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Lars Jensen
And in case someone wonders: Rob's maps are really impressive.
Charlie Brown
Quote from user: Lars JensenRob's maps are really impressive.
I really would like to see them. I hope Rob finds a publisher soon!
Robb_K
Quote from user: Charlie BrownQuote from user: Lars JensenRob's maps are really impressive.
I really would like to see them. I hope Rob finds a publisher soon!

I showed them to both Egmont and Ehapa in 1989 and 1993, and both thought they looked like real maps of real cities and states, and that's why they turned them down. They didn't think that the young readers would care about them (even with drawings of The Ducks outside the map area, pointing to places on the map that are key interest points (e.g. Donald's various houses, Daisy's house, Gladstone's house, Gyro's shop, Scrooge's Money Bin, The McDuck Building, Duckburg University, Town Square, Duckburg City Park, Wildwood Canyon, Daisy's Sister's house, The Duckburg River, The Tulebug River, etc., etc.).

But, I think my maps gave Egmont the idea to publish a "map" of Duckburg, in the early 1990s that was really a view of the city from above. It was drawn by Spanish studio artists, and had a Spanish-style Bull Ring instead of football stadium, and the buildings looked like the Spanish-style stucco with Spanish tile roofs. It looked like a mediterranean town rather than an American (or northern European(for that matter) middle-sized city.

I hope Sanoma Uitgevers (Dutch Disney) will publish the maps as double sized fold out posters, using my same "realistic style maps", with drawings all around the border as the characters pointing to the landmarks, also with drawings of those landmarks. I hope that Mau Heymans will be the one to make the drawings. If it gets published by them, and there is a favourable reaction to it, perhaps Egmont and some of the other publishers will publish it, too.
RancidDuck
I've been wanting to post this before, and this seems like the perfect place.
This is the nine part map that Disney printed in their own run of comics in 1992. I thought this might fit in well with this thread.
I scanned and pasted the nine parts into one. Each section had a landmark in it.



Here are the landmarks and the issue of each map piece:
Top Row
piece 1- DDA #25-Schoolhouse
piece 2- C&S #572-Scrooge McDuck's Mansion
piece 3- US #267-Donald's House
Middle Row
piece 4- DDA #26-Scrooge's Money Bin
piece 5- C&S #573-Town Square
piece 6- US #268-Gyro Gearloose's House
Bottom Row
piece 7- DDA #27-Flintheart Glomgold's Mansion
piece 8- C&S #574-Beagle Boys' Hideout
piece 9- US #269- Grandma Duck's Farm

Each map had a question about it, if you answered all questions right you would be entered for a chance to win Original Newspaper Comic Strip Art.
Every entry received a set of Electrostatic Stickers. I didn't win the art, but I got the stickers.
Robb_K
That map looks to have been produced at Disney Italia. It looks a bit like Cavazzano's style.
Roger North
Quote from user: cacouI think you mean this is in German, Roger, not in Italian! (and BTW thank you Charlie for giving proper sources for the poster)
Thanks for correcting me cacou but it doesn't change the fact that I can't read the language.

I actually have all the issues with The Duckburg Map in them.
Cacou
Inducks attributes the art for the map above to Joe Pearson and Larry Mayer and gives it a K-code.
I think this art indeed looks more like something from the Studio Program or its successor in the 90s (the K-coded production).
Ole Damgaard
Definetely not an italian money bin, at least... where do you see the Cavazzano style in this, Rob?
Perico Librote
There is another interesting map of Duckburg published in 1997 as a sticker poster. It was given as a gift in at least the Norwegian and Danish weeklies "Donald Duck & Co" and "Anders And & Co". I´ve read about it in "Calisota Online":
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/maps/egmont2.html

The link for seeing the map doesn´t work, but I´ve found some pieces of the poster in the web, and i´ve joined them. This is the result:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/580/mapa2fb7.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/580/mapa2fb7.th.jpghttp://img180.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

You can see the landmarks on the link above. As Gilles R. Maurice said, the map includes Barksian references and typically Egmont countries stories references. I like it a lot!
MustangRockstar
Quote from user: RancidDuckI've been wanting to post this before, and this seems like the perfect place.
This is the nine part map that Disney printed in their own run of comics in 1992. I thought this might fit in well with this thread.
I scanned and pasted the nine parts into one. Each section had a landmark in it.

