Quote from user: ramapithRe: Morequack and color reg problem, we saw a slight soft look to the printing in our office copies but not a full-blown registration offset. We're seeing what the printers can tell us.
Some pages are worse off than others. The worst examples show the magenta plate shifting a red halo clearly beyond the black line art. These pages are well beyond a "soft look." Very unfortunate. I wonder what happened to cause this. Today's printing processes should not allow this to happen. And if so, I think someone at the press check was asleep at the switch.
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Topic: Uncle Scrooge #379
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Morequack
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 16 -
2008-09-27 at 05:48:07
Argonaut
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 17 -
2008-09-28 at 21:06:45
Quote from user: ramapithQuote from user: ArgonautSo, question for David: When will that story/cover be seen next year? :)
In US 383, which will hopefully be out in December of THIS year. At the time John wrote the inside cover text, we hadn't picked the specific issue yet.
Re: Morequack and color reg problem, we saw a slight soft look to the printing in our office copies but not a full-blown registration offset. We're seeing what the printers can tell us.
Thanks for the info! Are we going to be getting another doubled up release month? (A monthly schedule would put 383 for January.)
I'm just glad GotLL is getting a nice new reprint. Kudos for using the pinup art on the cover. :)
As for the color reg, my copy has no problems whatsoever Morequack. Looks like ya got a dud. :(
In US 383, which will hopefully be out in December of THIS year. At the time John wrote the inside cover text, we hadn't picked the specific issue yet.
Re: Morequack and color reg problem, we saw a slight soft look to the printing in our office copies but not a full-blown registration offset. We're seeing what the printers can tell us.
Thanks for the info! Are we going to be getting another doubled up release month? (A monthly schedule would put 383 for January.)
I'm just glad GotLL is getting a nice new reprint. Kudos for using the pinup art on the cover. :)
As for the color reg, my copy has no problems whatsoever Morequack. Looks like ya got a dud. :(
Charlie Brown
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 18 -
2008-10-08 at 13:31:32
UC 379 arrived at Amazon Germany :) I'm looking forward to find it in my postbox. Hopefully the print is not to bad.
Does Gemstone change the printed month on the cover due to the delays? This issue still shows "July".
Does Gemstone change the printed month on the cover due to the delays? This issue still shows "July".
Argonaut
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 19 -
2008-10-09 at 08:21:34
Quote from user: Charlie BrownDoes Gemstone change the printed month on the cover due to the delays? This issue still shows "July".
I just got #380 today, and it's got "August". :)
I just got #380 today, and it's got "August". :)
Ramapith
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 20 -
2008-10-10 at 17:12:25
...er, and as I guess this proves, we're not changing months on the cover due to the delay. Sorry not to get back on this sooner.
Mexican Fan
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 21 -
2008-10-19 at 05:37:31
im goind to order it,The Phantom of Notre Duck!...i really wanna have it
and the 376( Happy Birthday, Flintheart Glomgold)
but..im not sure if i have the $$ ...i order some dvds too... :/
and the 376( Happy Birthday, Flintheart Glomgold)
but..im not sure if i have the $$ ...i order some dvds too... :/
Olivier
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 22 -
2008-10-19 at 23:08:19
Quote from user: ramapith...er, and as I guess this proves, we're not changing months on the cover due to the delay. Sorry not to get back on this sooner.
David, how long before the release date is an issue actually definitively wrapped, locked and ready for the files to be sent to the printer?
What is the ultimate deadline?
David, how long before the release date is an issue actually definitively wrapped, locked and ready for the files to be sent to the printer?
What is the ultimate deadline?
Charlie Brown
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 23 -
2008-10-20 at 07:24:48
Quote from user: MorequackHas anyone else noticed this or was it just my run?
In my issue is the printing okay. Perhaps a very slight double image in the Magica story. But if I hadn't read your post, I would not have noticed that.
