see 3 rows for page stories that I assume were planned for DDA and MMA before they were cancelled? While I do miss DDA and MMA, I must admit that I didn't enjoy these stories as much as the more "traditional" ones we normally sees in Gemstone titles. Is this a case of printing stories that were already prepared before DDA and MMA were cancelled? If so, I can understand that. However, once these stories have been printed, I hope we do not see more of them in the years to come in US and WDC&S. With only 128 pages a month now, I think Gemstone should focus on printing the best of the best, and in my humble opinion, most of the 3 panel stories are not at that level. What do other list members think about this. Of course, this does not include some classic stories by creators such as Scarpa and others. I was very happy to see "The Great Gawrsh-Durn Champion" by Scarpa in the latest issue of WDC&S, and hope to see a lot more Scarpa in the months and years to come.

Three, are there any updates about the future of Gemstone in 2008 and beyond? I am sure I not the only one who misses getting 5 Gemstone comics each month! :( I am hoping that 2007 is a transition year for Gemstone and that Gemstone will print many more stories, pages, publications, etc. in 2008 than it did in 2007. Is a B/W "Shonen Jump" style title still being considered? (a great place for stories that used to be printed in MMA and DDA). Will there be more than 2 TPBs by Gemstone in 2008? Any chance of a Barks or Rosa TPB library? Is there any consideration to starting a third monthly prestige title comic in 2008? Please!!! :)

Whatever anyone at Gemstone can answer no matter how little or small would be greatly appreciated. I truly enjoy my Gemstone comics each and every month -- I just wish there was more to enjoy each month, and hopefully 2008 will bring it!

Dean Rekich

Hey Tim,

> When I came to the British series "The Disney magazine", I got
> completely lost.
>
> I have an issue number 9 and an issue number 16 which are
> absolutely identical [...] Apart from that, I have another number
> 16, which is different from the number 16 mentioned above.
>
> Can someone explain this mistery of numbering to me ?

DISNEY MAGAZINE is a very confusing series. Even working within
Egmont, I had trouble figuring the publication schedule out. But I
finally managed to do it.

From 1982-1983, the first series was dated by month. They came out
in February, March, and May through December 1982; then January to
March 1983. Translating this to month numbers, you get a series that
is numbered 2, 3, 5-12, and then 1-3. The month and year references
on the physical comics is the only way to figure out the order
properly. There are seventeen issues in all.

In 1983 the second series began, numbered only by issue. It ran from
1-7 as a monthly title, and then split into TWO titles for awhile, as
follows:
? In some parts of the UK (or only certain shops? I'm not sure!),
the original DISNEY MAGAZINE continued with issue 8 onward, published
on a monthly schedule as before.
? In other parts of the UK, THE DISNEY MAGAZINE WEEKLY EDITION 8-23
were published. This was the official title of the series at Egmont,
but I recollect that the books themselves give no evidence that they
are different from their parent except for the dates on them and
perhaps a "published weekly" indication somewhere.
Every fourth issue of WEEKLY EDITION corresponded directly to one of
the concurrent monthly series. This is why your issue 9 (of the
monthly series) has an identical number 16 (from the weekly series!).

Eventually, WEEKLY EDITION was cancelled; evidently, the monthly
version was selling better. But some years later, the monthly did
begin to be published more than once a month, ultimately being
replaced with a weekly book.

Best, David

--
David Gerstein
ramapith at mail.dk ? ramapith at verizon.net
http://www.cartoonresearch.com/gerstein

S?ren Krarup Olesen wrote:
> > Hoy Murphy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> With 86 Don Rosa stories floating around out there, Gemstone has just
>> >> got to get around to publishing a complete collection of the Don Rosa
>> >> library.
>> >>
>> >> Hoy Murphy
> >
> > To be honest with you, Hoy, I can think of so many other complete
> > collections that I'd like to own--apart from Barks I mean... :-)

Me, likewise. Paul Murry seems to be an obvious choice, or some complete
collections of ... Don Rosas stories are availble in lots of reprints
already so getting a complete collection should be pretty easy. Besides,
it makes no sense to me to make a "complete collection" of a person's
work, when that person is still working.

