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Topic: UK comics stores for back issues?
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Matilda
UK comics stores for back issues?
Message 1 -
2011-09-13 at 01:20:11
Does anyone know of a UK comics store online that handles back issues of the UK's Disney Magazine or the Fleetway Mickey & Friends (1980's or 90's)? I have noodled around on the web, and the online British comics stores I have searched have very little or no Disney, and I don't see any sign at all of Fleetway Mickeys. I also haven't had as much luck finding Disney comics on ebay.co.uk as I have had finding them on ebay.fr. I managed to find one issue of Disney Magazine which I wanted from Mile High Comics (through our eBay), but otherwise I've come up empty.
Robb_K
UK comics stores for back issues?
Message 2 -
2011-09-13 at 03:32:36
I'm interested in that as well. Four of my Egmont stories were printed in British Disney Comics during the 1990s, which were not printed in USA (Gladstone, Disney or Gemstone). And, I'd like to get them. Almost no one in UK "collects" old issues of them. There is almost no resale market.
Timoro
UK comics stores for back issues?
Message 3 -
2011-09-13 at 08:52:46
Maybe ebay.uk. might be the answer?
Timo
Timo
Matilda
UK comics stores for back issues?
Message 4 -
2011-09-13 at 15:42:14
I have repeatedly tried the UK eBay--see next-to-last sentence of my post. Almost never any Disney comics there (I've *never* seen a Fleetway Mickey & Friends listed). As Rob says, apparently there's no resale market for the Disney comics in the UK. Perhaps someone should tell the Brits that people in *other* countries might buy their old Disney comics if they would list them on eBay!
p.s. Timo: Assuming you're the Timo who produced the English-language National Donaldistic Magazine a few years back--Thank you! Without that, I never would have known about the Disney kids' music CD with the "Song of the Screaming Cowboy". :)
p.s. Timo: Assuming you're the Timo who produced the English-language National Donaldistic Magazine a few years back--Thank you! Without that, I never would have known about the Disney kids' music CD with the "Song of the Screaming Cowboy". :)
Robb_K
UK comics stores for back issues?
Message 5 -
2011-09-14 at 03:40:26
Quote from user: MatildaI have repeatedly tried the UK eBay--see next-to-last sentence of my post. Almost never any Disney comics there (I've *never* seen a Fleetway Mickey & Friends listed). As Rob says, apparently there's no resale market for the Disney comics in the UK. Perhaps someone should tell the Brits that people in *other* countries might buy their old Disney comics if they would list them on eBay!
p.s. Timo: Assuming you're the Timo who produced the English-language National Donaldistic Magazine a few years back--Thank you! Without that, I never would have known about the Disney kids' music CD with the "Song of the Screaming Cowboy". :)
I think the problem is that there are NO OLD DISNEY COMICS to be sold. From what I've seen in England, the only people reading Egmont Disney comics were very young children. And, as all the stories were fairly short (no epic adventures), and the choice of stories printed were based on a policy that assumed that they should aim for a readers of ages 6-10. Great Britain and Ireland have a long tradition of their own comic strips and even strip books, Therefore, it has long been assumed that it would be difficult for Disney Comics to make highly significant inroads into that market of teenage and adult readers. They just assumed that little children, who watch the cartoons and visit Disney parks would like simple stories, perhaps mainly with joke/gag-based plots. Because of that policy, and lack of great/memorable stories, I suspect there are very few collectors of Egmont-published British Disney Comics. I know there are several Barks and US Disney Comics collectors in UK. The ten or so with whom I have had contact do NOT collect the Egmont British Disney comics. Whenever I have visited England since 1986, I have NEVER seen any Egmont British Disney Comics in book stores used stocks, despite finding many other British used comic magazines and newspaper insert format pages. The only place I have ever seen Egmont British Disney Comics, was being sold new on the newsstands. I suspect that most of the people who become "enamoured" with Disney Comics are above age 9, and need stories that have endearing features (such as epic tales of adventure, or very clever and sometimes intricate plots with suspense and great danger and heroism, or extreme cleverness, or other admirable character trait from the heroes. These elements are very thin (if they exist at all) in the Egmont stories published in The UK. So, I doubt that they have many British fan re-reading the stories enough to want to keep them after age 10 nor 11, and to want to purchase thjose books he or she missed, and for them to believe they can sell their used British Egmont Books to anyone. The Book Store managers surely think no one will buy them.
Maybe David Gerstein will comment on this. He lived in Britain, and worked for Egmont Disney Comics, there.
p.s. Timo: Assuming you're the Timo who produced the English-language National Donaldistic Magazine a few years back--Thank you! Without that, I never would have known about the Disney kids' music CD with the "Song of the Screaming Cowboy". :)
I think the problem is that there are NO OLD DISNEY COMICS to be sold. From what I've seen in England, the only people reading Egmont Disney comics were very young children. And, as all the stories were fairly short (no epic adventures), and the choice of stories printed were based on a policy that assumed that they should aim for a readers of ages 6-10. Great Britain and Ireland have a long tradition of their own comic strips and even strip books, Therefore, it has long been assumed that it would be difficult for Disney Comics to make highly significant inroads into that market of teenage and adult readers. They just assumed that little children, who watch the cartoons and visit Disney parks would like simple stories, perhaps mainly with joke/gag-based plots. Because of that policy, and lack of great/memorable stories, I suspect there are very few collectors of Egmont-published British Disney Comics. I know there are several Barks and US Disney Comics collectors in UK. The ten or so with whom I have had contact do NOT collect the Egmont British Disney comics. Whenever I have visited England since 1986, I have NEVER seen any Egmont British Disney Comics in book stores used stocks, despite finding many other British used comic magazines and newspaper insert format pages. The only place I have ever seen Egmont British Disney Comics, was being sold new on the newsstands. I suspect that most of the people who become "enamoured" with Disney Comics are above age 9, and need stories that have endearing features (such as epic tales of adventure, or very clever and sometimes intricate plots with suspense and great danger and heroism, or extreme cleverness, or other admirable character trait from the heroes. These elements are very thin (if they exist at all) in the Egmont stories published in The UK. So, I doubt that they have many British fan re-reading the stories enough to want to keep them after age 10 nor 11, and to want to purchase thjose books he or she missed, and for them to believe they can sell their used British Egmont Books to anyone. The Book Store managers surely think no one will buy them.