In my issue is the printing okay. Perhaps a very slight double image in the Magica story. But if I hadn't read your post, I would not have noticed that.
WB
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 24 -
2008-10-21 at 20:49:46
Quote from user: OlivierQuote from user: ramapith...er, and as I guess this proves, we're not changing months on the cover due to the delay. Sorry not to get back on this sooner.
David, how long before the release date is an issue actually definitively wrapped, locked and ready for the files to be sent to the printer?
What is the ultimate deadline?
Well - I'm not David but I might be able to expand on it a bit...
Gemstone does not print any new material so the majority of their time is spent retouching old material or doing touch ups of current Egmont material (translation, dialogue, localization - like what guys like I and Joe Torcivia have been doing - in house coloring, restoration, etc)
Usually the general (but not always adhered to) rule is that all comics are usually produced 6 months in advance. I can't specify if it's equivalent to that for Gemstone because thier processes are different but I know that is how it is for Archie Sonic. To break it down a bit:
ARCHIE:
* Ian Flynn writes the scripts which are handed over to Tracy Yardley (main stories) or me (backups if any are available on rotation)
* Tracy and I do our thing. Mike Pellerito - our editor - looks them over.
* Mike sends them to Jim Amash to be inked. Jim sends them back to Mike for final corrections, changes. Patrick Spaziante draws the covers.
* Mike sends everything off to Jason Jenson to be colored. Mike seeks approvals by Sega concerning the stories (or if an adaptation is being done)
* Final edits are made and usually a month or two before the final process everything is sent to the printers.
* Mailed to stores and subscribers!
That last part is probably off by a month or weeks or so but you get the general idea. I assume the process is also very similar at Egmont.
For GEMSTONE:
* Stories are purchased from Egmont for use in the stateside books several months in advance and/or schedules are made for what reprint material will accompany those. Schedules are always subject to change depending on time taken to work the material VS any other issues that might surface.
* David Gerstien - the archival editor - will usually do research on any pieces of art that need to be collected or compiled to fit the issue.
* David begins the restoration process on older work depending on how much work the story actually needs. If needed - he contacts a freelancer for localization work to expediate the process on stories that needed heavy translation as well.
* Travis Seitler checks all the art to make sure everything's up to snuff - lettering any Egmont stuff that's needed or whatever. David usually approaches the lettering point when other duties are done if they need doing.
* John Clark oversees editing of stories, usually submits stuff to the censor or whoever the Disney liason is at that time for approval.
* The issue is compiled and made ready for the printers.
* Printing! (OH LAWDY KNOCK ON WOOD)
* Mailed to stores and subscribers!
Again - I'm probably wildly off by a few steps but you get the gist of it. David could probably fill in or expand on a few gaps far better than I ever could. Butr hopefully that should give you a rough idea of the process Olivier. Keep in mind that many companies do many different things. What Gemstone does now, Gladstone or Disney may have done wildly different. And I'm certain that if Gemstone were producing new stories right now then it would be even more different. But, there ya go...
David, how long before the release date is an issue actually definitively wrapped, locked and ready for the files to be sent to the printer?
What is the ultimate deadline?
Well - I'm not David but I might be able to expand on it a bit...
Gemstone does not print any new material so the majority of their time is spent retouching old material or doing touch ups of current Egmont material (translation, dialogue, localization - like what guys like I and Joe Torcivia have been doing - in house coloring, restoration, etc)
Usually the general (but not always adhered to) rule is that all comics are usually produced 6 months in advance. I can't specify if it's equivalent to that for Gemstone because thier processes are different but I know that is how it is for Archie Sonic. To break it down a bit:
ARCHIE:
* Ian Flynn writes the scripts which are handed over to Tracy Yardley (main stories) or me (backups if any are available on rotation)
* Tracy and I do our thing. Mike Pellerito - our editor - looks them over.
* Mike sends them to Jim Amash to be inked. Jim sends them back to Mike for final corrections, changes. Patrick Spaziante draws the covers.
