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Topic: Disney Comics in Arabic

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Robb_K
With regard to Ole Damgaard's query about Disney Comics in Arabic, especially those other than the Egmont-related Egyptian issues:
I have only seen (physically-in my hands) one line of Egyptian Disney comics (monthly), which are oversized related to the current standard Egmont weekly size. I have a few issues, but they are in The Netherlands, and I am currently in USA. I believe I saw 3 different Egyptian books listed on Arthur's website.
I have never seen any other Arabic Disney Comics from other Arabic nations. I suspect they would only be allowed to be published in the few Arabic nations that are relatively Westernised (Egypt-because of its relatively good relations to USA, and Jordan-due to its relatively modern outlook, and its attempts to be politically neutral-and trade with all nations). However, I suspect that due to Jordan's proximity to The Palestinian Authority, and large Palestinian population within its borders, that it cannot risk offending them by publishing a cultural icon created (and representing) USA. Jordanians can easily get Egyptian books in any case, so I suspect that the Egyptian books are distributed there.
I assume there are no other Arabic nations publishing Disney Comics.
Can anyone else provide a factual answer to this question?
Cacou
I have seen a Palestinian Disney comic book from the late 40s or beginning of the 50s, at Disney Europe when it was in Paris.
I was told there is/was a line of Algerian comic books, but I have never seen it; it could be the same line as the Egyptian comics.
Robb_K
I really doubt that the Islamist government in Algeria would allow a publisher in their country to publish such an icon of USA "imperialism". I suspect that there was a distributor of the Egyptian magazines there.
Cacou
Since I have never seen such Algerian comics and am only relying information, I can't say wether these really exist or existed. Maybe a member here has more information. But I don't know if it's right to say the government in Algeria is "islamist", as they have been at war with islamist groups throughout the 90s.
Robb_K
Quote from user: cacouSince I have never seen such Algerian comics and am only relying information, I can't say wether these really exist or existed. Maybe a member here has more information. But I don't know if it's right to say the government in Algeria is "islamist", as they have been at war with islamist groups throughout the 90s.
Well, they may not be Islamist extremists, but they have been Anti-Western (and American) Culture ever since their independence from France. So, it would be very surprising if they were to embrace an American icon.
Cacou
I'm not sure what you are referring to. I would suspect many people in Egypt to be somehow anti-american, but that does not prevent them from having a Disney line of comics.
But it's also possible that some of those Egyptian Disney comics are/were sold in Tunesia or Algeria.
Roger North
I wouldn't know. I don't read arabic. I only read english and spanish.
Robb_K
Quote from user: cacouI'm not sure what you are referring to. I would suspect many people in Egypt to be somehow anti-american, but that does not prevent them from having a Disney line of comics.
But it's also possible that some of those Egyptian Disney comics are/were sold in Tunisia or Algeria.

Because Egypt is getting hundreds of millions of dollars poured into it from USA each year (since their returning to "friendship" and good relations with USA, from enmity and being in the Soviet camp), -their government "can't" have rules against "accepting" US cultural icons. However, the governments of many (most) other Arab nations "CANNOT" appear to accept US cultural icons, for political reasons, being members of The Arab League. It is possible for them to not prohibit the importation of books from an Egyptian publishing firm (The Egmont-affilitated Egyptian publisher), whereas, it is NOT possible for them to allow a publishing company within their country to produce the "unwanted" reading material, and thus, "condone" the dissemination of such cultural pollution.

The Egyptians got The Sinai back, and lots of money to repair infrastructure, help boost the economy and avoid starvation of their people from making "peace" with israel and becoming "friendly" with USA. They are not looked upon by their Arab brother nations in any good way for having done such a thing. Therefore, they cannot appear any worse to their fellow Arab nations by accepting some US culture (Disney Comics). So they have become free to take advantage of the free market, in that case (where they would not have otherwise been free to do that).

When Algeria was rightist, they were not friendly with USA, or desirous of its culture. Now that they are "leftists" (at least in terms of Arab nations)-they are still not friendly with USA or desirous of embracing its culture. I'm sure that won't change in our lifetimes, regardless of which faction is running that country. I am sure we will never see an Algerian Disney Comics publisher in our lifetime.
Ole Damgaard
Thanks for commenting on my dcml posts here.. especially since no one over there did. :-)
Robb_K
Quote from user: ole damgaardThanks for commenting on my dcml posts here.. especially since no one over there did. :-)
There is very little action on DCML nowadays. And I don't like to post there and wait until the next day to see if someone answers. It's a lot easier to use this forum. We should let those last few posters there that don't also use this forum know that they should come here for communicating with a larger group.
Ole Damgaard
I have to say I don't agree with you there, Rob.
There is a much larger audience on the list, if you look at the number of subscribers, and I really don't mind waiting some days for an answer. I have a lot of other things to do besides discussing Disney comics, so that's okay for me.
I've experienced good results from asking questions on the list before, and from reading other people's discussions, too. Sometimes you get answers from a lot of people, and sometimes you don't.
These days there is a lot of talk about north american publications, which doesn't interest me very much. But that's okay for me, and I like both the list and this forum, and see them as two entirely different places.
I like the nice, old-fashioned style of the mailinglist as a communication tool, and would hate to see it go.
Robb_K
Quote from user: ole damgaardI have to say I don't agree with you there, Rob.
There is a much larger audience on the list, if you look at the number of subscribers, and I really don't mind waiting some days for an answer. I have a lot of other things to do besides discussing Disney comics, so that's okay for me.
I've experienced good results from asking questions on the list before, and from reading other people's discussions, too. Sometimes you get answers from a lot of people, and sometimes you don't.
These days there is a lot of talk about north american publications, which doesn't interest me very much. But that's okay for me, and I like both the list and this forum, and see them as two entirely different places.
I like the nice, old-fashioned style of the mailing list as a communication tool, and would hate to see it go.

I guess there are a lot of lurkers on DCML. I don't advocate closing it down. I'd just like to see everyone come here, as it is a big, involved process for me to e-mail a mailing list. I signed up for it using my old-fashioned provider-offered e-mail, which is a very cumbersome system. It is true, that there is little going on here, also.
Ole Damgaard
Quote from user: Robb_KI signed up for it using my old-fashioned provider-offered e-mail, which is a very cumbersome system.
If you need a free and easy emailaccount or webmail account, just let me know.
Robb_K
Quote from user: ole damgaardQuote from user: Robb_KI signed up for it using my old-fashioned provider-offered e-mail, which is a very cumbersome system.
If you need a free and easy emailaccount or webmail account, just let me know.

Thanks. But I already have one at Yahoo. It's just that I signed up for DCML with my provider e-mail. Weren't web-based e-mails prohibited from DCML because of security?
Ole Damgaard
Quote from user: Robb_KThanks. But I already have one at Yahoo. It's just that I signed up for DCML with my provider e-mail. Weren't web-based e-mails prohibited from DCML because of security?
Oh, maybe they were, I don't know about that.
I've got my own domains with their own mailserver. Accounts that can be accessed via webmail there works fine with dcml and other mailinglists. But I think we are getting a little off-topic here.
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