Funny question. Inducks doesn't "tolerate" (or propagate) anything, it just documents Disney comics from all times and places.
This is a British comic from 1938. I suspect the whole story would be considered politically incorrect nowadays. But are you seriously suggesting that Inducks should censor it?
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Gerd Syllwasschy
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Message 1 -
2010-04-11 at 09:35:33
Charlie Brown
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Message 2 -
2010-04-11 at 09:39:12
This is history. So we should see it as a kind of "history class" and be happy that the world evolved since then.
Hedberg
Inducks
Message 3 -
2010-04-11 at 12:17:01
You don't censor or alterate old documents. As said in the previous posts, this is history and a part of our common knowledge.
Luckily for all of us, the world has evolved and we can sit back and say that this is a proof off sanity among man ...
Luckily for all of us, the world has evolved and we can sit back and say that this is a proof off sanity among man ...
Sigvald
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Message 4 -
2010-05-03 at 11:25:27
Quote from user: HedbergYou don't censor or alternate old documents...
Exactly! Unfortunately PCs like germu2 and Disney doesn't seem to get this point. It's well known that Disney didn't allow Gemstone to republish old material (Gottfredson, Barks, etc.) that is political incorrect by today??s standards, thus preventing Gemstone from publishing an uncensored Floyd Gottfredson Library and a WDC reprint collection. For a long time they also stopped Gladstone from publishing Don Rosa's "War of the Wendigo". Also the Carl Barks Library (CBL) is partly censored.
Exactly! Unfortunately PCs like germu2 and Disney doesn't seem to get this point. It's well known that Disney didn't allow Gemstone to republish old material (Gottfredson, Barks, etc.) that is political incorrect by today??s standards, thus preventing Gemstone from publishing an uncensored Floyd Gottfredson Library and a WDC reprint collection. For a long time they also stopped Gladstone from publishing Don Rosa's "War of the Wendigo". Also the Carl Barks Library (CBL) is partly censored.
Roger North
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Message 5 -
2010-05-03 at 15:38:53
Actually Gladstone did publish War of the Wendigo during it's last month in business. It was published in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #633.
VoBo
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Message 6 -
2010-05-03 at 15:44:04
I am probably going to step on somebodies feet, but......
How did we, the bad bad white people, obtain the good good black slaves?
They where sold to us by a black chief from a rival tribe/country in Africa.
And where do you find slavery today?
Well, in Africa and some Arabic states.
So please stop this nonsense about the good old cartoons and comics being politically uncorrect. Of course
they could be, if done today, but honestly.....? The comics and cartoons depicting f.ex. Elmar Fudge as a stupid
white man hunting rabbits is ok, but a black man loving playing dice is not? What about the hill-billy in The Simpsons?
There is a lot of incest and a bundle of children implied, but hey, that´s just fun, because he´s white?
I love them all: the "nigger" who loves to gamble, the hunter who´s too stupid to get the rabbit or Daffy Duck (who´s black)
and the hill-billy/red-neck from The Simpsons. They are all just cartoons. If you don't like them then read a book instead.
If you see it happening in real life, then react. But please don't mix old cartoons/comics up with real life as it is today!
English is not my native language, but I do hope you can see what I am trying to say.
PS.
I am living in 2010 and I am aware of that. Why are you not?
How did we, the bad bad white people, obtain the good good black slaves?
They where sold to us by a black chief from a rival tribe/country in Africa.
And where do you find slavery today?
Well, in Africa and some Arabic states.
So please stop this nonsense about the good old cartoons and comics being politically uncorrect. Of course
they could be, if done today, but honestly.....? The comics and cartoons depicting f.ex. Elmar Fudge as a stupid
white man hunting rabbits is ok, but a black man loving playing dice is not? What about the hill-billy in The Simpsons?
There is a lot of incest and a bundle of children implied, but hey, that´s just fun, because he´s white?
I love them all: the "nigger" who loves to gamble, the hunter who´s too stupid to get the rabbit or Daffy Duck (who´s black)
and the hill-billy/red-neck from The Simpsons. They are all just cartoons. If you don't like them then read a book instead.
If you see it happening in real life, then react. But please don't mix old cartoons/comics up with real life as it is today!
English is not my native language, but I do hope you can see what I am trying to say.
PS.
I am living in 2010 and I am aware of that. Why are you not?
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
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2010-05-03 at 17:16:26
Quote from user: SigvaldIt's well known that Disney didn't allow Gemstone to republish old material (Gottfredson, Barks, etc.) that is political incorrect by today??s standards, thus preventing Gemstone from publishing an uncensored Floyd Gottfredson Library and a WDC reprint collection.
Well, it's not known by me! Then again, I didn't know much about foreign comics when Gemstone was still publishing. Anyway, I always found it strange their were no Facsimiles of the WDC's as in Europe. And Gemstone was just the kind of publisher that would do that stuff. Did they also wanted to make an Al Taliaferro Library?
