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Hi Timo,

> there anybody there, who could provide me a scan of a specific panel

That's the page you're looking for:
http://www.papersera.net/appo/preWarBonBons.png

While you (or anyone else) are here, consider to participate to the current
Papersera survey, aimed to decide the best Scarpa story: after a long run,
where all his stories were voted.

We're now having the final showdown with "Topolino e la collana Chirikawa"
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http://www.papersera.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1453913288/0#0

Enjoy! :-)

- Paolo

> luring HDL with "Pre War Bon bons".

I was wondering: does "pre-war" mean "ancient", metaphorically, in English, as
it does in Greek? I find the idea of having a box proclaiming that it contains
pre-war bonbons quite funny. (Eating said bonbons is, of course, not funny at
all, which I assume is the reason for the modification in the story's reprint.)

Kriton.

It surely is joke about rationing. Pre-war goodies were better (sugar was the first item to be rationed straight from the 1942). Donald is hiding one box in his drawer. But in the end it would be silly to print "pre war" on the box produced before the war, when they didn't know if the war was coming :D (but of course it's just a silly sight gag).
Timo

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> From: cmhallin at susbus.be
> Subject: Re: Scan request
> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 15:20:47 +0100
> To: dcml at nafsk.se
>
> Kriton,
>
> No, I'd say it is either a rationing joke (candy is so rare during rationing that the only way you can still have bon-bons is for them to have been made before the war, i.e. before ingredients were rationed), or a joke on the often poorer quality of goods available under rationing, which often persisted into the post-war years (manufacturers who had figured out how to cut corners from necessity often kept rounding those corners even it was no longer strictly necessary, as it often saved money for them, and consumer expectations had been sufficiently lowered for them to get away with it).
>
> /Mattias
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>
> 1 feb. 2016 kl. 14:59 skrev Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at alumni.princeton.edu>:
>
> >> luring HDL with "Pre War Bon bons".
> >
> > I was wondering: does "pre-war" mean "ancient", metaphorically, in English, as it does in Greek? I find the idea of having a box proclaiming that it contains pre-war bonbons quite funny. (Eating said bonbons is, of course, not funny at all, which I assume is the reason for the modification in the story's reprint.)
> >
> > Kriton.
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I'd like to thank all the people who replied to my question.

Most people focused on discussing war-time rationing and why Donald's
bonbons dated from before the war. Perhaps I should have made it clear
that I already understood that.

My question still remains: does "pre-war" mean "ancient"
metaphorically in English, as it does in Greek?

We mustn't forget that older stories, when read by modern readers, can
be read in today's context. While "pre-war" meant one thing during the
war (e.g., pre-rationing, in the good old days of peace, etc.) it
could mean something entirely different (e.g., ancient) today, as it
does in Greek. While Donald's nephews would grab the opportunity to
devour the pre-war candy, as they did in the story, a modern child
would keep away from 75 year old candy, which would probably be
shriveled and moldy with mold that was shriveled and moldy itself. I
assume that this is the reason why the label on the box was modified
in later reprints of the story. Donald was trying to lure the kids
with the best candy available to him, not with stale and possibly
poisonous candy.

Kriton.

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GARY:

> World War II
> still looms far above any other conflict in terms of our perspective on
> history.

It's the same in Greece. "The" war is World War II, and "the" occupation is
the German occupation of 1941-1944, even though Greece had been under Turkish
occupation for centuries, and many would argue that, before the Turks, Greece
had been under Roman occupation for even more centuries.

Kriton.