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Topic: Long-awaited "Marriage of Scrooge" story published in Scandinavia

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Robb_K
What should be my and Jan Gulbransson's best story to date, having Uncle Scrooge ACTUALLY get married (no dream), had its first chapter (of 3 8-pagers) printed this week in Danmark, Sweden and Norway. I hope this 24-page epic story will be printed soon in Germany, Finland, and a little later, The Netherlands.
Scrooge is tricked by a villainous female lawyer, into marrying her, so she can get her hands on his money. We also meet another ex-ladyfriend of Scrooge's, from his youth (NOT Glittering Goldie), to whom we find, he was engaged to be married (back in the 1800s). Chapter2 will be printed next week, and Chapter3 (conclusion) the week after.
I look forward to reading what all of you will think of it. We pl;an to use that Vulture lawyer villain in some future stories.
Robb Klein
Mr. M
It's odd not to use Goldie in such story but still the plot sound's pretty much... WOW!!!
Robb_K
Quote from user: Mr. MIt's odd not to use Goldie in such story but still the plot sound's pretty much... WOW!!!
Why should Scrooge have had only ONE ladyfriend in his entire long life? It's the same as his trillionaire rivals. Why should he only have Glomgold? Why not use Rockerduck more (as Jan G. is doing), and make up some new ones? Why not add new relatives and other interesting characters in Duckburg and The Ducks' lives? It makes their universe more realistic and provides a wider field for more different things to happen. That is one of the greatest strengths of "The Simpsons".
Scarpomaniak
Two weeks ago I received a message from the editor that in the second next year's issue of Polish "Kaczor Donald" will be 24-page comic "Scrooge's Wedding", but without the names of authors. Now, I am very pleased that your comic will appear in Poland just after the premiere in Scandinavia (in one-part at 15 January).
As the comic will be released in the Polish magazine, it also appears in several other countries in East-Central Europe
Robb_K
Quote from user: ScarpomaniakTwo weeks ago I received a message from the editor that in the second next year's issue of Polish "Kaczor Donald" will be 24-page comic "Scrooge's Wedding", but without the names of authors. Now, I am very pleased that your comic will appear in Poland just after the premiere in Scandinavia (in one-part at 15 January).
As the comic will be released in the Polish magazine, it also appears in several other countries in East-Central Europe

Thank you for that information. I may want to getthe Polish book, as the Scandinavian printings will be split into 3 issues, and it may be a long time (a few years) before I can get it (all together in one piece) in a special Dutch book.
Mr. M
Quote from user: Robb_KWhy should Scrooge have had only ONE ladyfriend in his entire long life?
Ow, I'm for Scrooge having plenty of girlfriends from the past, I just found Goldie such well know and established character it's hard not to bring her up ;)
WB
Goldie and/or Brigitta depending on where you live.
Baar Baar Jinx
Quote from user: Robb_KWe also meet another ex-ladyfriend of Scrooge's, from his youth (NOT Glittering Goldie), to whom we find, he was engaged to be married (back in the 1800s)
Does this mean you subscribe to the mainly Rosa-championed theory that all "present-day" Duck stories take place in the 1950s/60s? I would be surprised to learn that, but it's otherwise hard to explain Scrooge being engaged in the 1800s.
Robb_K
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: Robb_KWe also meet another ex-ladyfriend of Scrooge's, from his youth (NOT Glittering Goldie), to whom we find, he was engaged to be married (back in the 1800s)
Does this mean you subscribe to the mainly Rosa-championed theory that all "present-day" Duck stories take place in the 1950s/60s? I would be surprised to learn that, but it's otherwise hard to explain Scrooge being engaged in the 1800s.

I don't really, but in a way it's implicit, as whatever we portray eventually becomes dated. The problem is that I've been reading the stories and a fan since 1950, and had all the stories from the 1940s from the start, and I began writing stories in the 1960s, and writing them and storyboarding them professionally in the early 1980s. So it is difficult to "unlearn" the original timeline of Scrooge's existence, and to CONTINUALLY update Scrooge's life timeline to 70 years from the NEW PRESENT DATE. We add new technology (computers, mobile phones, etc) -so it is difficult to believe that Scrooge was also alive in the time before automobiles. It is a difficult problem. Television was added to the Barks stories in the 1950s, and space travel was added in the '60s. I, myself, only added any hint of recent times (computers) a few years ago, and still have not used mobile telephones in stories. Most of the newer technology I use is futuristic "magic" explained as inventions made by Gyro Gearloose.

