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Topic: New Walt Disney Treasures TPB
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Roger North
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Message 1 -
2008-07-18 at 18:26:48
Gemstone is releasing a new TPB. It's the Third Walt Disney Treasures volume. This one is all Mickey Mouse. It has Mickey Mouse in Death Valley By Floyd Gottfredson (The first storyline that he has done) and The Chirkawa Necklace (First appearance of Trudy Van Tubb). I don't know what other stories are going to be in it but I guess we have to wait and see.
JeffT
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Message 2 -
2008-07-19 at 04:55:08
If our public library get it (they are very good about Disney comics fortunately) I'll definitely check it out. I'm a duck fan at heart though and won't be buying this one. Nice to see trades continue on a fairly regular basis from Gemstone no matter the content.
Roger North
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Message 3 -
2008-07-23 at 12:13:38
That is true Jeff. I like the Ducks just as much as you do.
Henry Fox
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Message 4 -
2008-07-24 at 16:20:03
Quote from user: Roger NorthThe Chirikawa Necklace
Yess! One of my favourite Scarpa stories! This makes the comic a must-have!
Yess! One of my favourite Scarpa stories! This makes the comic a must-have!
Roger North
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Message 5 -
2008-07-24 at 17:48:14
Really Henry? I haven't read it yet.
WB
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Message 6 -
2008-08-04 at 17:39:03
I am going to be all over this book like white on rice.
I'm pretty positive that this will be the first decent printing of Mickey Mouse in Death Valley in...ever. Especially considering the horrible quality of the Abbeville press version way back in the...what? late 70's? Early 80's? It is a shame that this story has never gotten the treatment it deserved given that it's the only other Mickey Mouse story by Walt Disney besides "Lost on a Desert island" and Floyd Gottfredson's first real Mickey Mouse work.
I consider this to be the equivalent of Gladstone I's 80's reprint of "Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold" and I'm incredibly sure that the guys at Gemstone won't dissapoint. David's restoration of this work is going to be mad awesome and he really ought to be praised a lot more for his work in restoring the Mouse serials as of late. :)
SIDENOTE: I'm also looking forward to "Mickey Mouse and the Chirikawa Necklace" as I've heard almost as much high praise and acclaim for this story as I did "Mickey Mouse and the Delta Dimension", since I first found out about them both. Amazing selections.
Question for anybody in the know - will these be the only stories in the trade or will there be a smaller, bonus filler story wedged in between the two?
I'm pretty positive that this will be the first decent printing of Mickey Mouse in Death Valley in...ever. Especially considering the horrible quality of the Abbeville press version way back in the...what? late 70's? Early 80's? It is a shame that this story has never gotten the treatment it deserved given that it's the only other Mickey Mouse story by Walt Disney besides "Lost on a Desert island" and Floyd Gottfredson's first real Mickey Mouse work.
I consider this to be the equivalent of Gladstone I's 80's reprint of "Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold" and I'm incredibly sure that the guys at Gemstone won't dissapoint. David's restoration of this work is going to be mad awesome and he really ought to be praised a lot more for his work in restoring the Mouse serials as of late. :)
SIDENOTE: I'm also looking forward to "Mickey Mouse and the Chirikawa Necklace" as I've heard almost as much high praise and acclaim for this story as I did "Mickey Mouse and the Delta Dimension", since I first found out about them both. Amazing selections.
Question for anybody in the know - will these be the only stories in the trade or will there be a smaller, bonus filler story wedged in between the two?
Roger North
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Message 7 -
2008-08-04 at 21:09:21
I don't know WB. I think there might be more stories.
Cacou
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Message 8 -
2008-08-05 at 09:49:53
I am quite curious about the Gemstone version. Will it be very different from the unofficial German Gottfredson library?
When the story was published by Hachette in the late 80s, this was a rare instance where Hachette would say they restored the story because no good proof was available.
Here is a sample from the German library
When the story was published by Hachette in the late 80s, this was a rare instance where Hachette would say they restored the story because no good proof was available.
Here is a sample from the German library
Ramapith
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Message 9 -
2008-08-05 at 14:47:38
Here's the same scene as taken from our material, an honest-to-goodness proof from Burbank. Click to see at larger size (compare the tree, the pig, and the shading on the plane for the most obvious improvement):
http://cartoonresearch.com/gerstein/gemstonedeathvalleyresized.gif
Original proofs don't exist for all of the story, but they do survive for about half of it. We're getting the rest from newspaper printings and early foreign editions; at times no better than the German Gottfredson Library, but sometimes much better.
http://cartoonresearch.com/gerstein/gemstonedeathvalleyresized.gif
Original proofs don't exist for all of the story, but they do survive for about half of it. We're getting the rest from newspaper printings and early foreign editions; at times no better than the German Gottfredson Library, but sometimes much better.
Ramapith
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Message 10 -
2008-08-05 at 14:54:10
Quote from user: WBQuestion for anybody in the know - will these be the only stories in the trade or will there be a smaller, bonus filler story wedged in between the two?
