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Francesco Spreafico
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 14:32, Olivier <mouse-ducks at orange.fr> wrote:

> Has anyone who has seen the movie (I?m just back from it?and lunch) thought
> like me that one of the final scenes was reminiscent of a very famous scene
> in one of? Barks? classic stories?

Yes, I thought the same thing!

> I loved the movie (and am now listening to John Williams? score again?I
> received it yesterday).

Me too!

--
Francesco
Lawrence Giver
I'm re-reading this story, which begins in Scrooge's trophy room. On the first page, panel 4, Donald is dusting a statue of a jewel-studded gold eagle. Almost everything in this room comes from previous stories, but I have no idea what story this gold eagle came from. Does anyone know?
---------Larry Giver.
Matt Yaklin
Well I racked my brain for 15 minutes and could not think of
the answer. Decided trying to find the page online would be
easier then going through boxes of comics so here it is:

http://neamar.fr/Res/DUCK/Story-The%20Crown%20Of%20The%20Crusader%20Kings

I will freely admit some of the trophies are obvious. The goose egg
nugget, the candy striped ruby, etc...

But some are so generic I would not even begin where to guess like the
jar full of gold coins. One or two are so crudely drawn in the back
ground I can barely tell what it is (looks like an armored knight's
helmet, i think, for example).

But that eagle, ?hawk?, is so predominant I would be shocked to find
out it had no meaning. By 2001, I cannot imagine Rosa drawing anything
that significant that was not referenced in an earlier story...

So color me curious. I have no idea and now want to find out also.

matt

On Sun, 6 Nov 2011, Lawrence Giver wrote:

> I'm re-reading this story, which begins in Scrooge's trophy room. On the first page, panel 4, Donald is dusting a statue of a jewel-studded gold eagle. Almost everything in this room comes from previous stories, but I have no idea what story this gold eagle came from. Does anyone know?
> ---------Larry Giver.
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Mattias Hallin
I would have thought that that'd be a reference to the Maltese Falcon of
film fame *and* with crusader connection ("In 1539 the Knight Templars
of Malta, paid tribute to Charles V of Spain, by sending him a Golden
Falcon encrusted from beak to claw with rarest jewels -- but
pirates seized the galley carrying this priceless token and the fate of
the Maltese Falcon remains a mystery to this day --?Introductory text
appearing after the film's opening credits" [copied from Wikipedia:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_Falcon_(film_1941>)])
/Mattias
Mattias Hallin ? Brussels ? Belgium ? <cmhallin at susbus.be>
"Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar!
A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!"
Ola Martinsson
Hi !

In the latest issue of Swedish Kalle Anka there is a story (very good story actually) where the Beagle boys is alone in the money bin. One of the scenes is in a memory room with different paintings on the wall. They depict scenes where the money bin cracks. One is when the water that it's filled with freese and cracks it. Another is from the giant robot robbers. Both by Barks.

But then the third one is where Magica has transformed the money bin to gold and it collapses because of this. It also looks like Barks but I think that I would have remembered the story if that was the case.
Does anyone know what story this is ?

Ola in cloudy Stockholm +9
Fabio Blanco
Of course, is The Maltese Falcon, but looks very different from the
one you see in the credits of the movie because...
Sorry no spoilers. Go to the Dashiell Hammet book or the wonderful
movie by John Huston, the first movie where Humphrey Bogart don't die.

Fabio

2011/11/7 Mattias Hallin <cmhallin at susbus.be>:
> I would have thought that that'd be a reference to the Maltese Falcon of
> film fame *and* with crusader connection ("In 1539 the Knight Templars of
> Malta, paid tribute to Charles V of Spain, by sending him a Golden Falcon
> encrusted from beak to claw with rarest jewels -- but
> pirates seized the galley carrying this priceless token and the fate of the
> Maltese Falcon remains a mystery to this day --?Introductory text appearing
> after the film's opening credits" [copied from Wikipedia:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_Falcon_(film_1941)])
>
> /Mattias
>
> Mattias Hallin ? Brussels ? Belgium ? <cmhallin at susbus.be>
> "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar!
> A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!"
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
Joseph Adorno
The jewel-encrusted falcon that Donald is dusting in Crown of the Crusader Kings is indeed The Maltese Falcon of Dashiell Hammett's novel and the 1941 film adaptation. In the film, the falcon turned out to be a fake copy, but here we see what it should have looked like when the black enamel was removed. Nice inside joke, or maybe a reference to the greatest Uncle Scrooge story never told...;)
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Incidently, I find it odd that the Sydney Greenstreet character thought all he needed to do was scrape the enamel away with a common pen knife - wouldn't that knife have done damaged to the gold and jewels? Scrape,scrape,scrape.
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Film/Television references appear often in Don Rosa stories. Citizen Kane, Frank Capra movies, Jimmy Stewart westerns, even kid shows like Marvin Monkey and Talespin. No video games, though...:) You'd think Don would sneak in a Pac-Man or Donkey Kong reference - or the Duck Tales video game, since that appears to exist there as an unauthorized bio of Scrooge.
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Hf
Ola:

> But then the third one is where Magica has transformed the money bin to
gold
> and it collapses because of this. It also looks like Barks but I think
that I would
> have remembered the story if that was the case.
> Does anyone know what story this is ?

Might this be a colouring mistake? Maybe the money bin is made of *glass*
and collapses because of a bird's sound (a Tanganyika yeeker)?

--Harry.
Gerd Syllwasschy
> But then the third one is where Magica has transformed the money bin to gold and it collapses because of this. It also looks like Barks but I think that I would have remembered the story if that was the case.
> Does anyone know what story this is ?

This may refer to "Obsession" (D/D 2006-019), written by Byron Erickson
and drawn by Daan Jippes - a story which contains many Barks references
itself.

Gerd
Stefan Persson
On 2011-11-08 12:47, hf at inducks wrote:
> Ola:
>
>> But then the third one is where Magica has transformed the money bin to
> gold
>> and it collapses because of this. It also looks like Barks but I think
> that I would
>> have remembered the story if that was the case.
>> Does anyone know what story this is ?
>
> Might this be a colouring mistake? Maybe the money bin is made of *glass*
> and collapses because of a bird's sound (a Tanganyika yeeker)?

No. It also says that it's gold in the text.

Stefan
Benjamiun
Hello Mr. Rosa. I am a huge fan of you. I want to be even later cartoonists.
Your Character style is very well. I hope you still draw more comics.

Greetings Benjamin Steidl

P.S. I am from Germany
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