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Per Starbäck
Thanks for even more thanks and testimonies to what the list has meant.
It is nice to hear, and it has meant a lot to me as well.

The net was such a different place back then when only a few people had
access to email. I remember that a long time ago (even before the DCML
existed) I posted paper mail to Dana Gabbard (then editor of fanzine The
Duckburg Times, now sadly deceased), and I included my email address on the
off chance he could use that.

My email adress back then was of an ancient format ? a UUCP "bang path" not
usable today ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Internet_email_address#Delivery_path .
Anyway, he didn't know what that was for, so he faithfully included it on a
line of the envelope of his (paper) answer to me, probably thinking that
Swedish zip codes looked really strange! :-)

Things have changed so much! More people getting access to email meant a
lot for international Disney comics fandom, and that eventually a mailing
list for that would be created was just a matter of time. I was glad to be
there, and to do that earlier than it would have happened otherwise. I had
thought about it for some time, but wasn't sure there would be enough
members or traffic to make it worthwhile.

One of the inspirations for thinking that it might work was the already
existing "ranger-list" about The Disney Afternoon on television, which I
joined even though I had limited exposure to most of the series discussed
there. That list was managed by Stephanie da Silva who also managed a list
of "Publicly Accessible Mailing Lists". It was nice to see our new list
"disney-comics" appear on that list!
https://groups.google.com/g/news.announce.newusers/c/HTygMSSoldI/m/Tkvrkv7RHJ8J
.

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disney-comics
Contact: disney-comics-request at studen.docs.uu.se (Per Starback)

Purpose: Discussion of Disney comics.
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The listing unfortunately had a typo in the email address, but after that
was fixed it surely led to many new subscribers finding the list. That
should instead be "student" in the email address ? I had access to that
system as a computer science student. The system administrator there was
very kind to set it up for me. Incidentally I happened to visit him
yesterday so I mentioned this and thanked him (again).

I'm rambling a bit here, and only about the very beginnings of the list.
Don Rosa joining the list in April 1993 was of course a big thing and had a
big impression on the list:
https://nafsk.se/pipermail/dcml/1993-April/date.html
And also having other professionals on the list, by joining or by becoming.

Anyway, see (some of) you later, somewhere else!
--
Per Starb?ck
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Pml_wil
Hello Per,
I just wanted to say thank you for your amazing efforts in organizing and sustaining this mailing list, which meant so much to so many of us "back in the day".? I doubt that many (if any at all) of the people who are reading this note will remember me, but reading and posting to the list were highlights of my leisure activities in the 1990s (along with reading Disney comics, of course!).? For the life of me I can't remember how I wound up belonging to the list - I had been wandering around the ARPAnet since the 1970s, as part of my job - but I am indeed grateful that it happened, since it allowed me to become part of an enthusiastic, knowledgeable, and talented fandom community!? I looked forward to each new digest, where I could learn so much about Disney comics history from experts such as Per and David Gerstein, enjoy the amazing insights and side-splitting humor from Harry Fluchs (I hope I am remembering his last name correctly), and of course appreciate the behind-the-scenes news from pros such as John Lustig and Don Rosa.? (I am of course omitting far too many names, of people whose contributions to the list were invaluable, so I apologize to any of them who may happen to read this.)
Two of my most memorable experiences in fandom occurred within a month or so of each other in 1996, first when I attended a 95th birthday dinner for Carl Barks at Diamond Comics (the only time I ever met Carl) and then when I was able to share memories (and bling) from that event at a breakfast get-together of about 20 DCML members (including letterer Todd Klein!) at the San Diego Comic-Con.? And of course I shall always be grateful to the list for its making it possible for me to have a role in the creation of a Disney comic book, when I was able to provide Don Rosa with some scientific guidance about how to get to the earth's core in the story that became "The Universal Solvent".? (I was a seismologist, so I was the DCML's resident expert on "Beneath the Ground".)? As thanks for my ideas, Don sent me the Xerox copies of his pencils for the story, and of course I would never have been able to experience that thrill if it were not for the List.? So I just wanted to express my thanks to Per for all that the DCML has meant to me, both as a reader and as a participant!

So it's time to say good-bye, but most of all to say "thanks".? You da' man, Per!!!
Best regards,Wilmer Rivers
Tommaso Bonini
> Thanks for even more thanks and testimonies to what the list has meant.
> It is nice to hear, and it has meant a lot to me as well.

My first post here is from November 2002. I used hotmail instead of gmail
(the latter wasn't a thing yet).
At that time a lot of people were very active (someone unfortunately is not
anymore with us), even Don Rosa would answer to questions! This is the last
mailing list I was subscribed to, truly a relic of a bygone era!