"Death Valley" in our remount is 101 pages long. "Chirikawa Necklace" is 59 pages long. The book is planned to be 168 pages long, so there won't be anything else besides those two stories and some editorial material.
But?I promise you'll all be excited about the editorial material. We've got some items that haven't seen print anywhere in modern times, such as an early Win Smith publicity drawing for the story and Smith's first, preliminary pencil sketches of Pete and Shyster.
"Death Valley" in our remount is 101 pages long. "Chirikawa Necklace" is 59 pages long. The book is planned to be 168 pages long, so there won't be anything else besides those two stories and some editorial material.
But?I promise you'll all be excited about the editorial material. We've got some items that haven't seen print anywhere in modern times, such as an early Win Smith publicity drawing for the story and Smith's first, preliminary pencil sketches of Pete and Shyster.
Cacou
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Message 11 -
2008-08-05 at 17:39:44
Thank you David! Interesting, as it seems this could be the best print ever of Death Valley. In the panels you uploaded lines are indeed much more precise than the ones in the German version. It looks like the lettering is much better as well.
And of course, I'm waiting forward for the other editorial material.
And of course, I'm waiting forward for the other editorial material.
Timoro
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Message 12 -
2008-08-05 at 17:57:05
Thanks, David for the info and the sample panels! Looks and sounds really good. I'm definitely gonna have this book.
Timoro
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Message 13 -
2008-08-06 at 19:11:19
One question for David: Is this Death Valley going to be in black and white? (as it should be, in my opinion, since it was ment to be that way).
Timo
Timo
Ramapith
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Message 14 -
2008-08-07 at 05:12:41
Timo?for your sake, I'm sorry to announce that this "Death Valley" will be in color. For my own part, though, I look forward to seeing Susan Daigle-Leach's great color embellish this seminal story, just as it similarly added so much to "Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold" in 1990.
Whenever the Gottfredson Library lands back on the schedule (no decision yet), there you'll have an opportunity to see "Death Valley" in black and white.
Quote from user: cacouIn the panels you uploaded lines are indeed much more precise than the ones in the German version. It looks like the lettering is much better as well.
The lettering varies from strip to strip in our version, I'm afraid. Sometimes our source for the art on a given strip was better than our source for the lettering, so you'll see some mostly great-looking panels now and then with rather muddy text. I hope readers are up to the cognitive dissonance.
Whenever the Gottfredson Library lands back on the schedule (no decision yet), there you'll have an opportunity to see "Death Valley" in black and white.
Quote from user: cacouIn the panels you uploaded lines are indeed much more precise than the ones in the German version. It looks like the lettering is much better as well.
The lettering varies from strip to strip in our version, I'm afraid. Sometimes our source for the art on a given strip was better than our source for the lettering, so you'll see some mostly great-looking panels now and then with rather muddy text. I hope readers are up to the cognitive dissonance.
Timoro
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Message 15 -
2008-08-07 at 09:49:51
Quote from user: ramapithTimo?for your sake, I'm sorry to announce that this "Death Valley" will be in color.
Whenever the Gottfredson Library lands back on the schedule (no decision yet), there you'll have an opportunity to see "Death Valley" in black and white.
Oh, well, you can't always get what you want. Nevertheless, I guess I'll get both of those! Glad to hear Gottfredson Library will be b/w! :-)
But about Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold, it was designed to have colors, some scenes looks empty and a bit lame without coloring. Back in those days when colorists tend to be fortuitous and careless, some scenes, especially night scenes which should be atmospheric, became more or less odd. That's why Barks added shadowing and lot's of black in his drawings in later stories, to keep them strong and better looking.
But I have admit, Susan Daigle-Leach is great colorist. It's just little bit useless to color something that doesn't need colors. Too strong colors won't add anything, in worst case they might even block and interfere the whole artwork. Mickey Mouse in Color did that in it's daily strips, same thing with Italian origin huge books Io Topolino, Le Grandi Storie di Topolino and such.
Timo
Whenever the Gottfredson Library lands back on the schedule (no decision yet), there you'll have an opportunity to see "Death Valley" in black and white.
Oh, well, you can't always get what you want. Nevertheless, I guess I'll get both of those! Glad to hear Gottfredson Library will be b/w! :-)
But about Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold, it was designed to have colors, some scenes looks empty and a bit lame without coloring. Back in those days when colorists tend to be fortuitous and careless, some scenes, especially night scenes which should be atmospheric, became more or less odd. That's why Barks added shadowing and lot's of black in his drawings in later stories, to keep them strong and better looking.
But I have admit, Susan Daigle-Leach is great colorist. It's just little bit useless to color something that doesn't need colors. Too strong colors won't add anything, in worst case they might even block and interfere the whole artwork. Mickey Mouse in Color did that in it's daily strips, same thing with Italian origin huge books Io Topolino, Le Grandi Storie di Topolino and such.
Timo
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