Well, it's not known by me! Then again, I didn't know much about foreign comics when Gemstone was still publishing. Anyway, I always found it strange their were no Facsimiles of the WDC's as in Europe. And Gemstone was just the kind of publisher that would do that stuff. Did they also wanted to make an Al Taliaferro Library?
GeoX
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Message 8 -
2010-05-03 at 17:26:21
If I'm not mistaken, there are a number of old Gottfredson stories that can't be republished in the US by general fiat, but that's not true for Barks--a few of his stories are mildly censored ("In Darkest Africa" and "The Treasure of Marco Polo" are the ones that spring immediately to mind), but I don't think any of his work is flat-out banned.
Gerd Syllwasschy
Inducks
Message 9 -
2010-05-03 at 21:04:20
It's the other way round, GeoX - the Barks stories you mention had been blacklisted, and having them censored was the only way for Another Rainbow to include them in the CBL. I know for sure that the German Disney licensee was not allowed to reprint "Treasure of Marco Polo" back in the 1980's.
GeoX
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2010-05-03 at 21:17:55
Hmm. You may be right, although at this point, they (the censored versions, at any rate) seem to be fair game, in the US at least. I wish that the censorship weren't in effect, but it could be a lot worse, really--given Disney's generally draconian policies, I can't complain too much.
It's odd that "Marco Polo" would be on the list, though--it wasn't censored for anything racial; it's just a panel referring to the country having had a lot of revolutions that was cut. And what about "Adventures Down Under?" If you're going to censor "Darkest Africa," how can you let one of Barks' most egregious stories in this regard go completely uncensored!?! How much sense does THAT make?!?
Whoops, there I go again--trying to make sense of Disney's fundamentally incoherent censorship policy. That way madness lies.
It's odd that "Marco Polo" would be on the list, though--it wasn't censored for anything racial; it's just a panel referring to the country having had a lot of revolutions that was cut. And what about "Adventures Down Under?" If you're going to censor "Darkest Africa," how can you let one of Barks' most egregious stories in this regard go completely uncensored!?! How much sense does THAT make?!?
Whoops, there I go again--trying to make sense of Disney's fundamentally incoherent censorship policy. That way madness lies.
Hedberg
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2010-05-03 at 21:52:38
Quote from user: GeoXIt's odd that "Marco Polo" would be on the list, though--it wasn't censored for anything racial; it's just a panel referring to the country having had a lot of revolutions that was cut. .
It's the Vietnam war - the Vietnamese didn't have a lot of revolutions - the just tried to get rid of an old Feudalistic government the French occupiers supported and due to the Industrial Military Complex' overload of weapon after WWII, the cold war started and USA inherited the war.
Barks was an all-american writer and wrote a story in the style that the media at that time had pinned out as a fact, but the story doesn't work because of the Kingdom-shit, because of the Elephant-shit and because of the fact that you can't turn history back. Again it's just a document of a time gone - and it was in fact racistic by means of the Duckburg ducks were superior to the "native" ducks....
It's the Vietnam war - the Vietnamese didn't have a lot of revolutions - the just tried to get rid of an old Feudalistic government the French occupiers supported and due to the Industrial Military Complex' overload of weapon after WWII, the cold war started and USA inherited the war.
Barks was an all-american writer and wrote a story in the style that the media at that time had pinned out as a fact, but the story doesn't work because of the Kingdom-shit, because of the Elephant-shit and because of the fact that you can't turn history back. Again it's just a document of a time gone - and it was in fact racistic by means of the Duckburg ducks were superior to the "native" ducks....
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
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Message 12 -
2010-05-04 at 14:49:54
Quote from user: GeoXIf I'm not mistaken, there are a number of old Gottfredson stories that can't be republished in the US by general fiat...
Are you thinking what I'm thinking? The stories where Mickey has an adventure that has got something to do with WOII? Inducks link:
http://coa.inducks.org/subseries.php?c=MM+in+WWII
Are you thinking what I'm thinking? The stories where Mickey has an adventure that has got something to do with WOII? Inducks link:
http://coa.inducks.org/subseries.php?c=MM+in+WWII
Sigvald
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Message 13 -
2010-05-05 at 08:58:35
Quote from user: Roger NorthActually Gladstone did publish War of the Wendigo during it's last month in business. It was published in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #633.
Correct - they published it then *because* they were going out of business. That was their very last issue - after that there were no one left for Disney's PC-sensors to prosecute.
Correct - they published it then *because* they were going out of business. That was their very last issue - after that there were no one left for Disney's PC-sensors to prosecute.
Germu2
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2013-06-14 at 04:30:31
The image is still there, this website propagates hate speech
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=U+MMW+150
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=U+MMW+150
Cacou
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2013-06-14 at 07:42:08
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