> Just as it would be very interesting to know what Donald's *real*
> answer in the last panel of WDC 152 to the talking dog's "Times are
> tough, huh, bud?". Not "You're not kiddin'!" which again has been
> lettered distictively different.
"Kiddin'," as well as the Y in "You're," look like Barks' own
lettering.
I suspect the original answer, as broken-up by line within the voice
balloon, was
You
ain't a-
kiddin'!
...where the edit appears to have been done to improve Donald's
grammar.
There are a lot of rather obvious reletterings in Barks comics from
the late 1940s onward. Here are a few that have always caught my eye.
In "Ghost of the Grotto," unless I'm forgetting something, every last
reference to the armored man as a "ghost" are lettered in by Carl
Buettner. The actual "Ghost of the Grotto" lettered title in the
story's opening panel, and the story's entire opening caption, are
lettered by Buettner, too.
It seems like all of the story's ghost references, including in the
title, were added by someone other than Barks.
Starting with the second BRER RABBIT Four Color (OS 208), extreme
Southern dialect in some Disney comics was softened in the editing: so
the published "the," "that," and "then" were originally lettered as
"de," "dat," and "den," with the "th" being crammed into a space where
only a "d" previously stood.
This becomes significant for Barks because it also affects "Lost in
the Andes"; in the giant SFX that spells out "Theah they blows!" on
page 29, one can see from the lettering and spacing that "Deah dey
blows!" was originally intended.
In "Back to the Klondike," the surviving four panels of the original
Page 16 are usually printed as pics 1, 2, 7, and 8 - where pics 3-6
are the 1980s interpolation by Barks and Jippes.
However, pic 2 contains an interesting clue as to what the original
page may have been like. Donald has just told Scrooge that Goldie
skipped town. In pic 2, Scrooge screams at Huey "Wouldn't you know it!
Someone owes you a billion dollars, /and/ they skip town *every* time!"
The word "and" has been added in a non-Barks hand, with the voice
balloon roughly expanded underneath it so we can tell there was
originally no word in the balloon at that point.
The only reason for this particular line of dialogue to lack an "and"
would be that it originally functioned quite differently on the page,
and in my mind this relates to the otherwise unexplained fact that
Scrooge screams at *Huey* - when as published, the bringer of bad
tidings one panel earlier was Donald.
It's not hard to imagine the page working like this:
Pic 1 [theoretical]
Scrooge: "And that's the last I saw of Glittering Goldie! If she's
still around today, I wonder if..."
Pic 2
Donald: Hey! I've been talking to some old-timers! They say Goldie
left town years ago and hasn't been seen since!
Pic 3 [theoretical]
Huey: She musta skipped town 'cause she still owed you *money!*
People do that sometimes!
Pic 4
Scrooge: Wouldn't you know it! Somebody owes you a *billion* dollars,
they skip town *every* time!
(And then imagine pics 5 through 8 as a more extended version of what
we see as pics 7 and 8 today. Present pic 7 looks like it may have
been cut down from a double-width...)
--
David Gerstein
ramapith at gmail.com
http://www.cartoonresearch.com/gerstein
http://ramapithblog.blogspot.com
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David Gerstein
Times are tough
Message 1 -
2012-05-07 at 08:04:22
Arie Fachrisal
Disney FCBD
Message 2 -
2012-05-07 at 15:51:10
Hello,
Anybody in this list can help me get FCBD duck issues? i would also
like to get my hands on past FCBD disney issues, and some of
non-Disney FCBD issues this year. Can pay with paypal, if you're a
store that can get me those, that's just swell coz im having a hard
time finding a good price AND good s/h cost from eBay.
thanks,
Arie Fachrisal
Anybody in this list can help me get FCBD duck issues? i would also
like to get my hands on past FCBD disney issues, and some of
non-Disney FCBD issues this year. Can pay with paypal, if you're a
store that can get me those, that's just swell coz im having a hard
time finding a good price AND good s/h cost from eBay.
thanks,
Arie Fachrisal
UNDBKB
FCBD
Message 3 -
2012-05-08 at 18:19:55
Hello,
Anybody in this list can help me get FCBD duck issues? i would also
like to get my hands on past FCBD disney issues, and some of
non-Disney FCBD issues this year. Can pay with paypal, if you're a
store that can get me those, that's just swell coz im having a hard
time finding a good price AND good s/h cost from eBay.
thanks,
Arie Fachrisal
Send me a personal email, I can help.
_undbkb at aol.com_ (mailto:undbkb at aol.com)
Barry Branvold
Anybody in this list can help me get FCBD duck issues? i would also
like to get my hands on past FCBD disney issues, and some of
non-Disney FCBD issues this year. Can pay with paypal, if you're a
store that can get me those, that's just swell coz im having a hard
time finding a good price AND good s/h cost from eBay.
thanks,
Arie Fachrisal
Send me a personal email, I can help.