Each map had a question about it, if you answered all questions right you would be entered for a chance to win Original Newspaper Comic Strip Art.
Every entry received a set of Electrostatic Stickers. I didn't win the art, but I got the stickers.

Hehe I remember when they were doing that. As a kid, I remember being fascinated by the maps and seeing where locations were in relation to one another.
Michiel P
From Gilles Maurice's website Calisota Online:

Quote from user: Gilles MauriceIn "Fast Away Castaway" (W US 35-04), we can also see the gulf of lower Cauliflowernia. It's impossible to say whether Cauliflowernia is the same than Calisota, than California, or is another new state...
Source: http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/maps/barks.html

European readers may not realize that this Gulf of Lower Cauliflowernia is probably not a part of the U.S.A.

In reality, Lower California is not a lower part of the U.S. state of California, but the peninsula that comprises the Mexican states of Baja California and Baja California Sur. The Gulf of California is the body of water between this peninsula and the Mexican mainland, also known as the Gulf of Cortez. This is obviously the area that Carl Barks had in mind.

The name of Lower Cauliflowernia may suggest the existence of a corresponding U.S. state of Cauliflowernia, but technically speaking, such a state is never mentioned by Barks. Lower Cauliflowernia is simply the Barksian equivalent of the Baja California peninsula.

Compare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_California
Robb_K
Quote from user: Michiel PFrom Gilles Maurice's website Calisota Online:

Quote from user: Gilles MauriceIn "Fast Away Castaway" (W US 35-04), we can also see the gulf of lower Cauliflowernia. It's impossible to say whether Cauliflowernia is the same than Calisota, than California, or is another new state...
Source: http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/maps/barks.html

European readers may not realize that this Gulf of Lower Cauliflowernia is probably not a part of the U.S.A.

In reality, Lower California is not a lower part of the U.S. state of California, but the peninsula that comprises the Mexican states of Baja California and Baja California Sur. The Gulf of California is the body of water between this peninsula and the Mexican mainland, also known as the Gulf of Cortez. This is obviously the area that Carl Barks had in mind.

The name of Lower Cauliflowernia may suggest the existence of a corresponding U.S. state of Cauliflowernia, but technically speaking, such a state is never mentioned by Barks. Lower Cauliflowernia is simply the Barksian equivalent of the Baja California peninsula.

Compare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_California

I assume that you meant to write: "the peninsula that comprises the Mexican states of Baja California [DEL NORTE] and Baja California [DEL] Sur." The GULF of California refers to The Sea of Cortez, which is the piece of The Pacific Ocean, lying between the Mexican states I have mentioned above (on its west, and the Mexican states of Sonora and Sinaloa on its east.
Michiel P
Quote from user: Robb_KI assume that you meant to write: "the peninsula that comprises the Mexican states of Baja California [DEL NORTE] and Baja California [DEL] Sur."
I went with the names as they appear on Wikipedia. Apparently, these are the official state names.

Quote from user: Robb_KThe GULF of California refers to The Sea of Cortez.
I assume you meant to write: "The Gulf of California refers to the SEA of Cortez." That's the part I got wrong.

Note that in "The Seven Cities of Cibola" (20.3) Barks mentioned Lower California by its proper name.

P.S. In a general sense, I don't think it's necessary to repeat the previous post in full if one wants to comment on it.
Robb_K
Quote from user: Michiel PQuote from user: Robb_KI assume that you meant to write: "the peninsula that comprises the Mexican states of Baja California [DEL NORTE] and Baja California [DEL] Sur."
I went with the names as they appear on Wikipedia. Apparently, these are the official state names.

Quote from user: Robb_KThe GULF of California refers to The Sea of Cortez.
I assume you meant to write: "The Gulf of California refers to the SEA of Cortez." That's the part I got wrong.

Note that in "The Seven Cities of Cibola" (20.3) Barks mentioned Lower California by its proper name.

P.S. In a general sense, I don't think it's necessary to repeat the previous post in full if one wants to comment on it.

Wikipedia OFTEN has incorrect, inaccurate "information". ANYONE can go onto Wikipedia and replace accurate information with drivel. As far as I know, the "official" names of those two states are what I wrote above. That is what appears on their auto liceense plates, and I deal with people from those states virtually EVERY DAY.
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