This one bugs me for a long time...
If Barks establish in "Only poor old" that Scrooge care for his money do to nalgic reasons (one coin = one Flashbak) why he would ever change all his coins into 10 dolar bills in those two stories? How the heck he would get the "very same" coins bac agian? I know it's Fanboyish nitpicking but darn is this off character for him...
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Topic: Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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Mr. M
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-04 at 22:57:02
Lars Jensen
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-04 at 23:16:54
Quote from user: Mr. MIf Barks establish in "Only poor old" that Scrooge care for his money do to nalgic reasons (one coin = one Flashbak) why he would ever change all his coins into 10 dolar bills in those two stories?
Scrooge did it because Barks was more interested in telling good stories than in sticking to continuity.
Scrooge did it because Barks was more interested in telling good stories than in sticking to continuity.
DarkAsh
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-05 at 03:29:23
Let's not forget How Green was My Valley? to prevent his money bin from falling into a giant gopher hole or Financial Fable where he treated the money more as money instead of mementos. There's probably others too.
Review Or Die
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-05 at 08:15:27
If you want a canon explanation, Scrooge's stranglehold over the Duckburg economy is so great (it is established that there are NO kinds of businesses that he doesn't run) that he is capable of getting back every coin simply by way of exchanging his personal fortune for whatever happens to be in his business.
But mostly it's because Barks didn't consider it a part of his character as tightly as Rosa did.
But mostly it's because Barks didn't consider it a part of his character as tightly as Rosa did.
Lars Jensen
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-05 at 11:01:08
Quote from user: Review Or DieIf you want a canon explanation, Scrooge's stranglehold over the Duckburg economy is so great (it is established that there are NO kinds of businesses that he doesn't run)
Almost no businesses. AFAIK, he's still not involved with the looking-for-Indian-arrowheads business.
Almost no businesses. AFAIK, he's still not involved with the looking-for-Indian-arrowheads business.
Review Or Die
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-05 at 11:04:54
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Review Or DieIf you want a canon explanation, Scrooge's stranglehold over the Duckburg economy is so great (it is established that there are NO kinds of businesses that he doesn't run)
Almost no businesses. AFAIK, he's still not involved with the looking-for-Indian-arrowheads business.
Aha, but if you assume those stories take place AFTER The Seven Cities of Cibola (if I'm recalling the name correctly), then my explanation is technically correct... the best kind of correct!
Almost no businesses. AFAIK, he's still not involved with the looking-for-Indian-arrowheads business.
Aha, but if you assume those stories take place AFTER The Seven Cities of Cibola (if I'm recalling the name correctly), then my explanation is technically correct... the best kind of correct!
Lars Jensen
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-05 at 11:16:24
I've always assumed all Barks stories took place at the same time. (Don't ask me how that works.)
DarkAsh
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-05 at 14:57:31
Maybe we are misinterpreting Scrooges' outstandingly good memory for sentimentality. Is it possible Scrooge doesn't hold any love for his money as mementos, but rather he can dispassionately look at a coin and know its origin?
Robb_K
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-05 at 20:51:44
Quote from user: DarkAshMaybe we are misinterpreting Scrooges' outstandingly good memory for sentimentality. Is it possible Scrooge doesn't hold any love for his money as mementos, but rather he can dispassionately look at a coin and know its origin?
Huh??? Then, apparently, you haven't seen Barks' panels showing Scrooge kissing several of his coins. He remembers just where and when he got them, and each one is, to him, like an old friend.
I know that very feeling, as I have that same relationship with each of my many thousands of phonograph records, and each of my several thousand comic books. I actually feel that way about each comic book page (of stories I like-certainly all my pages drawn by Barks, Gottfredson, Jippes, Milton, Gulbransson, Verhagen and Branca).
Huh??? Then, apparently, you haven't seen Barks' panels showing Scrooge kissing several of his coins. He remembers just where and when he got them, and each one is, to him, like an old friend.
I know that very feeling, as I have that same relationship with each of my many thousands of phonograph records, and each of my several thousand comic books. I actually feel that way about each comic book page (of stories I like-certainly all my pages drawn by Barks, Gottfredson, Jippes, Milton, Gulbransson, Verhagen and Branca).
GeoX
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-06 at 01:27:00
Quote from user: Review Or DieAha, but if you assume those stories take place AFTER The Seven Cities of Cibola (if I'm recalling the name correctly), then my explanation is technically correct... the best kind of correct!
Aha, but ALSO keep in mind that Scrooge doesn't own a cane factory! :P
Aha, but ALSO keep in mind that Scrooge doesn't own a cane factory! :P
Lars Jensen
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-06 at 10:13:59
Quote from user: GeoXAha, but ALSO keep in mind that Scrooge doesn't own a cane factory! :P
Are we sure that story isn't fictional fiction?
Are we sure that story isn't fictional fiction?
Mr. M
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-06 at 22:28:47
Like those DC "imaginery" stories or Marvel's "What if..." stories?
Roger North
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-07 at 12:37:26
It is mentioned that Scrooge doesn't own a cane factory in the story Spending Money which was originally published in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #144. I have that story in The Carl Barks Library of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #21.
Review Or Die
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-07 at 13:29:25
Quote from user: Roger NorthIt is mentioned that Scrooge doesn't own a cane factory in the story Spending Money which was originally published in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #144. I have that story in The Carl Barks Library of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #21.
He doesn't own a cane factory in that story, but who's to say that he didn't buy a cane factory in the interim between these other stories? And those people who buy canes are likely to buy things from his other stores and factories.
To think of it in pure, real-world economic terms coupled with comic book logic occurring off screen, Scrooge's reach is stronger than any could dare to dream.
But the serious answer really is that Barks was way more interested in telling the most interesting story he could while retaining true to the feeling of the character, not their history. Rosa's Scrooge is the one concerned with canon... but even then, only sort of. If you look at the facts of Barks and Rosa's Donald, for example, you could make the argument that he is also a millionaire based on the dividends he is likely to receive. All it takes is something like The Crocodile Collector.
He doesn't own a cane factory in that story, but who's to say that he didn't buy a cane factory in the interim between these other stories? And those people who buy canes are likely to buy things from his other stores and factories.
To think of it in pure, real-world economic terms coupled with comic book logic occurring off screen, Scrooge's reach is stronger than any could dare to dream.
But the serious answer really is that Barks was way more interested in telling the most interesting story he could while retaining true to the feeling of the character, not their history. Rosa's Scrooge is the one concerned with canon... but even then, only sort of. If you look at the facts of Barks and Rosa's Donald, for example, you could make the argument that he is also a millionaire based on the dividends he is likely to receive. All it takes is something like The Crocodile Collector.
GeoX
Are "The Menehune Mystery" & "The Round Money Bin" off for Scrooge?
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2013-03-07 at 17:19:57
Quote from user: Review Or DieHe doesn't own a cane factory in that story, but who's to say that he didn't buy a cane factory in the interim between these other stories? And those people who buy canes are likely to buy things from his other stores and factories.
Well...but that's an unanswerable hypothetical, innit? Who's to say that he doesn't sell off a bunch of underperforming businesses at some point, if we're taking that route?
Well...but that's an unanswerable hypothetical, innit? Who's to say that he doesn't sell off a bunch of underperforming businesses at some point, if we're taking that route?
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