When I was little, people didn't have televisions in their houses, nor garbage disposals, nor dishwashers, nor clothes dryers. My parents were young when many people had no telephones nor radios in their homes, nor indoor toilets. When my grandparents grew up, transportation was horses and wagons, and there was no plumbing in the house, and heating was a pot-bellied stove or fireplace. I suppose I DO treat The "Duck stories" as if they take place in the 1950s.
Baar Baar Jinx
Quote from user: Robb_KI don't really, but in a way it's implicit, as whatever we portray eventually becomes dated.
This seems to be a problem limited to the portrayal of Scrooge, since he's a character with a rich history grounded in a particular timeline that is often relevant to plotpoints. The rest of the cast could essentially live in any time period. For example, there wouldn't really be any problem with Donald or HD&L having Facebook profiles or tweeting (maybe in the Duck universe they'd call it "quacking"?). The only solution would be to have a rolling history for Scrooge, similar to the way that the Simpsons constantly updates the years that Marge and Homer were in high school with each season, not affecting any other character's history. The way Scrooge made his fortune would have to constantly change. That would, however, mean that Barksian facts like Scrooge being a prospector in the Klondike (and indeed, the very character of Goldie) become incompatible with new stories. Is modern day technology such as the internet, social media, tablets, etc., a major feature of current European Duck stories? The exaggerated incredulousness of the relatively slim, single-volume Junior Woodchucks Guidebook holding such a substantial amount of obscure knowledge, often played up for humorous purposes in Duck stories, is incongruous with an era where you can connect to Wikipedia with your handheld smartphone.

Quote from user: Robb_KWhy not add new relatives and other interesting characters in Duckburg and The Ducks' lives? It makes their universe more realistic and provides a wider field for more different things to happen. That is one of the greatest strengths of "The Simpsons".
It used to annoy me that wherever the Simpsons went in Springfield (a fair, a particular showing of a movie, a specific restaraunt at a specific time) almost everyone else there was a character we already knew. How did Patty and Selma, Mr. Burns, Bumblebee Man and Krusty all happen to have the same plans for the day as the Simpsons themselves? Then I realized I was taking it way too seriously, and it was actually hilarious. Once the show had built up a reasonably large and diverse supporting cast, they were used without apology for maximum comedic effect. You notice that in the first few seasons, background characters were mostly nondescript extras, and by comparison, having familiar faces reacting in comfortingly humorous ways to events has a certain appeal. That said, continuity is not a strength of the Simpsons, and the degree of looseness with the timeline that the show adopts may not be best suited to Duck comics.
Mr. M
On DVD commentary, the creators of the Simpson's call it "rubber band reality". Sure, in most episodes Moe's Tavern is on the other part of the town, but if they need it for a joke it will be next door to the Simpsons house or sometimes the church. In most episodes they will show flashback of Homer and Marge meeting in the 70's but then they will make entire flash-back episode that shown them being collage students in the 90's...

I'm a little bit mix about the continuity issues in Duck comics. On one hand I want Scrooge to have his life story (which include being part of Wild west and gold rush in the Klondike) but at the same time I like the character to deal with modern issues - cell phones, reality shows etc.
Ow, well. It's a cartoon universe. I can buy such leaps in logic, just as long they won't change essential parts of Scrooges history and don't retell his life story by having him make his fortune by inventing the first PC computer or something...
Kimba_1962
Quote from user: Robb_KWhat should be my and Jan Gulbransson's best story to date, having Uncle Scrooge ACTUALLY get married (no dream), had its first chapter (of 3 8-pagers) printed this week in Danmark, Sweden and Norway. I hope this 24-page epic story will be printed soon in Germany, Finland, and a little later, The Netherlands.

Scrooge is tricked by a villainous female lawyer, into marrying her, so she can get her hands on his money. We also meet another ex-ladyfriend of Scrooge's, from his youth (NOT Glittering Goldie), to whom we find, he was engaged to be married (back in the 1800s). Chapter2 will be printed next week, and Chapter3 (conclusion) the week after.

I look forward to reading what all of you will think of it. We pl;an to use that Vulture lawyer villain in some future stories.

Robb Klein

Somewhere, Millionaira Vanderbucks is wondering why she didn't think of the lawyer idea first.
Timoro
Two first episodes now published in Finnish Aku Ankka too! I have have enjoyed the story! Traditional in barksist way and funny. Best stuff for long time, sincerely! :) Far superior than those modern efforts with Star Wars spoofs (although the artwork have been really good on those) or comics that has mediocre plots with nothing but string of blunders.
Timo
Robb_K
Quote from user: timoroTwo first episodes now published in Finnish Aku Ankka too! I have have enjoyed the story! Traditional in barksist way and funny. Best stuff for long time, sincerely! :) Far superior than those modern efforts with Star Wars spoofs (although the artwork have been really good on those) or comics that has mediocre plots with nothing but string of blunders.

Timo

Hi Timo. Thanks for the kind words. Can you get me copies of all 3 of the issues (after the 3rd is printed)? Tell the Finnish editors that we'd like a Finnish copy. I have no relationship with the Finnish Sanoma editors. Maybe you can ask him for them? Also, Jan and I are currently working on many of our very best stories Sadstone story, Blackest Valentine's Day, a spy story (with Donald in The Secret Service, etc). There are MANY more. Please tell your editor to watch for them, so they can be printed in Aku Ankka. I don't think Jan will ever visit Finland, as he goes nowhere but to his ancestors' land in Southern Norway. But, I hope to make a trip to Finland within the next 3-4 years.
Timoro
Sure thing, Robb! I'll try to get copies.
Timo
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