* Mike sends everything off to Jason Jenson to be colored. Mike seeks approvals by Sega concerning the stories (or if an adaptation is being done)
* Final edits are made and usually a month or two before the final process everything is sent to the printers.
* Mailed to stores and subscribers!
That last part is probably off by a month or weeks or so but you get the general idea. I assume the process is also very similar at Egmont.
For GEMSTONE:
* Stories are purchased from Egmont for use in the stateside books several months in advance and/or schedules are made for what reprint material will accompany those. Schedules are always subject to change depending on time taken to work the material VS any other issues that might surface.
* David Gerstien - the archival editor - will usually do research on any pieces of art that need to be collected or compiled to fit the issue.
* David begins the restoration process on older work depending on how much work the story actually needs. If needed - he contacts a freelancer for localization work to expediate the process on stories that needed heavy translation as well.
* Travis Seitler checks all the art to make sure everything's up to snuff - lettering any Egmont stuff that's needed or whatever. David usually approaches the lettering point when other duties are done if they need doing.
* John Clark oversees editing of stories, usually submits stuff to the censor or whoever the Disney liason is at that time for approval.
* The issue is compiled and made ready for the printers.
* Printing! (OH LAWDY KNOCK ON WOOD)
* Mailed to stores and subscribers!
Again - I'm probably wildly off by a few steps but you get the gist of it. David could probably fill in or expand on a few gaps far better than I ever could. Butr hopefully that should give you a rough idea of the process Olivier. Keep in mind that many companies do many different things. What Gemstone does now, Gladstone or Disney may have done wildly different. And I'm certain that if Gemstone were producing new stories right now then it would be even more different. But, there ya go...
Ramapith
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 25 -
2008-10-21 at 22:51:53
Hey Dub,
Quote from user: WB* David Gerstein - the archival editor - will usually do research on any pieces of art that need to be collected or compiled to fit the issue.
Actually, this takes place *before* stories are ordered. John Clark and I have bull sessions to discuss rough plans for months ahead, such as themes we want to focus on or creators we want to feature. Then I do my research, determining which stories would best fill these needs and, as you say, where we can acquire the art for each (for older stories, there are often multiple sources of variant quality and authenticity). Then John and I compare notes, mixing stories that we both want to see (or that readers have requested). And only after that does the ordering take place?because to do it, we need the information that my research has turned up.
Quote:* Travis Seitler checks all the art to make sure everything's up to snuff - lettering any Egmont stuff that's needed or whatever.
Actually, we all do a fair amount of lettering, though Travis probably does more than the rest of us.Quote:David could probably fill in or expand on a few gaps far better than I ever could.
I hope I have.
One important extra point is that we have a limited budget to color stories entirely from scratch. When Gottfredson stories shift around on our schedule, it's often because we're staggering them so that we can absorb the cost of coloring the extended-length material.
Quote from user: WB* David Gerstein - the archival editor - will usually do research on any pieces of art that need to be collected or compiled to fit the issue.
Actually, this takes place *before* stories are ordered. John Clark and I have bull sessions to discuss rough plans for months ahead, such as themes we want to focus on or creators we want to feature. Then I do my research, determining which stories would best fill these needs and, as you say, where we can acquire the art for each (for older stories, there are often multiple sources of variant quality and authenticity). Then John and I compare notes, mixing stories that we both want to see (or that readers have requested). And only after that does the ordering take place?because to do it, we need the information that my research has turned up.
Quote:* Travis Seitler checks all the art to make sure everything's up to snuff - lettering any Egmont stuff that's needed or whatever.
Actually, we all do a fair amount of lettering, though Travis probably does more than the rest of us.Quote:David could probably fill in or expand on a few gaps far better than I ever could.
I hope I have.
One important extra point is that we have a limited budget to color stories entirely from scratch. When Gottfredson stories shift around on our schedule, it's often because we're staggering them so that we can absorb the cost of coloring the extended-length material.
