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Topic: The Best and The Worst shows of The Disney Afternoon

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ToonArt14
Quote from user: Roger NorthThat is a good list of shows Toon Art. It's interesting that you never watched the shows that I care about the least. By the way the villain on Timon and Pumbaa was named Quint.
Thank you, both for complimenting my list and reminding me of the name of the villain on Timon and Pumba. I was wrong, but I was still pretty close. :P But hey, I haven't seen the show since it was last on the air like a decade ago.
Roger North
Don't worry about it and you're Welcome.
Kimba_1962
Quote from user: kimba_19621. DUCKTALES
2. TALE SPIN
3. DARKWING DUCK
4. GUMMI BEARS
5. RESCUE RANGERS
6. ALADDIN
7. GARGOYLES
8. GOOF TROOP
9. BONKERS
10. QUACK PACK
11. SHNOOKUMS AND MEAT

Can't rate TIMON AND PUMBAA, never saw it...

Quote from user: Roger NorthI'm sorry to hear that Kimba. At least you know to rate most of the other shows.
I just realized that I neglected to rate THE MIGHTY DUCKS. If you can't say anything nice... Even S&M had some good (Pith Possum, mostly) in it on occasion. MIGHTY DUCKS, not so much.
Roger North
If you like Shnookums and Meat you're entitled to like it but I hate it because it's a rip off from Ren and Stimpy which is not really that good a show to begin with and That's all I have to say about that.
Mr. M
I tried to watch "Shnookums and Meat" short on you-tube... Let's just say I didn't like it and leave it there.

Quote from user: Roger Northit's a rip off from Ren and Stimpy which is not really that good a show to begin with
While I'm not that big of Ren and Stimpy fan myself (belive it or not but I have hard digestiing gross-out humor) I respect how ground breaking it was in showing how insane you can go with animated shows - both humor, character desings and how you can have fun with forms of animation - and I respect it for being infulance on many shows I enjoyde much more ("Ed, Edd and Eddy" for example)

I do have a hate-love relationship with shows creator John Kricfalusi. I sometimes enjoy reading or listening what he has to say about what cartoons should be and I find his tips on animating valuable... the other time I just find him pretentious if not unplesant in expresing his personal philosophies and I find him especialy harsh on stuff he don't like (at one point he went on rant how he hate Disney's "Fantasia" and how apperently Walt only made that movie to show how higher he is then other animators in the business and above doing the cartoonish stuff... )
I do share his frustration on how od "wacky" Daffy Duck was much more fun character then "sore looser" version, however. ;)
ToonArt14
Not to go of topic too much, but I was quite a fan of Ren and Stimpy back in the day. I only saw a few episodes on reruns as a kid, but I still really enjoyed them. I also do respect the show for how groundbreaking and influential it was on so many other cartoons as you, Mr. M, mentioned.
I haven't read much of John K's stuff on animation and cartoons, but I do remember him saying some controversial things. I remember there was one Looney Tunes director he never liked (I think it was Fritz Freleng but I could be wrong). I think John K also wasn't a fan of Carl Bark's work (blasphemy :P) but I could be wrong.
Mr. M
Here are Two entires about Barks on his blog...

http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/search/label/Carl%20Barks

He appear to respect him but he critisize his "human/dog hybrids" ("The only thing I can come up with is that conservative cartoonists felt a bit guilty about drawing regular funny animals that walked and talked (because that makes no sense) - but their jobs demanded it")

I recall in one of commentaries on DVD with Looney Tunes golden collection he called Fritz Freleng "boring director" at some point but that's all I recall.
ToonArt14
I read both of John K.'s posts about Barks on his blog this morning (the same ones you linked too), and not to derail this topic even further, but I've NEVER found the Barksian Anthropomorphic Dog People odd, creppy or scary in the least. They seemed perfectly fine to me. With the whole "Plutos a dog, whats Goofy?" and "A talking dog with other dogs?" thing, well, I might as well start a new thread by this point because, well, I don't want to derail this thread even further.
And yes, John K did call Freleng a "boring director" in one of the Looney Tunes Golden Collections commentaries. I believe it was on a cartoon on the third collection if my memory serves me right. I personally disagree but its all subjective in the end.
Jarred
To be honest for me the first place is reserved for "Rescue Rangers" don't ask my why,it's just no matter how much time i watch other cartoons "Rescue Rangers" had "that" wich i love,of course it's my opinion.If i have to make TOP 5 list it would looks like that

1.Rescue Rangers
2.Duck tales
3.Gummy Bears
4.Bonkers
5.Darkwing duck

REMEMBER that's only my opinion and to be honest IT'S HARD to make good "TOP X" list because every cartoon had good moments,So do not hate me because "Darkwing duck is awesome why you put it on 5 place".The only cartoon wich i 100% sure is on it right place is "Rescue Rangers" others like (for me) give me around 1% more entertainment than something above.I hope you understand my thinking and sorry for my English
Roger North
It's understandable Jarred. Rescue Rangers is a good show.
MrCleveland
Quote from user: Mr. MI tried to watch "Shnookums and Meat" short on you-tube... Let's just say I didn't like it and leave it there.

Quote from user: Roger Northit's a rip off from Ren and Stimpy which is not really that good a show to begin with
While I'm not that big of Ren and Stimpy fan myself (belive it or not but I have hard digestiing gross-out humor) I respect how ground breaking it was in showing how insane you can go with animated shows - both humor, character desings and how you can have fun with forms of animation - and I respect it for being infulance on many shows I enjoyde much more ("Ed, Edd and Eddy" for example)

I do have a hate-love relationship with shows creator John Kricfalusi. I sometimes enjoy reading or listening what he has to say about what cartoons should be and I find his tips on animating valuable... the other time I just find him pretentious if not unplesant in expresing his personal philosophies and I find him especialy harsh on stuff he don't like (at one point he went on rant how he hate Disney's "Fantasia" and how apperently Walt only made that movie to show how higher he is then other animators in the business and above doing the cartoonish stuff... )
I do share his frustration on how od "wacky" Daffy Duck was much more fun character then "sore looser" version, however. ;)

I never was a fan of "Ren and Stimpy", even when the ban was lifted on watching that show (yes, this was one of the shows I couldn't watch on TV back then) I ask "How was this green-lighted on Nickelodeon? It should've been on MTV"!

And John K. worked with Ralph Bashki (he gave us "Fritz the Cat").
Roger North
I never heard of Fritz the Cat.
MustangRockstar
I wish Disney would show a greater level of respect to their televsion properties. So tired of having 50-75 percent of the Disney Afternoon releases, the Muppets, etc.
I wouldn't be opposed to Disney emulating what WB is doing with its Archive Collection.
Roger North
It would be cool if The Disney Afternoon DVD's had the complete series of all their shows.
ToonArt14
Not to derail this topic anymore, but on one of John K.'s blog posts on Carl Barks what was that story where the guy shoved the accordion down Donald Duck's throat? I recognized/was able to find out the other Bark's stories he used images from, but not this one.
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