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Topic: Von Drake Family

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Sim
This is my version...

Ludwig Von Drake
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Hofrat Von Drake ? Coot
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Friedrich Von Drake ? Duck Cornelius Coot "Mother Goose"

Hofrat Von Drake & ? Coot: In german translation of "Duckburg, USA", appeared on Micky Maus 35/1962, it's said Ludwig is one of the children of Hofrat Von Drake and an aunt of Grandma Duck.

Friedrich Von Drake: Altough he is considered Ludwig's cousin by Gilles Maurice and professor's uncle in B 820318, Frederico Von Pato, translitterated by me in Friedrich Von Drake is, according to the INDUCKS, grandpa of "our" Ludwig.

? Duck: Grandma of Ludwig and sister of Donald Duck, Donald Duck's great-grandfather.
We know from W LVD 3-03 Donald and Ludwig descend both from the DuckFamily and they (both) have at least two forefathers in common: Columbust Duck and Deadeye Duck (written originally as "Deadeye Dick", but considered by me a misprint).

"Mother Goose": In the short "The Truth about Mother Goose", Ludwig remember her as her grandma and show a his baby photograph with her who keeps him on her knees.

In my opinion, as I've already explained in another topic, before his death, Cornelius Coot returned in Europe to spouse/marry "Mother Goose"...

I hope you'll like this version... ;)

Walt Zuti ;)
Quackberg
On this one I going for the Don Rosa version - that Ludwig is married to Matilda McDuck but Hofrat, Friedrich and Mother Goose could still be part of Ludwigs family but with not connection to the Coots or Ducks. Cornelius Coot is my favorite character and I find it hard to think that he returned to Europe and married Mother Goose, to me his only wife is Pluckahontas the Native American mother of Clinton Coot. But that's just my view. I have to say though, that you Sim are very good at finding sources and to connect the family ties with that.
Sim
Thanks! ;)
I like your compliments... ;)
Quackberg
No problem and I must say it's fun to discuss these relations between these Disney characters.
One thing I wonder is if the German word "Hofrat" is Hofrat von Drake's real name because in english it means State Councillor or something like that. So it may be his title but it could be his name as there are very often strange names in the Duck comics.
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: QuackbergI have to say though, that you Sim are very good at finding sources and to connect the family ties with that.
Again: not to criticize Sim, but... Some of those aren't sources or only appear in one translation!

One example:

Quote from user: SimHofrat Von Drake & ? Coot: In german translation of "Duckburg, USA", appeared on Micky Maus 35/1962, it's said Ludwig is one of the children of Hofrat Von Drake and an aunt of Grandma Duck.
In the American original version, none of these things are mentioned.

I really wish you would mark your threads as fanfic, Sim.
Sim
Quote from user: Lars JensenI really wish you would mark your threads as fanfic, Sim.
The answer is no.
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: Lars JensenI really wish you would mark your threads as fanfic, Sim.
The answer is no.

OK.

Any specific reason why?
Sim
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimQuote from user: Lars JensenI really wish you would mark your threads as fanfic, Sim.
The answer is no.

OK.

Any specific reason why?

Doctor Gilles R. Maurice, who has collaborate with Disney... (GM), in his "My Duck Family Tree", put Hofrat Von Drake as Ludwig's father...

Now, I know you don't like very well that tree, particurarly because of the "Phooey Duck Topic", but leaving aside for a moment the personal matters, my presumed tie is accepted by a "Disney mamber"...
Quackberg
I don't really agree on everything on Gilles Maurice's family tree but I can accept on that Hofrat von Drake could be his grandfather - in Maurice's tree it shows that Hofrat is Ludwig's grandfather not his father. But I have an old idea that Ludwig's father's name is Albert von Drake with hair like Albert Einstein and is pretty much a caricature of him.
Sim
I too don't agree about everything in Maurice's version, some ties, in my opinion, are wrong and some invented and some there aren't.

So...

Dear Quackberg ( ;)),
Albert Von Drake, in my opinion, is too banal...
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimThe answer is no.
OK.

Any specific reason why?

Doctor Gilles R. Maurice, who has collaborate with Disney... (GM), in his "My Duck Family Tree", put Hofrat Von Drake as Ludwig's father...

Now, I know you don't like very well that tree, particurarly because of the "Phooey Duck Topic", but leaving aside for a moment the personal matters, my presumed tie is accepted by a "Disney mamber"...

Those drawings you link to have only been printed in Rappet -- the internal magazine for the Danish Donaldist Society DDF(R). Since DDF(R) is a private club, articles and drawings printed in Rappet aren't necessarily sanctioned by the Walt Disney Company or of any of its licensees. In fact, articles and drawings printed in Rappet usually are only representative of the opinions of the articles/drawings' writer/artist. So Gilles Maurice is not a "Disney member", as you call it.

As for Gilles Maurice's Duck family tree: I have no problems with how he views Phooey. I actually like that tree and have told Gilles Maurice this several times. In fact, I have used the tree more than once as inspiration for one of my stories. I just don't view it as the Ultimate Truth.

Who told you I don't like that family tree?

And when did Gilles become a doctor?
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: SimI too don't agree about everything in Maurice's version, some ties, in my opinion, are wrong and some invented and some there aren't.
Yes, part of that family tree is fanfic.
Sim
Quote from user: Lars JensenAnd when did Gilles become a doctor?
I think when they of "D.O.N.A.L.D.I.S.M.E." gave to him a Diploma... ;)
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: Lars JensenAnd when did Gilles become a doctor?
I think when they of "D.O.N.A.L.D.I.S.M.E." gave to him a Diploma... ;)

You mean http://www.donaldisme.dk/ ? Yeah, I need to get one of those degrees myself...
Sim
Yes, I mean that, Why?
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