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Baar Baar Jinx
First non-Barks Scrooge
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2011-12-16 at 14:42:14
I've tried to find this information elsewhere, but haven't been able to, so I'm hoping some of the Duckburgian scholars on this forum can help me. When was the first time someone other than Barks used Scrooge in a story? And, more specifically, when did Taliaferro first use him in the Donald Duck comic strip?
Coolwater
First non-Barks Scrooge
Message 2 -
2011-12-16 at 15:36:37
In Inducks one can produce a list with the story appearances of specific characters in chronological order:
http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=US&view=4&c1=date
Given that the list is correct as well as complete, the first non-Barks story where Scrooge appeared was "Trail Blazer" from 1950, drawn by Bob Moore:
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WH+++B6-01
http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=US&view=4&c1=date
Given that the list is correct as well as complete, the first non-Barks story where Scrooge appeared was "Trail Blazer" from 1950, drawn by Bob Moore:
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WH+++B6-01
Greek_User
First non-Barks Scrooge
Message 3 -
2011-12-16 at 15:37:43
With a little help from Inducks, I found out that:
He was firstly used by Bob Moore & Riley Thomson, in two Wheaties Premium's stories.
Taliaferro used him in 1951, in February's daily strips.
And last but not least, here are his first Italian stories!
http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cheers3.GIF
EDIT: Coolwater was a bit faster. http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/P.gif
He was firstly used by Bob Moore & Riley Thomson, in two Wheaties Premium's stories.
Taliaferro used him in 1951, in February's daily strips.
And last but not least, here are his first Italian stories!
http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cheers3.GIF
EDIT: Coolwater was a bit faster. http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/P.gif
Coolwater
First non-Barks Scrooge
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2011-12-16 at 15:47:29
Quote from user: Greek_UserEDIT: Coolwater was a bit faster.
But you are right of course that the Thomson story must count as much as first non-Barks appearance as the Moore story. I just pulled out recklessly the first story from the list without paying attention if the next story maybe was from the same comic book ... ;)
But you are right of course that the Thomson story must count as much as first non-Barks appearance as the Moore story. I just pulled out recklessly the first story from the list without paying attention if the next story maybe was from the same comic book ... ;)
Baar Baar Jinx
First non-Barks Scrooge
Message 5 -
2011-12-16 at 15:52:48
Quote from user: Greek_UserTaliaferro used him in 1951, in February's daily strips.
It's interesting how, in Taliaferro's 02/51 strips, Scrooge is used as if he's a brand-new eccentric relative rather than an established character, despite how well entrenched in Barks' work he already was at that point. Did Taliaferro ever comment on his decision to start using Scrooge in the strips?
It's interesting how, in Taliaferro's 02/51 strips, Scrooge is used as if he's a brand-new eccentric relative rather than an established character, despite how well entrenched in Barks' work he already was at that point. Did Taliaferro ever comment on his decision to start using Scrooge in the strips?
Greek_User
First non-Barks Scrooge
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2011-12-16 at 16:13:03
Quote from user: CoolwaterQuote from user: Greek_UserEDIT: Coolwater was a bit faster.
But you are right of course that the Thomson story must count as much as first non-Barks appearance as the Moore story. I just pulled out recklessly the first story from the list without paying attention if the next story maybe was from the same comic book ... ;)
;) :D 8-)
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: Greek_UserTaliaferro used him in 1951, in February's daily strips.
It's interesting how, in Taliaferro's 02/51 strips, Scrooge is used as if he's a brand-new eccentric relative rather than an established character, despite how well entrenched in Barks' work he already was at that point. Did Taliaferro ever comment on his decision to start using Scrooge in the strips?
I don't remember having heard anything about this... http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thinking.gif
However, I believe that since Scrooge wasn't as famous as now, there was a possibility the readers of the newspapers strips wouldn't know the character from the comic books. So, they introduced him as a distant & unknown relative of Donald and HDL. http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/idea.gif
In this way, they could show his personality (and invent more gags for the readers).
But you are right of course that the Thomson story must count as much as first non-Barks appearance as the Moore story. I just pulled out recklessly the first story from the list without paying attention if the next story maybe was from the same comic book ... ;)
;) :D 8-)
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: Greek_UserTaliaferro used him in 1951, in February's daily strips.
It's interesting how, in Taliaferro's 02/51 strips, Scrooge is used as if he's a brand-new eccentric relative rather than an established character, despite how well entrenched in Barks' work he already was at that point. Did Taliaferro ever comment on his decision to start using Scrooge in the strips?
I don't remember having heard anything about this... http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thinking.gif
However, I believe that since Scrooge wasn't as famous as now, there was a possibility the readers of the newspapers strips wouldn't know the character from the comic books. So, they introduced him as a distant & unknown relative of Donald and HDL. http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/idea.gif
In this way, they could show his personality (and invent more gags for the readers).
Baar Baar Jinx
First non-Barks Scrooge
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2011-12-16 at 17:17:07
Quote from user: Greek_User[I don't remember having heard anything about this... http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/thinking.gif
However, I believe that since Scrooge wasn't as famous as now, there was a possibility the readers of the newspapers strips wouldn't know the character from the comic books. So, they introduced him as a distant & unknown relative of Donald and HDL. http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/idea.gif
In this way, they could show his personality (and invent more gags for the readers).
In these strips, Scrooge seems to be portrayed as a visiting relative, who doesn't even live in Duckburg ... he bunks with Donald and the boys for weeks, and actually needs to fly back home at the end of the visit. Donald later comments on how he "hasn't changed at all, and looks like he does in his picture", suggesting they don't see each other all that often. Also, some gags about his stinginess that Barks would later use in one-pagers seem to have been inspired by this continuity ... in particular, the joke about not wanting to deprive paying customers of their tickets, that Barks later reworked into "back to the Klondike".
However, I believe that since Scrooge wasn't as famous as now, there was a possibility the readers of the newspapers strips wouldn't know the character from the comic books. So, they introduced him as a distant & unknown relative of Donald and HDL. http://www.greekcomics.gr/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/idea.gif
In this way, they could show his personality (and invent more gags for the readers).
In these strips, Scrooge seems to be portrayed as a visiting relative, who doesn't even live in Duckburg ... he bunks with Donald and the boys for weeks, and actually needs to fly back home at the end of the visit. Donald later comments on how he "hasn't changed at all, and looks like he does in his picture", suggesting they don't see each other all that often. Also, some gags about his stinginess that Barks would later use in one-pagers seem to have been inspired by this continuity ... in particular, the joke about not wanting to deprive paying customers of their tickets, that Barks later reworked into "back to the Klondike".
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