Quote from user: CasmikiIf you look at INDUCKS TOP 100, you'll see that in the Top 100 there are http://coa.inducks.org/recommend.php?top100 33 italian stories and 67 american stories. 26 italian stories in the Top 100 were never published in the USA. Branca, Van Horn and Vicar don't appear in the Top 100. This means that italian authors have created great masterpieces.
How many people have voted on those stories, and are those people representative of the rest of the world? Answers: "Not many" and "No". Trying to determine what the world at large believes by extrapolating from a tiny minority is always a bad idea.
But personally I do agree that Scarpa, Bottaro etc. have made some good stories. (So have Branca, Van Horn and Vicar, though.)
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Topic: Multi-part stories the industry norm?
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Lars Jensen
Multi-part stories the industry norm?
Message 16 -
2010-08-26 at 14:03:58
Dia-Dia
Multi-part stories the industry norm?
Message 17 -
2010-08-26 at 15:41:09
Quote from user: Lars JensenBut personally I do agree that Scarpa, Bottaro etc. have made some good stories. (So have Branca, Van Horn and Vicar, though.)
You are too kind to acknowledge that Scarpa made "some" good stories. Other people would say he made "many" good stories. He actually was a better writer of stories than either Martina or Cimino - it is a great pity that at some point he started relying on them instead of his own genius. They were good authors and provided him with great material, but never as great as I TL 380-AP, I TL 307-AP or I TL 400-AP.
You are too kind to acknowledge that Scarpa made "some" good stories. Other people would say he made "many" good stories. He actually was a better writer of stories than either Martina or Cimino - it is a great pity that at some point he started relying on them instead of his own genius. They were good authors and provided him with great material, but never as great as I TL 380-AP, I TL 307-AP or I TL 400-AP.
Lars Jensen
Multi-part stories the industry norm?
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2010-08-26 at 16:59:17
Quote from user: Dia-DiaQuote from user: Lars JensenBut personally I do agree that Scarpa, Bottaro etc. have made some good stories. (So have Branca, Van Horn and Vicar, though.)
You are too kind to acknowledge that Scarpa made "some" good stories. Other people would say he made "many" good stories.
Cut the sarcasm, thanks. Why do you automatically assume "some" is an insult? For all you know, "some" could mean "all".
You are too kind to acknowledge that Scarpa made "some" good stories. Other people would say he made "many" good stories.
Cut the sarcasm, thanks. Why do you automatically assume "some" is an insult? For all you know, "some" could mean "all".
Dia-Dia
Multi-part stories the industry norm?
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2010-08-26 at 17:57:22
Quote from user: Lars JensenWhy do you automatically assume "some" is an insult? For all you know, "some" could mean "all".
I didn't imply it was an insult, but as far as I know, "some" means "a few".
I didn't imply it was an insult, but as far as I know, "some" means "a few".
Lars Jensen
Multi-part stories the industry norm?
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2010-08-26 at 18:17:21
Quote from user: Dia-DiaQuote from user: Lars JensenWhy do you automatically assume "some" is an insult? For all you know, "some" could mean "all".
I didn't imply it was an insult, but as far as I know, "some" means "a few".
It doesn't necessarily mean that.
But even if it did: why the sarcastic reply?
I didn't imply it was an insult, but as far as I know, "some" means "a few".
It doesn't necessarily mean that.
But even if it did: why the sarcastic reply?
Dia-Dia
Multi-part stories the industry norm?
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2010-08-26 at 18:52:50
I was not being sarcastic. In case you mean I was defavourably comparing your work to that of Scarpa, I have to tell you that, as avid a reader as I am, I have never come across your work, and if I did, it didn't made me any impression. I am sorry to admit that, but frankly, even if I don't systematically avoid everything that has been done among Disney comics after 1990, I cannot say that the samples I read attracted me to it. Is it because of the "cool", the "post-modernist", the "nudge, wink, blink" attitude of so many writers? Certainly. And because of the repulsive (in my eyes) graphic style of many artists. And probably also because I grew older.