Maybe David Gerstein will comment on this. He lived in Britain, and worked for Egmont Disney Comics, there.
Ramapith
UK comics stores for back issues?
Message 6 -
2011-09-14 at 19:37:16
Quote:Maybe David Gerstein will comment on this. He lived in Britain, and worked for Egmont Disney Comics, there.
Hey Rob,
When I lived in Britain (1994-95), I certainly worked for Egmont??but not for their local British publisher (which was then Fleetway), "just" for their central comics studio in Copenhagen. I never even visited the Fleetway offices, though I would have liked to have done so.
I certainly saw the Brit Disney comics in shops, though they were evidently on the decline at the time. When I moved to the UK, lots of shops carried them; just one year later, fairly few did.
Quote:[Fleetway] just assumed that little children, who watch the cartoons and visit Disney parks would like simple stories, perhaps mainly with joke/gag-based plots.
"Short stories with joke/gag-based plots" pretty well sums up the tradition of most British humor comics, not just British Disney comics. There are plenty of locally-created British comic characters who??just like the Ducks and Mice??would, I think, have been far better served by longer-form, somewhat more sophisticated treatment than they tended to get. (I'm thinking specifically of DC Thomson's Bash St Kids and Desperate Dan...)
So, essentially, Fleetway's Disney comics simply mirrored the approach taken by their UK publishing peers. It wasn't a failing that was unique to them.
But I'd certainly call it a failing. Quite a lot of Brit humor comics have folded since the 1990s, not just Disney titles (see the discussions at Comics UK and other Brit message boards); and I'd agree that a major factor has been the ever-easier availability of longer-form storytelling in other print media. Plenty of American, Japanese, and Franco-Belgian comics are available in the UK not as periodicals, but as trade paperbacks. In an "adapt or die" climate, a lot of local Brit magazine publishers didn't successfully adapt.
A final word of warning, though: I haven't lived in the UK for any considerable amount of time since 1995, nor have I worked for any British comics publishers since about 2000. I'm not an expert on Britain's newsstand/bookstore distribution system, so there could be other elements in play about which I'm not fully informed.
Hey Rob,
When I lived in Britain (1994-95), I certainly worked for Egmont??but not for their local British publisher (which was then Fleetway), "just" for their central comics studio in Copenhagen. I never even visited the Fleetway offices, though I would have liked to have done so.
I certainly saw the Brit Disney comics in shops, though they were evidently on the decline at the time. When I moved to the UK, lots of shops carried them; just one year later, fairly few did.
Quote:[Fleetway] just assumed that little children, who watch the cartoons and visit Disney parks would like simple stories, perhaps mainly with joke/gag-based plots.
"Short stories with joke/gag-based plots" pretty well sums up the tradition of most British humor comics, not just British Disney comics. There are plenty of locally-created British comic characters who??just like the Ducks and Mice??would, I think, have been far better served by longer-form, somewhat more sophisticated treatment than they tended to get. (I'm thinking specifically of DC Thomson's Bash St Kids and Desperate Dan...)
So, essentially, Fleetway's Disney comics simply mirrored the approach taken by their UK publishing peers. It wasn't a failing that was unique to them.
But I'd certainly call it a failing. Quite a lot of Brit humor comics have folded since the 1990s, not just Disney titles (see the discussions at Comics UK and other Brit message boards); and I'd agree that a major factor has been the ever-easier availability of longer-form storytelling in other print media. Plenty of American, Japanese, and Franco-Belgian comics are available in the UK not as periodicals, but as trade paperbacks. In an "adapt or die" climate, a lot of local Brit magazine publishers didn't successfully adapt.
A final word of warning, though: I haven't lived in the UK for any considerable amount of time since 1995, nor have I worked for any British comics publishers since about 2000. I'm not an expert on Britain's newsstand/bookstore distribution system, so there could be other elements in play about which I'm not fully informed.
Timoro
UK comics stores for back issues?
Message 7 -
2011-09-15 at 07:17:40
Quote from user: Matildap.s. Timo: Assuming you're the Timo who produced the English-language National Donaldistic Magazine a few years back--Thank you! Without that, I never would have known about the Disney kids' music CD with the "Song of the Screaming Cowboy". :)
Yep, that's me! Nice to hear that the mag have been useful! :-)
Sorry, I read your message haphazardly. Notised only the part where you wrote about ebay.fr. Therefore I mentioned uk. There's always something over there, but as usually, not the particular item you are looking for. And no British Mickey and friends indeed. :-(
Timo
Yep, that's me! Nice to hear that the mag have been useful! :-)
Sorry, I read your message haphazardly. Notised only the part where you wrote about ebay.fr. Therefore I mentioned uk. There's always something over there, but as usually, not the particular item you are looking for. And no British Mickey and friends indeed. :-(
Timo
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