Boom has pulled the plug on its classics line already?!
http://newsandviewsbychrisbarat.blogspot.com/2010/07/classics-canned.html
First Wizards of Mickey and Ultraheroes apparently got the axe. Now this. :-/
Granted, the books weren't selling well in the direct market compared to Gemstone's classic material, but those books (as well as Darkwing Duck) were the brightest spots in Boom's Mouse and Duck experiment thus far, in my opinion.
There's definitely a market for this kind of material... it's just not the superhero crowd that makes up the bulk of the direct market.
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Kneon
Classics cancelled?!
Message 1 -
2010-07-06 at 04:23:33
MustangRockstar
Classics cancelled?!
Message 2 -
2010-07-06 at 04:52:16
At the risk of sounding like a pessimist, I don't know what the future holds for Disney comics in the U.S.
Gladstone and Gemstone were pretty darn dedicated to the cause and they failed, and Boom has not shown me they have any new ideas to make things work.
I've held off on subscribing to the Boom series because I just don't see the appeal. Disney characters in Lord of the Rings, Justice League and James Bond settings just don't do it for me.
At this point, the only thing that does interested me would be the Ducks (in their traditional formats) and maybe WDC&S.
Though part of the problem is Disney, which hasn't taken advantage of it's opportunities to market it's old characters to a new generation.
Gladstone and Gemstone were pretty darn dedicated to the cause and they failed, and Boom has not shown me they have any new ideas to make things work.
I've held off on subscribing to the Boom series because I just don't see the appeal. Disney characters in Lord of the Rings, Justice League and James Bond settings just don't do it for me.
At this point, the only thing that does interested me would be the Ducks (in their traditional formats) and maybe WDC&S.
Though part of the problem is Disney, which hasn't taken advantage of it's opportunities to market it's old characters to a new generation.
Charlie Brown
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-06 at 06:52:25
That are sad news. The hardcovers are the only books is was interested in. Does that include the out of stock "The Life & Times Of Scrooge McDuck Vol 2"? And what happens to Vol 3 and 4?
My hope for an Englisch Carl Barks Collection is fading away - again :( Perhaps I should reconsider to buy the German one. Although I still think that an Engisch one would be profitable.
My hope for an Englisch Carl Barks Collection is fading away - again :( Perhaps I should reconsider to buy the German one. Although I still think that an Engisch one would be profitable.
Indiana Goof
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-06 at 08:54:48
The problem is basically that the US branch of Disney simply doesn't care anymore.
Mainstream entertainment companies like Disney market-test everything and simply don't give artists the same freedom that branches in other countries do. Notice how it took Square and Tokyo Disney, for example, to create Kingdom Hearts -- and when it was released in the US Disney kept silent and waited for reaction to it ?¢first?¢ before supporting it. They've been doing that with anything that they feel constitutes any sort of a "risk", including the movie Roger Rabbit.
Disney has left US comic branches to fend for themselves, and it's just ridiculous. Meanwhile, they go berserk promoting tween TV shows and music, not caring at all about Disney tradition. This is the US branch's idea of innovation. I remember once running into some of their Disney Channel network executives, and these were the most bland, nerdy, calculating, money-obsessed weirdos you can imagine, and they were insisting that "Phineas and Ferb" was what everyone wanted despite letters saying otherwise. They claimed no one cared about Disney cartoons and that Hanna Montana was "blazing new trails". One actually said to me that they weren't interested in traditional Disney because, and I quote, "the market is more important than talent".
If Disney would just get behind our comics branch here in the US again it could easily get back on track.
Mainstream entertainment companies like Disney market-test everything and simply don't give artists the same freedom that branches in other countries do. Notice how it took Square and Tokyo Disney, for example, to create Kingdom Hearts -- and when it was released in the US Disney kept silent and waited for reaction to it ?¢first?¢ before supporting it. They've been doing that with anything that they feel constitutes any sort of a "risk", including the movie Roger Rabbit.
Disney has left US comic branches to fend for themselves, and it's just ridiculous. Meanwhile, they go berserk promoting tween TV shows and music, not caring at all about Disney tradition. This is the US branch's idea of innovation. I remember once running into some of their Disney Channel network executives, and these were the most bland, nerdy, calculating, money-obsessed weirdos you can imagine, and they were insisting that "Phineas and Ferb" was what everyone wanted despite letters saying otherwise. They claimed no one cared about Disney cartoons and that Hanna Montana was "blazing new trails". One actually said to me that they weren't interested in traditional Disney because, and I quote, "the market is more important than talent".
If Disney would just get behind our comics branch here in the US again it could easily get back on track.