Best,
Mads

>From: "deanmary" <deanmary at zoominternet.net>
>To: <dcml at nafsk.se>
>Subject: A few Gemstone comments and questions
>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:41:29 -0500
>

**snip snip snip snip snip**

>I was very happy to see "The Great Gawrsh-Durn Champion" by Scarpa in the
>latest issue of WDC&S, and hope to see a lot more Scarpa in the months and
>years to come.
>

I had a wonderful time doing the dialoge for that. I'm glad you liked it :)

Jonathan H. Gray

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>From: Santiago Garc?a <saturno3x1 at yahoo.es>
>To: dcml at nafsk.se
>Subject: Disney's DuckTales By Marv Wolfman
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:56:41 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Hello, everyone:
>
>I just noticed this news from Amazon: A DuckTales
>adventure by Marv Wolfman, for Gemstone. Would anyone
>tell me how is it like?
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Disneys-DuckTales-Marv-Wolfman-Scrooges/dp/1888472839
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Santiago.
>
>

"Scrooge's Quest" was the first of the 3 major Duck Tales serials. The
second one being "The Gold Odyssey" and the last being "A Dime in Time". The
final one was condensed into two parts (probably due to the implosion) but
the latter two reflected Disney's attempts to try and interject on-going
continuity into the Disney series while maintaining standalone stories.
UNLIKE Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers (which I think mastered this to SOME
extent), the two major Duck Tales stories were each 7 parts long and had a
definitive beginning and ending.

Think of them like...remember how the TV show had "Treasure of the Golden
Suns", "Super Ducktales", and "Time Is Money" as large multipart storylines?
Think of "Scrooge's Quest" and "The Gold Odyssey" as comic book style
stories of that.

As a little kid I read "The Gold Odyssey" first - in its entirety - and fell
in love with it. Perhaps this is nostalgia talking but I felt it to be the
far more coherent one of the two. It's stories segued well into each other
and even if they went off onto thier own tangents there was a sense of
fluidity in the saga as a whole. Of the two stories, my personal opinion is
that TGO is the better one. On the opposite end of the spectrum, "Scrooge's
Quest" felt isjointed and "patched together" in spots - namely because two
of the subchapters - "Shipwrecked" and "Down But Not Out in Duckburg" felt
very tacked on and out of place. Kinda like they were inserted into the
story as filler. Furthermore Magica seems out of character in spots (even
for Ducktales) and Scrooge's incessant obsession over Webby after her
kidnapping (which serves as the first major climax/focus of the story) feels
very out of place.

A lot of that had to do with the writers of the two stories. Marv Wolfman is
lesser known in Disney circles but is a HEAVY HITTER for Marvel/DC due to
his work on the 80's version of Teen Titans, currently on Nightwing. That's
probably why Scrooge's Quest was chosen over The Gold Odyssey but I can't be
sure. he practically redefined all of those characters and its his template
was used to define the characters in the cartoon. I can guess that a lot of
casual Disney comics readers were like "WHAT? MARV WOLFMAN WROTE A
SCROOGE/DUCKTALES SERIAL?!?! OMGWTFBBQPRINTITNOW!?!!?!?!?!" and Gemstone
responded.

I'm actually glad they did. It's not a bad story at all. To its credit -
more so than TGO - it even has references to several of Barks' classic
stories largely in one of the "filler pieces" I mentioned above. Don't go in
expecting "Life and Times" but for what it is, I'd say that for an inaugural
piece from someone not normally associated with Disney its pretty decent.
Characterization is off in spots, and its disjointed, but decent. TGO was
written by Bob Langhans who was something of a Disney veteran I believe. And
I think that by the time SQ finished, Disney had figured out a little bit
better as to what worked and what didn't and why it fared a lot better when
it came to reviews from readers. I'm hoping that should this succeed,
Gemstone would opt to reprint it in trade format. I like seeing something
different like this coming down the pike from them along with the classic
stuff once in a while and fully support it.

It's not my favorite story to come down the pike from that period, and there
are far better ones I'd love to see in trades, but its a decent one to start
with and especially one of the harder stories of that era to find complete
in back issue sets.

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Can someone tell me how Daan Jippes last name is
pronounced? ("Yips" or "Yip-pas"?)

Thank you.

Best,

Eric

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Dean:

Concerning the one question of yours that I have some capacity to
answer:

> Two, are we going to continue for a long time to see 3 rows for
> page stories that I assume were planned for DDA and MMA before they
> were cancelled?

A fair stockpile of 3-tier stories were acquired for DDA and MMA
before the two titles were cancelled. These stories represent a
sizable investment (and are not "returnable"). While we don't see
using them in WDC and US as an optimum solution, we also don't see
any sense in just leaving them sitting on the shelf.

I agree that not all of these stories are gems, but I do think they
get short-shrift in general from some readers simply because they
don't conform to the more familiar 4-tier format, which does have a
definite effect on the look, pacing and narrative construction of a
tale.

Gary