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Topic: "Donald Duck Is a Music Pirate, and His Nephews Too"

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Arthur
This story is currently on the Digg homepage:
http://digg.com/music/Donald_Duck_Is_a_Music_Pirate_and_His_Nephews_Too
"The latest issue of the Donald Duck magazine in The Netherlands features Donald and his nephews as music pirates and (who else) Uncle Scrooge as the big boss of a record label threatening with fines. Has the anti-piracy lobby infiltrated the Donald Duck magazine?"
GemstoneTravis
Quote from user: arthurThis story is currently on the Digg homepage"
And with that, Disney comics are (in)famous in the U.S. again! ;-)
Robb_K
Thom Roep is just about the LAST editor BREIN or any commercial lobby could get to. He HATES preachy stories. I'm actually shocked that he allowed such a 'preachy" story to be printed. Kids can tell when they are having a moral shoved down their throats. The kids don't want their heroes, "Huey, Dewey, and Louie (Kwick, Kwek en Kwak) being such "goody goodies"). I hope another Duck story in the same issue had them misbehaving, and driving the morally correct Donald crazy (just to provide balance)! I'm not so sure I like my hero, Donald Duck, being a crook for no good or even understandable reason. So, he's a thief, just because he's greedy and gets so involved in his greedy scheme that he won't listen to the voice of reason? I find it very hard to believe, and I don't like Donald here. Normally, when he does wrong it's because he's blinded when caught in an embarrassing situation that he has to avoid at all costs, or in competition with Gladstone or another male for Daisy's affections, and fears losing her. He's too blinded to realise what he is doing. But in this case (it seems) he's only "blinded" by greed, and there is no emergency blinding him. I'll have to read the story to judge fully, but the premise really bothers me (from what little I know of it). Does anyone know who the writer is? The artist looks like one from Comicup Studios (or, at least from Spain). I'll be at least mildly surprised if it was written by long-time veterans, Jan Kruse, Evert Geradts or Frank Jonker.
EVERY time I tried to turn in a story with a moral message, it was rejected, until I toned it down so much, the message was virtually lost.
EBi
Quote from user: Robb_KDoes anyone know who the writer is?
Ruud Straatman is the writer.
Robb_K
Thanks. Well,-Ruud Straatman doesn't often have obvious moral messages or preachy tones to his stories, so, I guess Thom allowed this one, as the situation provides interesting counterpurposes between Donald and Scrooge, and a typical chance for The Nephews to "play" the adult, to childlike Donald. It shouldn't be TOO controversial, as few people (IF ANY) would like to see someone download 100copies of a song for free, and then turn around and sell them, stealing sales from the artist and writers.
WB
Eh - not sure how I feel about this one given the big bullies of RIAA hounding everybody under the sun for so much as breathing. Sounds to me like it was a story that took advantage of a modern topical "goings-on". Those can tend to be really "ick" if not done well. I doubt there was any kind of agenda behind it, but all the same it kinda feels 'eh" to me. Last thing we need is some uneducated yokel screaming OMG DISNEY COMICS SUPPORTS THE RIAA SCROOGE IS "THE MAN" NOW.
For those that have read it - given that its incredibly short to begin with, is it at least decent?
Robb_K
As a former co-owner of a soul music record label and worker at Motown Records, I find it intriguing to think of Scrooge McDuck as a record company owner. I wonder if he was active in the production of music? I wonder if he produced, and ran recording sessions? Did he write the arrangements? -write songs? play an instrument (bagpipes?)? -sing backup to his artists. I'd hate to see the contracts he offered. He'd have even been worse than the crooked owners in the '50s, who never paid their artists a penny. He surely would have taken their promotion and recording costs out of their sales, as well as a ridiculously high management fee, and cut for finding them gigs. Their records would make him millions, and they'd owe him thousands above that, for putting them on record, and "teaching them the business"!
EBi
Quote from user: Robb_K[...]I find it intriguing to think of Scrooge McDuck as a record company owner.
Well, I suppose he can own a record company without being involved in the music production himself?
GemstoneTravis
Quote from user: EBiWell, I suppose he can own a record company without being involved in the music production himself?
Especially if he acquired it from a previous owner.

I'd love to see a follow-up where Scrooge realized that such downloads led to increased exposure for his artists, and thus higher sales. You could probably get a decent story out of Scrooge's wrestling with short-term losses vs. potential long-term gains. At least, you could get a better story than this one. ;)
Ramapith
If past stories are anything to go by, Scrooge??for all his character strengths??is the very definition of penny-wise, pound foolish, to the point where his fortune might be twice as large had he not wasted incredible amounts of time saving relative nickels and dimes.
My mom, a freelance editor, once planned to drive across town to a remote shop, all with the goal of saving less than five dollars on a product that was more expensive at our local shop. She caught herself before making the drive, though; the moment she thought about it, it was of course obvious that she stood to have more money in the bigger picture by buying the slightly more expensive product locally, but then getting home sooner and doing more work that day.
How many times has Scrooge lingered in the park, digging around in the grass for loose change and free newspapers? How much more money could he have been making doing other things with that same expenditure of time? (And how mad would he get if Donald pointed this out?)
GemstoneTravis
Quote from user: ramapithHow many times has Scrooge lingered in the park, digging around in the grass for loose change and free newspapers? How much more money could he have been making doing other things with that same expenditure of time? (And how mad would he get if Donald pointed this out?)
Hmm... so is the "Donald sees a business opportunity and establishes himself as Scrooge's competition" motif overdone? ;)
Robb_K
It is true that Uncle Scrooge would be a lot wealthier if he weren't so "penny wise, but pound foolish". But, then, he wouldn't be very interesting. He's a colourful character BECAUSE he's so fabulously wealthy, BECAUSE he's such a stingy pinch-penny. He's vulnerable, and human, because he's got those mental problems, fetishes and other negative aspects. No one would be able to identify with him if he were perfect.
Harukuro
Quote from user: Robb_KNo one would be able to identify with him if he were perfect.
Or any other fictional character for that matter. ;) I mean there aren't any perfect people so whats the point in making the "perfect character". Every comic, cartoon, novel..ANYTHING the characters all have something inperfect about them..which is why I guess we love them so much 'cause we can relate to those problems that way.
Arthur
There's a small story now about all this in the news section of the official Dutch Donald Duck website:
http://www.donaldduck.nl/woonkamer/DuckstadNieuws/

Translation:

"Donald Duck 49 had a 'Duckies' story in which the nephews download the latest CD of Jan Goudsmid instead of buying it. This story caused many reactions. We published this story because we thought it was fun that the three nephews were once again smarter than their uncle. Unfortunately one of the nephews reacted a bit too brave in the story and what he says is not completely true. Namely, downloading or copying once for personal use is not illegal, but what Donald does certainly is; becoming rich by selling multiple copies. We're sorry that this story caused so much frustration and uproar. That is not the meaning of a 'happy weekly', because we're not THAT brave in Duckburg. Think about Br'er Rabbit, the Big Bad Wolf and the Beagle Boys ..."
WB
Odd that they'd lump the more heroic (if not mischevious) Br'er Rabbit in with the likes of Zeke Wolf and the Beagles. ._.
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