_undbkb at aol.com_ (mailto:undbkb at aol.com)
Barry Branvold
Arie Fachrisal
Looking for certain poster + carl barks olgemalde
Message 4 -
2012-05-17 at 01:24:59
Hi,
anybody knows whose art on this poster?
http://images.cloud.worthpoint.com/wpimages/images/images1/1/0709/20/1_e1e6211bbef38e55da5f540f625827fb.jpg
this particular poster intrigues me because it's similar to Barks' oil
painting style, but it isnt Barks.
i am also looking for 1 of it to purchase if anyone knows where to get 1.
also looking for:
Carl Barks olgemalde 1998, 1999
Helnwein "Donald Duck sitting with a comic book and Daisy cup" poster
no luck thru dreidreizehn or ebay.de, figures i try here in dcml who
knows anyone still got and willing to part for reasonable price.
thank you,
Arie Fachrisal
cien2 at cbn.net.id
anybody knows whose art on this poster?
http://images.cloud.worthpoint.com/wpimages/images/images1/1/0709/20/1_e1e6211bbef38e55da5f540f625827fb.jpg
this particular poster intrigues me because it's similar to Barks' oil
painting style, but it isnt Barks.
i am also looking for 1 of it to purchase if anyone knows where to get 1.
also looking for:
Carl Barks olgemalde 1998, 1999
Helnwein "Donald Duck sitting with a comic book and Daisy cup" poster
no luck thru dreidreizehn or ebay.de, figures i try here in dcml who
knows anyone still got and willing to part for reasonable price.
thank you,
Arie Fachrisal
cien2 at cbn.net.id
NIKOS PANAGIOTOPOYLOS
Does anyone want a cartoon character from me this summer?
Message 5 -
2012-05-17 at 15:50:23
Hi my hobby is to draw cartoon characters and this hobby is not connected with my profession.
My job does not allow me to draw anything associated with cartoons,?
but??maybe?this summer ?I will draw some characters for everyone if I have some?time.
The problem is that I don t know which character to draw and I don t like to draw for myself.?
So if anyone wants a character ?ask me which character you want, and what pose do you like
and perhaps I will send it to you by email ?in a .jpg ?file for free.
Every picture also will be uploaded in my personal gallery in the following link.
http://www.wix.com/npanag_2/eikon2
So, if you ask me more drawings I will have more drawings in my personal collection.
And you will get some drawings?in.jpg?for free by email. I repeat cartoons is my hobby,
my real job is Engineering.
Thank you
Nikos
My job does not allow me to draw anything associated with cartoons,?
but??maybe?this summer ?I will draw some characters for everyone if I have some?time.
The problem is that I don t know which character to draw and I don t like to draw for myself.?
So if anyone wants a character ?ask me which character you want, and what pose do you like
and perhaps I will send it to you by email ?in a .jpg ?file for free.
Every picture also will be uploaded in my personal gallery in the following link.
http://www.wix.com/npanag_2/eikon2
So, if you ask me more drawings I will have more drawings in my personal collection.
And you will get some drawings?in.jpg?for free by email. I repeat cartoons is my hobby,
my real job is Engineering.
Thank you
Nikos
UNDBKB
Image, olgemalde, Helnwein
Message 6 -
2012-05-17 at 17:52:31
Arie writes
anybody knows whose art on this poster?
http://images.clou
d.worthpoint.com/wpimages/images/images1/1/0709/20/1_e1e6211bbef38e55da5f540f625827fb.jpg
this particular poster intrigues me because it's similar to Barks' oil
painting style, but it isn't Barks.
I am also looking for 1 of it to purchase if anyone knows where to get 1.
also looking for:
Carl Barks olgemalde 1998, 1999
Helnwein "Donald Duck sitting with a comic book and Daisy cup" poster
I couldn't get this image as the web site would not allow me in.
and for you English speakers, I found out what olgemalde is, it's a
calendar in German obviously from 1998 and 1999 and Helnwein is a 64 year old
Austrian artist.
Possibly I am the only one on the list who was confused.
Barry Branvold
anybody knows whose art on this poster?
http://images.clou
d.worthpoint.com/wpimages/images/images1/1/0709/20/1_e1e6211bbef38e55da5f540f625827fb.jpg
this particular poster intrigues me because it's similar to Barks' oil
painting style, but it isn't Barks.
I am also looking for 1 of it to purchase if anyone knows where to get 1.
also looking for:
Carl Barks olgemalde 1998, 1999
Helnwein "Donald Duck sitting with a comic book and Daisy cup" poster
I couldn't get this image as the web site would not allow me in.
and for you English speakers, I found out what olgemalde is, it's a
calendar in German obviously from 1998 and 1999 and Helnwein is a 64 year old
Austrian artist.
Possibly I am the only one on the list who was confused.