Thank you for your work and a cheer to all the friends made.

Yours, truly
Tommaso Bonini

On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 8:37?AM Per Starb?ck <699 at nafsk.se> wrote:

> Thanks for even more thanks and testimonies to what the list has meant.
> It is nice to hear, and it has meant a lot to me as well.
>
> The net was such a different place back then when only a few people had
> access to email. I remember that a long time ago (even before the DCML
> existed) I posted paper mail to Dana Gabbard (then editor of fanzine The
> Duckburg Times, now sadly deceased), and I included my email address on the
> off chance he could use that.
>
> My email adress back then was of an ancient format ? a UUCP "bang path"
> not usable today ?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Internet_email_address#Delivery_path .
> Anyway, he didn't know what that was for, so he faithfully included it on
> a line of the envelope of his (paper) answer to me, probably thinking that
> Swedish zip codes looked really strange! :-)
>
> Things have changed so much! More people getting access to email meant a
> lot for international Disney comics fandom, and that eventually a mailing
> list for that would be created was just a matter of time. I was glad to be
> there, and to do that earlier than it would have happened otherwise. I had
> thought about it for some time, but wasn't sure there would be enough
> members or traffic to make it worthwhile.
>
> One of the inspirations for thinking that it might work was the already
> existing "ranger-list" about The Disney Afternoon on television, which I
> joined even though I had limited exposure to most of the series discussed
> there. That list was managed by Stephanie da Silva who also managed a list
> of "Publicly Accessible Mailing Lists". It was nice to see our new list
> "disney-comics" appear on that list!
> https://groups.google.com/g/news.announce.newusers/c/HTygMSSoldI/m/Tkvrkv7RHJ8J
> .
>
> --------------------
> disney-comics
> Contact: disney-comics-request at studen.docs.uu.se (Per Starback)
>
> Purpose: Discussion of Disney comics.
> --------------------
>
> The listing unfortunately had a typo in the email address, but after that
> was fixed it surely led to many new subscribers finding the list. That
> should instead be "student" in the email address ? I had access to that
> system as a computer science student. The system administrator there was
> very kind to set it up for me. Incidentally I happened to visit him
> yesterday so I mentioned this and thanked him (again).
>
> I'm rambling a bit here, and only about the very beginnings of the list.
> Don Rosa joining the list in April 1993 was of course a big thing and had a
> big impression on the list:
> https://nafsk.se/pipermail/dcml/1993-April/date.html
> And also having other professionals on the list, by joining or by becoming.
>
> Anyway, see (some of) you later, somewhere else!
> --
> Per Starb?ck
> "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> _______________________________________________
> https://nafsk.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
Zeldas Triforce
I joined the DCML in 2003. After the "Golden Age" of the 90s, but it
didn't seem that way to me. It was great to be able to read the insights
of so many knowledgeable fans who came from so many different countries
and had such varied areas of expertise/interests.

It was amazing to be able to read the thoughts of and talk with creative
people such as Don Rosa, Gary Leach, Byron Erickson, David Gerstein,
Lars Jensen, Travis Seitler, Jonathan H. Gray and others.

Writers/historians such as Donald Ault, Alberto Beccatini, Frank Stajano
and Didier Ghez.

I think of fans such as Dan Shane, Eta Beta, Rob Klein, Francois Willot,
Gilles, Fernando Ventura, Fabio Blanco, Harry Fluks, Theresa Wiegert,
Steven Rowe, Kriton Kyrimis, Olivier, Mads Jensen, Stefan Persson, Kai
Saarto, Joe Torcivia, Katie Sullivan, and so many others.

Meeting and talking with Don Rosa at DragonCon, getting a few letters
published in some issues of the Gemstone run, sending Didier Ghez a
recording of a Floyd Gottfredson interview via FTP over a Disney Brazil
website, presenting a paper about Don Rosa's Captain Kentucky at an
academic conference, getting an English issue of the Finnish Donaldist
magazine from Timo Ronkainen, buying Another Rainbow Carl Barks Library
sets from Jim Chadwick. All things directly or indirectly due to the DCML.

It was a special place that will live on in the memories of those who
knew it.

Thanks for it all, Per!

Derek Smith
Nuno Silva
On 2024-08-01 17:32 +0200, Tommaso Bonini wrote:
> > Thanks for even more thanks and testimonies to what the list has meant.
> > It is nice to hear, and it has meant a lot to me as well.
>
> My first post here is from November 2002. I used hotmail instead of gmail
> (the latter wasn't a thing yet).
> At that time a lot of people were very active (someone unfortunately is not
> anymore with us), even Don Rosa would answer to questions! This is the last
> mailing list I was subscribed to, truly a relic of a bygone era!

