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Topic: "Greatest" case of censorship?

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Dia-Dia
In has been said in another thread that some Italian stories of the 1960s were partially censored or redrawn when published in foreign countries, for instance Germany. None, as far as I know has been treated as absurdly as L'Antipaperone (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++295-BP)
First, in the German edition you have this panel, were the hand holding a gun has been redrawn by some child, so that Scrooge is utterly terrified by a finger:



And then, of course, you have the climax, one of the tensest in any Donald story, in which an evil Doppelgänger of Scrooge holds Donald at gunpoint and threatens to shoot him dead. Not that I could see that in the German version, where the gun has been "artistically" drawn over and the text changed so that Scrooge tells that he will take Donald away as a hostage. Of course, the expression of Donald's face, his body position and Scrooge's general attitude suggest something quite more sinister, but judge for yourself:



Do you know any more outrageous examples of "well-meaning" censorship like that?
Mr. M
I recall they did the same thing with Frank and Jessy James guns in chapter 3 of Rosa's "Life and times".

Never underestimate the power of the finger I guess...
PhantomDuck
The Greek "Mickey Mouse" was being published every Friday since July 1st of 1966.

At Friday 21 of April 1967 happened the Greek coup d'état, which led to the Greek military junta, a dictatorship by military colonels. From an interview with the publisher a few years ago, we learned that on that day no other magazine came out, except Mickey Mouse. They would seem silly and ridiculous to the public if they forbid the publication of a comic magazine for kids.

The next issue (#44, 28 April 1967) happened to feature the story "Topolino imperatore della Calidornia", or in English "The emperor of Calidornia". This is the first story ever created that showed Mouseton as an existent location on Disney comics, so in Greek it was intended to be translated as "The emperor of Mouseton". The cover was going to be this one.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/kuja-trance/Disney/Miky%20Sity/crownbeforejunta_zps1c01fd6f.jpg

However, you can understand that during that sudden political situation, it wasn't exactly the smartest move to publish a magazine with a cover showing an extremely popular character wearing a crown, and to have entitled with big bold letters "The Emperor of a town". So, what did they do ? just before the final printing, the publisher decided to take out the crown and change the story title to "Mickey Kid, the hero of the West". You can see the final cover here.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h275/kuja-trance/Disney/Miky%20Sity/crownafterjunta_zpsb09c226e.jpg

Notice that in the censored edition, they still left the small part of the crown on the reflection of the mirror. I don't know if they thought it was not necessary of they just didn't pay attention to it. Either way, this little detail remains there to reminds us of this whole story.

After 2 reprints, this great story was published in 2006 with the title as it was intended to be back then: "The emperor of Mouseton".
Dia-Dia
Poor Luciano Gatto, there was something about his style that attracted censorship in a way other artists didn't. This "gem" is from Paperino e l'affare vertiginoso (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++530-C) as published in Germany:

Notice how the evil goose lady (in fact, a Beagle Boy in disguise) suddenly pulls out a gun and... never mind.
Charlie Brown
The Germans were quite active in censoring Italian stories. The publisher changed guns to fingers, cigar to sweets, beating criminals to screaming ones and so on.
You can find a many examples at this German website: http://www.lustige-taschenbuecher.de/zensur_im_ltb.php Just click at any link (behind "Story") and see the pages. Mouse over shows the censored version.
Dia-Dia
Quote from user: Charlie BrownThe Germans were quite active in censoring Italian stories. The publisher changed guns to fingers, cigar to sweets, beating criminals to screaming ones and so on.

You can find a many examples at this German website: http://www.lustige-taschenbuecher.de/zensur_im_ltb.php Just click at any link (behind "Story") and see the pages. Mouse over shows the censored version.

Fantastic! I didn't know this page. But it confirms what I always surmised: no story has been as heavily censored as L'Antipaperone. What a shame! http://www.lustige-taschenbuecher.de/zensur_16_gegenspieler.php
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