Roger North
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-06 at 11:47:05
Maybe they will start reprinting classic stories in the regular titles like Gladstone and Gemstone. When The Walt Disney Company started out it was mostly new stories but they changed the format to classic stories later on after most of their titles got cancelled. Maybe Boom will do the same.
Stavner
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-06 at 16:30:44
"There's definitely a market for this kind of material... it's just not the superhero crowd that makes up the bulk of the direct market."
That's what I say--Boom! should market these comics in the children's section of the bookstore.
That's what I say--Boom! should market these comics in the children's section of the bookstore.
Indiana Goof
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-06 at 16:36:44
Quote from user: stavner"There's definitely a market for this kind of material... it's just not the superhero crowd that makes up the bulk of the direct market."
That's what I say--Boom! should market these comics in the children's section of the bookstore.
Bingo! That's exactly what they should do.
It worked in the past when they actually sold here, and it would work again. :)
That's what I say--Boom! should market these comics in the children's section of the bookstore.
Bingo! That's exactly what they should do.
It worked in the past when they actually sold here, and it would work again. :)
Donald_Duck
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-06 at 17:39:52
I'm also sad to see the classic hardcovers go; but what's with the obsession with the older stuff in the current titles? Don't get me wrong, the material is great, but how ridiculous would it be for a company like Marvel to just print old Lee & Ditko stories every month? BOOM!'s at least fishing for things that are more up to date. I know the Italian stories aren't exactly Gottfredson, Barks and Rosa; but what about Casty's material in WDCS? and the Double Duck stuff was really fun (not for 12 issues, but you see my point!). Perhaps if we supported a little more and weren't so put off immediately by what's new and different, BOOM! can make it worth their while to do more original stuff, which should be the goal (Darkwing anyone?). Whaddya think?
Mcduck_Enterprises
Classics cancelled?!
Message 9 -
2010-07-06 at 18:05:30
Sigh,....it's just another brick in the wall. Seriously, there is so much change coming from Boom!, it is hard to tell what will happen next. It has been some-what unpredictable since they've achieved the Disney comics license....but I understand they are a new growing business. While I did buy the Donald classics hard cover, and enjoyed it, I cannot understand why (in the regular lines,,,,) they would release 6 issues, then a soft cover trade of those six issues (right away,), then a hard cover. That sounds like a big waste of dough.....I actually thought the Hunt for Old Number One was going to be a new set of stories in the trade....until I picked it up and realized it was the same darn previous six issues.....Okay....Maybe I missed the note where this was open to the public....but sometimes I feel like have to dig to find out anything because so few people read Disney's in the USA anyhow. I know other companies release quick trades, but I don't think multiple trade variants are all that necessary for Boom! when you're only selling 3000 a monthly issue in the states anyway....
Zapjones
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2010-07-07 at 03:43:14
Boom is cutting back on lots of hardcovers not just the Disney stuff. The current economic situation in the us simply cant support them. I wonder though if they would work in a the trade format since it seems that those will continue.
Kneon
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-07 at 04:07:22
Quote from user: zapjonesBoom is cutting back on lots of hardcovers not just the Disney stuff. The current economic situation in the us simply cant support them. I wonder though if they would work in a the trade format since it seems that those will continue.
The hardcovers were gorgeous, but the price was pretty steep. $25 MSRP is a lot to ask for a single comic in today's economy.
The hardcovers were gorgeous, but the price was pretty steep. $25 MSRP is a lot to ask for a single comic in today's economy.
Charlie Brown
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-07 at 06:32:12
Quote from user: KneonThe hardcovers were gorgeous, but the price was pretty steep. $25 MSRP is a lot to ask for a single comic in today's economy.
But that was just the price printed on the books. The real price on the bill is between $15 and $20. That seems quite fair for the offered quality.
But that was just the price printed on the books. The real price on the bill is between $15 and $20. That seems quite fair for the offered quality.
Kneon
Classics cancelled?!
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2010-07-08 at 03:07:56
Quote from user: Charlie BrownQuote from user: KneonThe hardcovers were gorgeous, but the price was pretty steep. $25 MSRP is a lot to ask for a single comic in today's economy.
But that was just the price printed on the books. The real price on the bill is between $15 and $20. That seems quite fair for the offered quality.
Oh, it's completely fair for a hardcover. What I meant to say is that folks may be reluctant to actually pay that, though, despite its actual value.
But that was just the price printed on the books. The real price on the bill is between $15 and $20. That seems quite fair for the offered quality.
Oh, it's completely fair for a hardcover. What I meant to say is that folks may be reluctant to actually pay that, though, despite its actual value.
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