Here I must be subscribed to at least a couple other lists and there are
a few more where I don't receive messages by e-mail but that is because
I'm subscribed to these using a network news to/from e-mail gateway.
(But that's probably just a sign that I'm into some technogical stuff?
:-) )

Well, if this message goes through (it's getting quite close to
midnight), let me thank those who have hosted and mantained this list
through the years, and of course also all subscribers.

I thought I had written some thanks words already in one of the replies
to "It is time!", but either I didn't or I can't find a message with
that now, so here goes: Thanks!

I didn't participate that much, but I'm thankful for this list and being
subscribed to it did and does make me happy :-)

> Thank you for your work and a cheer to all the friends made.
>
> Yours, truly
> Tommaso Bonini
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 8:37?AM Per Starb?ck <699 at nafsk.se> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for even more thanks and testimonies to what the list has meant.
> > It is nice to hear, and it has meant a lot to me as well.
> >
> > The net was such a different place back then when only a few people had
> > access to email. I remember that a long time ago (even before the DCML
> > existed) I posted paper mail to Dana Gabbard (then editor of fanzine The
> > Duckburg Times, now sadly deceased), and I included my email address on the
> > off chance he could use that.
[...]

--
Nuno Silva
Paolo Castagno
As I mentioned in my previous email, I had the pleasure of spending today
with friends from this list, talking about Disney comics and this very
mailing list.

Here's to all of you, my friends, who gave me the chance to meet such great
people.

Since I'm not sure if this list accepts attachments, here's a link to a
picture of us having a "light" lunch and enjoying a great session of the
board game ?Paperopoli ? Il grande gioco degli affari d?oro? (Duckburg ?
The great business game), which was the giveaway for Topolino subscribers
in 1973!

https://www.papersera.net/appo/gioco.jpg

https://www.papersera.net/appo/pranzo.jpg

Ciao,

-Paolo

Il giorno sab 27 lug 2024 alle ore 15:25 Paolo Castagno <paolo at papersera.net>
ha scritto:

> Not completely unexpected, but still a bit surprising.
>
> This mailing list has meant a lot to me ever since I read your message
> (probably back in late 1996) about Don Rosa, who was almost unknown to me
> at the time. I couldn?t believe a Disney author was available to chat with
> readers from all over the world. I was instantly fascinated, discovering
> that so many adults (I was ?just? 27) still read Disney comics, collected
> them, and discussed stories, authors, and issues.
> I started exchanging comics with people from France, the Netherlands,
> Brazil, the USA, Indonesia, and more, mostly thanks to the Italian edition
> of Life of Scrooge (https://www.inducks.org/issue.php?c=it%2FTD++++9). I
> still remember the look on the newsagent?s face when I bought all 15 copies
> he had!
>
> Through writing messages and sending/receiving comics, I made some great
> friendships. I've met many amazing people from the list. It would be rude
> to name just a few, so I won?t, except for Luca Boschi and Francesco
> Gerbaldo?Luca being the greatest Disney comics popularizer and Francesco
> the most genuine enthusiast. Sadly, neither of them are with us anymore,
> which is very, very sad.
>
> Since those early years, a lot has happened. I contributed to the Inducks
> project (then DcD), experimented with some websites, and eventually created
> the Papersera website almost 21 years ago, which is now the main reference
> for Disney enthusiasts in Italy. I also had the honor of being interviewed
> in the French Picsou Magazine a few months ago.
>
> So, once again, thank you, Per. Your work changed my life in many ways. If
> you?re ever in Rome, let?s grab some good Carbonara!
>
> Coincidentally, on August 3rd, the planned ?last day? of this mailing
> list, I'll be meeting up with some Italian friends from this list for a
> lunch to talk about comics. We'll be toasting to all of you who made this
> list such a great place! We'll try to send photos attached to a message to
> the list, if it will still be working!
>
> Ciao!
>
> -Paolo
>
> https://www.papersera.net
>
>

--

http://www.papersera.net
Tryg Helseth
Per and all,
Thanks for supporting this mailing list for over 30 years.
I joined DCML in December of 1993 shortly after I got this e-mail address. After many years of limited contact with other Disney Comics fans, it was great to find so many on this list. I learned a lot on this list I wouldn't have found from other sources at the time.
While active in the list in the early years, I drifted away from Disney Comics as other distractions entered my life and diminishing eyesight made reading comics difficult. I still checked in on the list, however, to see what was new.
It's been a great run, and I will miss the posts on the lists, though infrequent in recent years.
Best regards,
Tryg
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