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Ola Martinsson
Hi !

I was just wondering if anyone can tell me what is a fair market value for this collection ?

Ola in cloudy Stockholm +6

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:20:05 GMT
From: "jerryblake2 at juno.com" <jerryblake2 at juno.com>
Subject: Complete Mickey
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I realize that this may be a question without a satisfying answer, but does anyone know if there are any copies of the limited edition Complete Floyd Gottfredson Mickey Mouse book (daily strips from 1930 to 1955) still available for sale? I've heard the book used to be carried by a German company called Dreidreizehn's, but they don't offer it anymore. Any information will be greatly appreciated.
Scott
Hello,I came across your post for this item with a link for it listed on ebay.  From what I can tell this was posted in 2001.  I am curious to your experience with selling this item.  I myself have #12 of 12 that I purchased at the SanDiego ComicCon in 1994 from the same people.  I was contemplating selling it but have yet to research what it is worth and thought you might have some insight.  I also thought it was pretty cool to find something on the web about it being that it is such a limited run.Thank you for your time,Scott
Dux
Unfortunately, the ever-increasing electronic takeover of our kids' world will not allow comics (especially Disney comics) to be around for many more years. At least in the U.S.A.

---- Cord Wiljes <cord at wiljes.de> wrote:
> I remember a study in which Chinese native speakers read Chinese Texts to
> very young (<1y) children. Later in life the children were able to speak
> Chinese sounds which were not part of their own language, even though they
> never learned Chinese. When the same experiment was repeated with records
> instead of human readers no effect was found. So the human interaction
> (emotion!) seems to be absolutely essential for motivation and learning even
> (or especially) at this young age.
>
> I have repeatedly heard from adults who had never read comic books in their
> own childhood that they had serious problems reading comics now because they
> did not know where to start or how to preceed. They had not learned the
> "language" of comics at an early age.
>
> I believe comics are very good source of reading material for children
> because they have pictures which is very important, the feature recognizable
> characters, and they have the appeal of "not just for kids" which marks most
> great childrens' books. I have read Donald Duck and Asterix to the children
> of friends and they liked it very much. And once the children start learning
> to read you can alternate: The adult reads the first panel and the child the
> second one.
>
> I also noticed how much children, even at the youngest age, recognize and
> appreciate quality. Not only do they instinctively prefer Barks' stories
> over others' but they even know which Barks stories they like best. They are
> very good critics.
>
> Cord
Schulte
Greetings!

Paper comic books, like newspapers, may indeed not be around by the end of the century. I recently saw an advertisement on TV about the iPad from Apple: something like that might preserve the idea of a comic book for the future.

On the other hand, children might wonder why the cartoons don't move, and why they have to read the story, rather than watching and listening passively.

We will see what happens to literacy in this century: one would think that it would be increasing, and be seen as more important than ever. But as a teacher I can tell you that reading ability is declining.

American literary critic Sven Birkerts wrote a rather pessimistic analysis of the "future of reading in an electronic age" in 1996 called The Gutenberg Elegies.

See:

Gutenberg Elegies

Best Wishes!

L. Schulte
Guy Lapointe
I agree with Dux, I have witnessed the same with fellow teachers among the less fortunate classes. Our obversations are that many children are raised (or baby sat) by the tv sets. Unfortunately, unlike the fifties/sixties when the 4:00 to 6:00 tv programmation was reserved for kid-friendly shows (remember Mickey Mouse Club, Sesame Street, Mr Rogers...), it has been replaced by Oprah, Ricky Lake, Judge Judy, Dr. Phil, Charlie Rose) each trying to outdo themselves with gorier and weirder stories of family disasters & disruption.

There is a huge difference in the "peace level" and the "education level" (i.e. the basic knowledge base) of my students from 20 years ago to now - for the worse
Comics can be a powerful tool to help students learn on their own if the parents are not involved - observations made in the USA.

Thank you, L

From: dux at ca.rr.com
CC: notebook at wiljes.de
To: dcml at nafsk.se; abeenget at online.no; cord at wiljes.de; TheGuy at drawson.com
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:44:28 +0000
Subject: [SPG,Suspected,pattern=3.60]Re: Disney Sales

Unfortunately, the ever-increasing electronic takeover of our kids' world will not allow comics (especially Disney comics) to be around for many more years. At least in the U.S.A.

Cord Wiljes <cord at wiljes.de> wrote:
I remember a study in which Chinese native speakers read Chinese Texts to
very young (<1y) children. Later in life the children were able to speak
Chinese sounds which were not part of their own language, even though they
never learned Chinese. When the same experiment was repeated with records
instead of human readers no effect was found. So the human interaction
(emotion!) seems to be absolutely essential for motivation and learning even
(or especially) at this young age.

I have repeatedly heard from adults who had never read comic books in their
own childhood that they had serious problems reading comics now because they
did not know where to start or how to preceed. They had not learned the
"language" of comics at an early age.

I believe comics are very good source of reading material for children because they have pictures which is very important, the feature recognizable characters, and they have the appeal of "not just for kids" which marks most great childrens' books. I have read Donald Duck and Asterix to the children of friends and they liked it very much. And once the children start learning to read you can alternate: The adult reads the first panel and the child the second one.

I also noticed how much children, even at the youngest age, recognize and appreciate quality. Not only do they instinctively prefer Barks' stories over others' but they even know which Barks stories they like best. They are very good critics.
Cord
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