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Sim
Grandpa Beagle Message 1 - 2010-01-14 at 18:25:39
Barks' Grandpa Beagle is called 186-802.
Barks' Beagles' elderly relative is called Blackheart Beagle.
Don Rosa mixed these two characters and for him, Grandpa Beagle is called Blackheart.
Barks, also depicted Papa Beagle and for him, every Beagles are brothers, instead, in Rosa's opinion, the Beagles are cousins to each other.
Grandpa Beagle is also called G-176.
In Italy he's called Nonno Bassotto and he brings the plate "GRAZIA" ("GRACE"), for his good behavior in jail.
In Brazil, he's called Vovo Metralha and doesn't bring the plate.
In W BB 6-04, he is called John Doe.
I think the last one is Beagles' maternal grandfather and I think that he is the father of Ma' Beagle.
The paternal grandpa, in my opinion, is Capt. Blackheart "Grace" Beagle, father of three, or more Beagles.
What about it?!
Roger North
Grandpa Beagle Message 2 - 2010-01-15 at 13:03:40
It's funny how Don Rosa made Blackheart Beagle and Grandpa Beagle the same person. Maybe Papa Beagle is one of Blackheart's sons. You're talking about Ma Beagle from Duck Tales right? The Duck Tales Beagles didn't fit in the same continuity as the Beagles from the Uncle Scrooge comics.
Sim
Grandpa Beagle Message 3 - 2010-01-15 at 13:29:12
I don't consider the Beagles from Ducktales, only Ma' Beagle.
Maybe Papa Beagle is the father of the Beagles in that story.

G-176, Vovo Metralha and John Doe are similar, ergo I suppose that they are the same character, Beagles' maternal grandpa.
Grandpa Beagle, Blackheart Beagle and Nonno Bassoto are, in my opinion the same character, Beagles' paternal grandpa.
Roger North
Grandpa Beagle Message 4 - 2010-01-16 at 16:26:24
I never heard of Nonno Bassoto is that Blackheart's name in a foreign language?
Kneon
Grandpa Beagle Message 5 - 2010-01-16 at 16:39:11
The DuckTales Beagles always reminded me of the Fratelli family from "The Goonies" (released a few years before DuckTales) with Ma Beagle in the Anne Ramsay role.
Stefan
Grandpa Beagle Message 6 - 2010-01-17 at 20:45:53
Quote from user: Roger NorthI never heard of Nonno Bassoto is that Blackheart's name in a foreign language?
Nonno Bassotto is Grandpa Beagle's name in a foreign language. Not to be confused with Blackheart Beagle, who presumably has a different name in that foreign language.

But I'm not sure if "Nonno" really is the character's given name... Similarly, are lots of characters really called "Brer" (Brer Rabbit, Brer Bear etc.)?
Fritz Baugh
Grandpa Beagle Message 7 - 2010-01-17 at 23:25:31
Quote from user: StefanSimilarly, are lots of characters really called "Brer" (Brer Rabbit, Brer Bear etc.)?
Pretty much just the ones originating from the Brer Rabbit series (Brer Rabbit, Brer Bear, Brer Fox), though those aforementioned "Brer Animals" do often refer to Zeke, the Big Bad Wolf, as "Brer Wolf"
Roger North
Grandpa Beagle Message 8 - 2010-01-18 at 02:05:52
Brer is short for Brother. That's what it says on Don Markstein's Toonopedia.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Grandpa Beagle Message 9 - 2010-01-18 at 20:03:14
And don't forget those characters were formed in Song of the South, narrated by Uncle Remus. An' then ya git this accent...
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/thumbnails3/us/wdc/075
Kneon
Grandpa Beagle Message 10 - 2010-01-18 at 21:23:30
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderAnd don't forget those characters were formed in Song of the South, narrated by Uncle Remus. An' then ya git this accent...
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/thumbnails3/us/wdc/075
The original Uncle Remus stories are *extremely* hard to read, even if English is your native language. I remember having to read them in grade school and was asking the teacher why everything was misspelled. Ha ha ha.
Robb_K
Grandpa Beagle Message 11 - 2010-01-18 at 22:29:42
Dey's naught hard t' read if'n ya waz born in dee Sowff!!!
Kneon
Grandpa Beagle Message 12 - 2010-01-19 at 16:11:49
Quote from user: Robb_KDey's naught hard t' read if'n ya waz born in dee Sowff!!!
Heh! No such luck... I'm a yankee. ;)
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Grandpa Beagle Message 13 - 2010-01-19 at 17:39:59
Sowff? You mean Sovjet Union? Before my time. :) And 1500 km (2400 miles for the yankees) away.
Or is it South? I am from Down Under, yes, but not that Down Under. There's another one, at app. 51* NL.
And then there's another South, maar dit spreek hulle daar Afrikaans.
Dia-Dia
Grandpa Beagle Message 14 - 2010-03-06 at 20:22:22
Quote from user: StefanQuote from user: Roger NorthI never heard of Nonno Bassoto is that Blackheart's name in a foreign language?
Nonno Bassotto is Grandpa Beagle's name in a foreign language. Not to be confused with Blackheart Beagle, who presumably has a different name in that foreign language.

But I'm not sure if "Nonno" really is the character's given name... Similarly, are lots of characters really called "Brer" (Brer Rabbit, Brer Bear etc.)?
"Nonno" means grandpa in Italian. The Beagle Boys are called "Banda Bassotti" there, and a single Beagle Boy, "Bassotto". Nonno Bassotto means Grandpa Beagle.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Grandpa Beagle Message 15 - 2010-03-07 at 12:11:56
The Beagle Boys are called the Zware Jongens in Dutch, which you could translate as Heavy Boys. Their Grandpa Blackheart is translated as Zwarthart, which is reversed-translated as Blackheart. :) Only the Italian Grandpa is different. He's called Opaatje. I think you could translate that as Little Grandpa.
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