Ramapith
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 26 -
2008-10-22 at 00:16:43
And you know, I didn't even touch on the duties of John's Assistant Editor, Susan Kolberg!
Sue's most obvious duty is assembling individual story pages into completed Quark XPress documents, ready to be sent to a printer. This is no easy job; art often has to be resized, page by page, and tweaked to match arcane color restrictions?leading to days of work. Then Sue is also involved in doing a lot of original color herself. And *then* Sue designs most of our ads, many based on her own concepts and some based on ideas from John or myself.
She could tell you more, but you get the picture. She's sometimes the one person holding us all together, and I'm particularly fond of pointing out that without her integral efforts, our infamous Good Housekeeping book would never have come out. When one designer got too busy to handle more than a third of the 350-page book, Sue mastered the same design style, then coached several other designers until they could match it. Then she managed the bunch of them through their work until everything was finished on deadline. Sometimes a job is just jaw-dropping?but she did it!
Sue's most obvious duty is assembling individual story pages into completed Quark XPress documents, ready to be sent to a printer. This is no easy job; art often has to be resized, page by page, and tweaked to match arcane color restrictions?leading to days of work. Then Sue is also involved in doing a lot of original color herself. And *then* Sue designs most of our ads, many based on her own concepts and some based on ideas from John or myself.
She could tell you more, but you get the picture. She's sometimes the one person holding us all together, and I'm particularly fond of pointing out that without her integral efforts, our infamous Good Housekeeping book would never have come out. When one designer got too busy to handle more than a third of the 350-page book, Sue mastered the same design style, then coached several other designers until they could match it. Then she managed the bunch of them through their work until everything was finished on deadline. Sometimes a job is just jaw-dropping?but she did it!
Charlie Brown
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 27 -
2008-10-22 at 08:21:01
Thank you!!
It's really interesting to learn about the making of comics at Gemstone.
It's really interesting to learn about the making of comics at Gemstone.
Olivier
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 28 -
2008-10-22 at 21:30:42
Thanks for the explanations!
I love "making of" accounts too.
I love "making of" accounts too.
Olivier
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 29 -
2008-10-24 at 16:57:43
Quote from user: Charlie BrownUC 379 arrived at Amazon Germany :) I'm looking forward to find it in my postbox.
(posted: 2008-10-08 16:31)
US # 380 is available on the German amazon, I see.
Guess what? The French amazon wrote me today to say that they don't expect to have US # 380 in stock until... May 2009 !!!!!
:( :( :(
It's downright outrageous.
I have not received US # 379, of course, and US # 377 has never been available so far.
I have checked the details regarding shipping, and I was surprised to see a single price: 6 euros; on amazon.com & amazon.co.uk, you per extra per item.
That's very interesting, and could turn out to be very useful.
Right now, however, they don't have enough Disney comics for the final average price to be reasonable: 8.09 per comic, for 6 issues. :\"
(posted: 2008-10-08 16:31)
US # 380 is available on the German amazon, I see.
Guess what? The French amazon wrote me today to say that they don't expect to have US # 380 in stock until... May 2009 !!!!!
:( :( :(
It's downright outrageous.
I have not received US # 379, of course, and US # 377 has never been available so far.
I have checked the details regarding shipping, and I was surprised to see a single price: 6 euros; on amazon.com & amazon.co.uk, you per extra per item.
That's very interesting, and could turn out to be very useful.
Right now, however, they don't have enough Disney comics for the final average price to be reasonable: 8.09 per comic, for 6 issues. :\"
Robb_K
Uncle Scrooge #379
Message 30 -
2008-10-24 at 18:46:01
I still have not receiced my US #379 and WDC #694, and two newer issues of both are in the shops, and I have a subscription, and am in a big city in USA! Gemstone is definitely not as reliable as Gladstone was, in terms of getting their books delivered.