Anyway, I think that Scarpa is underestimated as a writer of stories, because he ceased relatively early to write his own. But the stories he wrote were also the best he made as an artist, there was a mutual inspiration of his two selves. I think that Martina wrote better stories for Chierchini.
But as a conclusion, I would say that my belief was that it was you who was being sarcastic. I mean, what musician would dare to say: "Beethoven wrote some good music"? If I over-interpreted your simple statement, then sorry.
Anyway, I think that Scarpa is underestimated as a writer of stories, because he ceased relatively early to write his own. But the stories he wrote were also the best he made as an artist, there was a mutual inspiration of his two selves. I think that Martina wrote better stories for Chierchini.
But as a conclusion, I would say that my belief was that it was you who was being sarcastic. I mean, what musician would dare to say: "Beethoven wrote some good music"? If I over-interpreted your simple statement, then sorry.
Lars Jensen
Multi-part stories the industry norm?
Message 22 -
2010-08-26 at 19:33:11
Quote from user: Dia-DiaI was not being sarcastic. In case you mean I was defavourably comparing your work to that of Scarpa
I didn't interpret your comment that way, no. We probably agree that saying "I like X" doesn't imply one dislikes everything else.
Quote from user: Dia-DiaAnyway, I think that Scarpa is underestimated as a writer of stories, because he ceased relatively early to write his own.
I disagree that Scarpa is underestimated as a writer (amongst the readers who have heard of him). Especially in Italy, of course, but also in Scandinavia after his Hall of Fame books came out here.
Quote from user: Dia-DiaBut as a conclusion, I would say that my belief was that it was you who was being sarcastic. I mean, what musician would dare to say: "Beethoven wrote some good music"?
Any musician who felt Beethoven wrote some good music? Statements such as "Beethoven wrote some good music" or "Scarpa made some good stories" are perfectly fine statements of opinion. However... Blanket statements such as "Scarpa made good stories" (implying that all stories Scarpa worked on were good) are not opinion, but worship. And "daring to say" something about someone only applies when you're talking about a god. I hope we agree Romano Scarpa wasn't a god.
And I wasn't being sarcastic.
I didn't interpret your comment that way, no. We probably agree that saying "I like X" doesn't imply one dislikes everything else.
Quote from user: Dia-DiaAnyway, I think that Scarpa is underestimated as a writer of stories, because he ceased relatively early to write his own.
I disagree that Scarpa is underestimated as a writer (amongst the readers who have heard of him). Especially in Italy, of course, but also in Scandinavia after his Hall of Fame books came out here.
Quote from user: Dia-DiaBut as a conclusion, I would say that my belief was that it was you who was being sarcastic. I mean, what musician would dare to say: "Beethoven wrote some good music"?
Any musician who felt Beethoven wrote some good music? Statements such as "Beethoven wrote some good music" or "Scarpa made some good stories" are perfectly fine statements of opinion. However... Blanket statements such as "Scarpa made good stories" (implying that all stories Scarpa worked on were good) are not opinion, but worship. And "daring to say" something about someone only applies when you're talking about a god. I hope we agree Romano Scarpa wasn't a god.
And I wasn't being sarcastic.
Dia-Dia
Multi-part stories the industry norm?
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2010-08-26 at 20:53:38
Quote from user: Lars JensenBlanket statements such as "Scarpa made good stories" (implying that all stories Scarpa worked on were good) are not opinion, but worship. And "daring to say" something about someone only applies when you're talking about a god. I hope we agree Romano Scarpa wasn't a god.
No, he wasn't, and not everything he made was excellent. I shouldn't even be stating this, it is obvious. Still, whenever he was excellent, he was truly excellent. Uncontroversially so. And damn it if we don't agree on that.
No, he wasn't, and not everything he made was excellent. I shouldn't even be stating this, it is obvious. Still, whenever he was excellent, he was truly excellent. Uncontroversially so. And damn it if we don't agree on that.
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