Barry Branvold
Arie Fachrisal
DCML Digest, Vol 108, Issue 3
Message 7 -
2012-05-17 at 18:07:26
if the linkie doesnt work, please try this instead , thanks
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/walt-disneys-uncle-crooge-scrooge-77902011
cheers,
Arie Fachrisal
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/walt-disneys-uncle-crooge-scrooge-77902011
cheers,
Arie Fachrisal
Dan Shane
$crooge Poster
Message 8 -
2012-05-18 at 14:58:08
BARRY BRANVOLD interposed:
I couldn't get this image as the web site would not allow me in.
and for you English speakers, I found out what olgemalde is, it's a calendar
in German obviously from 1998 and 1999 and Helnwein is a 64 year old
Austrian artist.
Possibly I am the only one on the list who was confused.
AND I REPLY:
No, I was also ignorant until you boldly made the identification for me.
As to the poster, I have it framed an proudly displayed on my wall. I
purchased it at Walt Disney World about 20 years ago, but I have no idea who
the artist is. It was found in a bin of Disney character posters that were
sold at standard retail prices, not as limited edition collectibles. I paid
the going rate, about $6.00.
I couldn't get this image as the web site would not allow me in.
and for you English speakers, I found out what olgemalde is, it's a calendar
in German obviously from 1998 and 1999 and Helnwein is a 64 year old
Austrian artist.
Possibly I am the only one on the list who was confused.
AND I REPLY:
No, I was also ignorant until you boldly made the identification for me.
As to the poster, I have it framed an proudly displayed on my wall. I
purchased it at Walt Disney World about 20 years ago, but I have no idea who
the artist is. It was found in a bin of Disney character posters that were
sold at standard retail prices, not as limited edition collectibles. I paid
the going rate, about $6.00.
Jan Erik Hedberg
Helnwein oilpaintings
Message 9 -
2012-05-18 at 23:36:16
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. image, olgemalde, Helnwein (UNDBKB at aol.com)
> "...and for you English speakers, I found out what olgemalde is, it's a
> calendar in German obviously from 1998 and 1999 and Helnwein is a 64 year
> old Austrian artist.Barry Branvold..."
>
> Olgemalde is actually/?lgem?lde/ which is German for "Oilpainted"
> In 1984 he painted Donald in a coffy chair, reading a WDC&S along with a cup-a-coffey.
> It was as a celebration of Donalds 50th anniversary...
>
> Took a picture of mine - attached below.
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. image, olgemalde, Helnwein (UNDBKB at aol.com)
> "...and for you English speakers, I found out what olgemalde is, it's a
> calendar in German obviously from 1998 and 1999 and Helnwein is a 64 year
> old Austrian artist.Barry Branvold..."
>
> Olgemalde is actually/?lgem?lde/ which is German for "Oilpainted"
> In 1984 he painted Donald in a coffy chair, reading a WDC&S along with a cup-a-coffey.
> It was as a celebration of Donalds 50th anniversary...
>
> Took a picture of mine - attached below.
Gary Leach
Helnwein Painting
Message 10 -
2012-05-20 at 20:16:55
We had one of those prints up at the Another Rainbow/Gladstone offices. Would've loved to have had that beautiful black pupdog too!
Gary
> From: Jan Erik Hedberg <hedberg at cool.dk>
> Date: May 18, 2012 1:36:16 PM MST
> To: dcml at nafsk.se
> Subject: Re: Helnwein oilpaintings
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. image, olgemalde, Helnwein (UNDBKB at aol.com)
>> "...and for you English speakers, I found out what olgemalde is, it's a
>> calendar in German obviously from 1998 and 1999 and Helnwein is a 64 year
>> old Austrian artist.Barry Branvold..."
>>
>> Olgemalde is actually ?lgem?lde which is German for "Oilpainted"
>> In 1984 he painted Donald in a coffy chair, reading a WDC&S along with a cup-a-coffey.
>> It was as a celebration of Donalds 50th anniversary...
>>
>> Took a picture of mine - attached below.
>
> <Helnwein.jpg>
>
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Gary
> From: Jan Erik Hedberg <hedberg at cool.dk>
> Date: May 18, 2012 1:36:16 PM MST
> To: dcml at nafsk.se
> Subject: Re: Helnwein oilpaintings
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. image, olgemalde, Helnwein (UNDBKB at aol.com)
>> "...and for you English speakers, I found out what olgemalde is, it's a
>> calendar in German obviously from 1998 and 1999 and Helnwein is a 64 year
>> old Austrian artist.Barry Branvold..."
>>
>> Olgemalde is actually ?lgem?lde which is German for "Oilpainted"
>> In 1984 he painted Donald in a coffy chair, reading a WDC&S along with a cup-a-coffey.
>> It was as a celebration of Donalds 50th anniversary...
>>
>> Took a picture of mine - attached below.
>
> <Helnwein.jpg>
>
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