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Topic: Fallberg/Murry Collection

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Roger North
I don't know if there is or not.
Robb_K
Quote from user: Charlie BrownIs there any collection of Fallberg's and Murry's great Mickey Mouse stories?
I've never heard of nor seen one from ANY country. That would be a good project for Boom! or Egmont. Of course, I'd rather have a Floyd Gottfredson Collected works first.
Germund
I consider myself a devoted Fallberg/Murry fan, but a Gottfredson Library 1930-55 is higher on my list too. I simply can't understand why we, in this age of comic strip reprints, still haven't got a complete Gottfredson series. If reprints of Dick Tracy, Little Orphan Annie, Terry and the Pirates, and even many obscure strips, make it financially, a Gottfredson series should be able to make a quite OK profit. Those stories are not much worse when it comes to language and racial stereotypes than many others from those decades.
However, tio gte back on topic, the 65 or so Murry adventures from Walt Disney's Comics and Stories would make an exceptionally nice reprint set too.
Coolwater
Quote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: Charlie BrownIs there any collection of Fallberg's and Murry's great Mickey Mouse stories?
I've never heard of nor seen one from ANY country. That would be a good project for Boom! or Egmont. Of course, I'd rather have a Floyd Gottfredson Collected works first.

In Italy, the special Murry books within the series "Capolavori Disney" (Inducks) seem to have covered at least a good great portion of Murry's earlier work: # 4, Le grandi storie di Paul Murry 1955/56, 216 pp.; # 14, 1946-50, 168 pp.; # 16, 1951-53, 168 pp.; # 31, 1950-53, 184 pp.

In Scandinavia and Germany there are special Murry books within the well-selling series "Hall of Fame" (Inducks). I doubt, however, that they will ever produce the full and finish Fallberg-Murry Library even here. They would probably have too much fear (rightly, I'd say) that such a project will find its catastrophic end in a commercial fiasco. Maybe they should dress up such a collection as "Goofy Comics & Stories". Besides Barks and Rosa, the holy simplicity seems to be Egmont's most proven selling warrant, my curious impression is ... :D
Coolwater
Quote from user: germundIf reprints of Dick Tracy, Little Orphan Annie, Terry and the Pirates, and even many obscure strips, make it financially, a Gottfredson series should be able to make a quite OK profit.
I wonder if all those collected works of the classic so-and-so were really commercial "successes" from the viewpoint of the league where such giants like Disney and Egmont use to play. Such reprint collections use to be initiated and carries out by devoted fans of the classic comics who often establish own publishing companies for their life and love project. The financial fruit they pick with their tireless engagement, however, may be hardly settled so much above the covering of all investments and production costs.

Basically, companies like Egmont and Disney are juggernauts with Dollar signs in the eyes. They don't really want to invest heart-blood in a lovingly made work collection of "classics" with which they maybe can earn "a bit", seen from what they' re used to. They want to produce for a mass market as cheap and uncomplicated as possible. Not surprising that it needed an own separated foundation of Barks fanatics, AR/Gladstone, to produce and publish the first collection of the works of Carl Barks. With the late supra-national European edition Egmont really did not have it too difficult because it actually only had to dish up the meal new that the AR and Gladstone pioneers had cooked before. But even the Carl Barks Collection finally only came to see the light of day because Barks is already well-established as the absolute God, because he promisses a good selling, because the production costs could be pressed down through parallel publishing in five countries etc.

I have somehow the feeling that Egmont's will and power is leached out with the Carl Barks Collection. Three decades of constant loud yelling and screaming for the Gottfredson Collection by the fans, and they'll do it, maybe ...
Zapjones
Let the yelling and screaming commence!
Timoro
There are many Murry collections in Europe, and they have numerous Fallberg stories in them. Like this Finnish one:
http://coa.inducks.org/issue.php?c=fi/NK%201998
And there are also those Hall of Fame books. Nevertheless, specific Murry/Fallberg collection is missing. All WDC stuff collected together would be great! Lots of quite rare stuff in there.

Timo
Germund
As I work for Egmont (with Disney comics [among other comics]), I can't really comment on everything Coolwater writes, but even though you/he's right about Egmont being a commercial company, Egmont has launched many projects over the years which haven't been certified cash cows. And, more importantly, many of the people actually working with the comics are more than a little in love with the comics medium. It's no secret that the Scandinavian/German Carl Barks collection is the result of far far more working hours than would be financially justifiable, but which were gladly spent as the people working with the books hands on love Barks' stories.
And I do believe many of the current comic strip reprints published by Fantagraphics, IDW etc earn money; not all of them, I for example don't know how much money Classic Comics Press is making, but I'm eternally grateful for the work they're doing. However, on the extreme profitable side we have the Calvin and Hobbes box, which was on many bestseller list for literature, and the Peanuts collections, which most certainly have earned their publishers substantial amounts. Even projects such as the complete Terry and the Pirates are seen in so many homes and book stores nowadays that they would have been handled quite poorly not to at least break even. And that's the level of sales I would expect from a Gottfredson Library too. The combined buying power of devoted Disney comic fans and general comic strip fans and general Mickey Mouse fans is not negligible, definitely not for a US edition bought by customers all over the world.
Then, of course, I could only hope that the project would be handled by persons willing to spend enough time and effort on the project to create the quality set Gottfredson's work deserves.
Edit: Sorry, now I'm off-topic again. perhaps this should be moved to a Gottfredson thread.
Charlie Brown
That's an interesting post, germund! I hope there will be more complete collections soon. The Peanuts collection is great.
Regarding Disney I really like to see a Carl Barks (like the European ones) and a Fallberg/Murry collection (back to the topic ;)). I'm not so into the Gottfredson stories.
Roger North
I agree with Timo. It would be nice if they had a collection of all the issues from Walt Disney's Comics and Stories. Maybe they have a collection of all of the other Disney Comics Series as well.
Coolwater
@germund: Not to be misunderstood: I didn't want to deny at all that there are within Egmont or in cooperation with it many good and faithful fans and lovers of classic Disney comic art. The current "Hall of Fame" series with single volumes each dedicated to a special artist are nice results of their efforts. I spoke of the general direction of the company, and I just wanted to say that Egmont isn't a "fan foundation" like many little publishers that have the special drive to produce reprints or work editions of comic classics.
When it comes to ambitious and elaborate multi-volume work editions of Disney artists, I don't see that anyone except Barks ever has had so good cards with respect to the actual realisation of such a product by Egmont. Gottfredson, one should think at least, is indeed really the one who, as the second-most appreciated classic (at least in the elitary fan discourse), has the next-best chances, but I guess his lobby and his fan infantry is in fact already much smaller than that of the Duck Man ...
I'm always open for positive surprises. If Egmont really shall become pregnant with a Gottfredson work edition one day, one will see me queueing with those who shell out their tithe into the colection box so that also the company's commercial eye needs not cry. (I'm not really sure, however, if I would enroll in a Murry or a Fallberg/Murry collection. Depends of it that thing would stay within the borders of humane dimensions. :P)
What I think will really come as the next stroke, at least here, is the "ultimate" (haha) Don Rosa collection. That not at least because of the man's high-grade cash cow qualities.
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