So - the Strobl thread made me think of this.
What is your opinion of Vic Lockman's material - which was (for better or worse) incredibly prolific during the Gold Key/Whitman period of Disney comics?
Like? Dislike? Adore? Abhor?
Personally...I can kind of do without him. With the exception of a few I can't really think of much - if any - of his material that I have liked outside of say "Og's Iron Bed" or a few stories whose names I cannot remember at the immediate moment. I do like quite a bit but I think that I dislike more than "like-like".
IMO many - not all - of his stories kind of have a contrivance about them that I don't really warm up to or lean towards. the fact that the bulk up them come around during the lesser Strobl periods or with artists such as Kay Wright and John Carey don't help. There are a few good ideas that came from him however - Posty for one. WB luvsdidded him some Posty. <83
His general level of absurdity in the duck world - and other worlds for that matter - is appreciated when he doesn't go overboard with it (which he unfortunately often tends to do).
I just can't get behind him like I can get behind other creators and writers of that period. I'm probably of the minimal opinion that Bob Gregory was probably a better writer but maybe that's just me and MAYBE because I wasn't exposed to too much of the latter to make a fair comparison.
What do you guys think?
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WB
Vic Lockman
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2008-10-28 at 23:59:26
Lars Jensen
Vic Lockman
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2008-10-29 at 00:42:44
Quote from user: WBWhat is your opinion of Vic Lockman's material - which was (for better or worse) incredibly prolific during the Gold Key/Whitman period of Disney comics?
Like? Dislike? Adore? Abhor?
I have to get some sleep now, so I'll make this brief...
I haven't read all of Vic Lockman's work, but of the stuff I have: I think his worst stuff is OK, and his best work I adore. He paved new ways for Gyro Gearloose with his Gyro stories and for the Beagle Boys with his BB stories, created some brilliant characters (Posty, yes, but also Emil Eagle, Supersensitive-666 etc.) and had a great talent for mixing a dozen different elements from all over the Disney universe into the same story.
Like? Dislike? Adore? Abhor?
I have to get some sleep now, so I'll make this brief...
I haven't read all of Vic Lockman's work, but of the stuff I have: I think his worst stuff is OK, and his best work I adore. He paved new ways for Gyro Gearloose with his Gyro stories and for the Beagle Boys with his BB stories, created some brilliant characters (Posty, yes, but also Emil Eagle, Supersensitive-666 etc.) and had a great talent for mixing a dozen different elements from all over the Disney universe into the same story.
Robb_K
Vic Lockman
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2008-10-29 at 01:40:13
Quote from user: WBSo - the Strobl thread made me think of this.
What is your opinion of Vic Lockman's material - which was (for better or worse) incredibly prolific during the Gold Key/Whitman period of Disney comics?
Like? Dislike? Adore? Abhor?
Personally...I can kind of do without him. With the exception of a few I can't really think of much - if any - of his material that I have liked outside of say "Og's Iron Bed" or a few stories whose names I cannot remember at the immediate moment. I do like quite a bit but I think that I dislike more than "like-like".
IMO many - not all - of his stories kind of have a contrivance about them that I don't really warm up to or lean towards. the fact that the bulk up them come around during the lesser Strobl periods or with artists such as Kay Wright and John Carey don't help. There are a few good ideas that came from him however - Posty for one. WB luvsdidded him some Posty. <83
His general level of absurdity in the duck world - and other worlds for that matter - is appreciated when he doesn't go overboard with it (which he unfortunately often tends to do).
I just can't get behind him like I can get behind other creators and writers of that period. I'm probably of the minimal opinion that Bob Gregory was probably a better writer but maybe that's just me and MAYBE because I wasn't exposed to too much of the latter to make a fair comparison.
What do you guys think?
I don't like Vic's artwork. I've liked a few of his stories, but generally don't like his stories as much as Bob Gregory's, But, I liked almost nothing from USA in the '60s other than Barks, mainly because of the generally inferior (to my taste) artwork and colouring. To be honest, I couldn't even LOOK at Gold Key comics. I bought their comic books containing Barks' stories, but really had to struggle to even get through THEM. I didn't really remember most of the Barks Gold Key stories (wading through them only once, until they were reprinted by Gladstone, with "serious" colouring, and not having advert interruptions on every other page. I couldn't stand Kay Wright's, John Carey's, Vic Lockman's, Tony Strobl's (60s)(inkers), Paul Murray's (60s), and most of the other '60s artist's drawing style (and quality). Vic had a few good stories, but even his best don'tthrill me like Barks, Jippes/Milton, Walsh/Gottfredson, Bill Wright ('40s/early '50s), early Mau Heijmans, Kruse/Verhagen, '50s Tony Strobl (Gregory & others), '50s & '60s Romano Scarpa. etc.
What is your opinion of Vic Lockman's material - which was (for better or worse) incredibly prolific during the Gold Key/Whitman period of Disney comics?
Like? Dislike? Adore? Abhor?
Personally...I can kind of do without him. With the exception of a few I can't really think of much - if any - of his material that I have liked outside of say "Og's Iron Bed" or a few stories whose names I cannot remember at the immediate moment. I do like quite a bit but I think that I dislike more than "like-like".
IMO many - not all - of his stories kind of have a contrivance about them that I don't really warm up to or lean towards. the fact that the bulk up them come around during the lesser Strobl periods or with artists such as Kay Wright and John Carey don't help. There are a few good ideas that came from him however - Posty for one. WB luvsdidded him some Posty. <83
His general level of absurdity in the duck world - and other worlds for that matter - is appreciated when he doesn't go overboard with it (which he unfortunately often tends to do).
I just can't get behind him like I can get behind other creators and writers of that period. I'm probably of the minimal opinion that Bob Gregory was probably a better writer but maybe that's just me and MAYBE because I wasn't exposed to too much of the latter to make a fair comparison.
What do you guys think?
I don't like Vic's artwork. I've liked a few of his stories, but generally don't like his stories as much as Bob Gregory's, But, I liked almost nothing from USA in the '60s other than Barks, mainly because of the generally inferior (to my taste) artwork and colouring. To be honest, I couldn't even LOOK at Gold Key comics. I bought their comic books containing Barks' stories, but really had to struggle to even get through THEM. I didn't really remember most of the Barks Gold Key stories (wading through them only once, until they were reprinted by Gladstone, with "serious" colouring, and not having advert interruptions on every other page. I couldn't stand Kay Wright's, John Carey's, Vic Lockman's, Tony Strobl's (60s)(inkers), Paul Murray's (60s), and most of the other '60s artist's drawing style (and quality). Vic had a few good stories, but even his best don'tthrill me like Barks, Jippes/Milton, Walsh/Gottfredson, Bill Wright ('40s/early '50s), early Mau Heijmans, Kruse/Verhagen, '50s Tony Strobl (Gregory & others), '50s & '60s Romano Scarpa. etc.
Sirredknee
Vic Lockman
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2008-10-29 at 10:28:25
From what I've read I don't think Lockman was in the same league as Bob Gregory. Apart from "Og's Iron Bed" I have good memories of some of his collaborations with Barks ("The Invisible Intruder", "The Weather Watchers", maybe "Free Ski Spree") plus "The Overnight Hero" with Strobl (well worth reprinting!). He probably was the second most important contributor to the Gyro universe, though, not only with Emil Eagle, but especially with the introduction of the thinking cap. That was one of his better crazy ideas - it fit Gyro perfectly.
Roger North
Vic Lockman
Message 5 -
2008-10-29 at 11:59:13
I have only read a few of his stories but his artwork is pretty good from what I have seen.
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