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Topic: Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
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Dia-Dia
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 1 -
2010-03-07 at 10:10:30
I've always wondered why most, if not all, of his stories have never been published in the United States. Siegel was American, and famous, and he did write in English, as far as I know, so there would be no translation costs. Or did he write in Italian? One reason could be that his stories are considered bizarre and even scary by most. They certainly are unfit for young children; Zio Paperone e l'antimonetario (http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++913-C), for instance, would give nightmares to anybody. But I don't believe this is a sufficient reason. Does anyone know?
Roger North
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 2 -
2010-03-07 at 14:05:15
I didn't know Jerry Siegel wrote any Disney Stories. I knew that he wrote for Superman comics but not Disney.
Dia-Dia
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 3 -
2010-03-07 at 16:33:54
Quote from user: Roger NorthI didn't know Jerry Siegel wrote any Disney Stories. I knew that he wrote for Superman comics but not Disney.
You should be more curious, Roger. He wrote 160 stories for Disney Italia: http://coa.inducks.org/comp2.php?creat=JSi&default_o=1&kind=nk&pg1=1.
You should be more curious, Roger. He wrote 160 stories for Disney Italia: http://coa.inducks.org/comp2.php?creat=JSi&default_o=1&kind=nk&pg1=1.
Roger North
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 4 -
2010-03-08 at 13:25:32
That's a lot of stories I notice that a lot are either from The Donald Duck Universe or The Mickey Mouse Universe.
Dia-Dia
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 5 -
2010-03-08 at 13:50:12
Yes. His best stories - those that are seen as his most memorable, at least - are all Duck Universe, though. There is a little on his Disney years on http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Siegel
Roger North
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 6 -
2010-03-09 at 12:30:59
Is there a version of this in English?
Dia-Dia
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 7 -
2010-03-09 at 12:44:34
Quote from user: Roger NorthIs there a version of this in English?
That's what I asked in the first place! There should be, but apparently, there isn't. I'd love to know why.
That's what I asked in the first place! There should be, but apparently, there isn't. I'd love to know why.
Robb_K
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 8 -
2010-03-09 at 17:20:11
Here is a link to the English version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Siegel
Unfortunately, it only has a one-line mention of his time with Mondadori, and no detail about his stories, and who drew them.
Unfortunately, it only has a one-line mention of his time with Mondadori, and no detail about his stories, and who drew them.
Dia-Dia
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 9 -
2010-03-09 at 17:39:53
Woops, sorry Roger, I misunderstood your question, I thought you asked if there was a version *of his stories* in English! Sorry!
Anyway, here is a "robot" translation:
A Disney Italian
A good reason, then, Siegel, as well as the father of Superman, is considered one of the Masters of Italy with as many as 155 Disney stories in assets, all published on''Mickey Mouse''and''[[Mickey Mouse Almanac]] '', alternating with both [[Mickey]] and [[foo]] and with [[Donald]] and [[Scrooge McDuck | Scrooge McDuck]]:''History will be his first Donald Duck and the car 's heroism'', designed by then-rookie [[Giorgio Cavazzano]].
Disney instills in his stories throughout his passion for science fiction, developing traditional themes of the stories of Superman, as in the aforementioned''The machine of heroism,''or''Uncle Scrooge and the comet's unfortunate,'' Always Cavazzano, or''Uncle Scrooge and the raid over the centuries,''designed by [[Romano Scarpa]]: Siegel in this story not only sends around for centuries Scrooge, Donald and [[Pythagorean Archimedes | Archimedes]] but anticipates the destruction of the [[Earth]] in ((all attacked | 487 000)). Other significant stories, ranging in various fields are always''western''Duck and redemption, designed by [[Giuseppe Perego]], or''Uncle Scrooge and the treasure of Atlantis,''with shoes, (which, as already done by Barks, send the ducks in what remains of the lost continent of [[Atlantis]]), which are often characterized by a melancholy vein, almost romantic. An example in this sense, can be''Uncle Scrooge and the robot detective,''drawings by [[Giancarlo Gatti]], where a [[robot]] built by Archimedes to protect the deposit of Scrooge at the end debunks the story, despite the victory, because part of the trouble happened to his master are caused by his negligence.
His bizarre vein is also expressed by secondary characters who created specifically for her stories. For example, the magician's absurd that for revenge of the wealth of Scrooge, the revolt against her treasure in''Uncle Scrooge and the monetary threat,''drawings of shoes, or even the [[Toyman (Disney) | Toyman] ], present in three stories, which debuts in''The Junior Woodchucks against the Toyman,''drawings by [[Guido Scala]]. In this story, like many others, Siegel takes over the ecological themes that characterized his work at Western, presented here, Dewey, and Louie in the guise of classical general of Junior Woodchucks.
Anyway, here is a "robot" translation:
A Disney Italian
A good reason, then, Siegel, as well as the father of Superman, is considered one of the Masters of Italy with as many as 155 Disney stories in assets, all published on''Mickey Mouse''and''[[Mickey Mouse Almanac]] '', alternating with both [[Mickey]] and [[foo]] and with [[Donald]] and [[Scrooge McDuck | Scrooge McDuck]]:''History will be his first Donald Duck and the car 's heroism'', designed by then-rookie [[Giorgio Cavazzano]].
Disney instills in his stories throughout his passion for science fiction, developing traditional themes of the stories of Superman, as in the aforementioned''The machine of heroism,''or''Uncle Scrooge and the comet's unfortunate,'' Always Cavazzano, or''Uncle Scrooge and the raid over the centuries,''designed by [[Romano Scarpa]]: Siegel in this story not only sends around for centuries Scrooge, Donald and [[Pythagorean Archimedes | Archimedes]] but anticipates the destruction of the [[Earth]] in ((all attacked | 487 000)). Other significant stories, ranging in various fields are always''western''Duck and redemption, designed by [[Giuseppe Perego]], or''Uncle Scrooge and the treasure of Atlantis,''with shoes, (which, as already done by Barks, send the ducks in what remains of the lost continent of [[Atlantis]]), which are often characterized by a melancholy vein, almost romantic. An example in this sense, can be''Uncle Scrooge and the robot detective,''drawings by [[Giancarlo Gatti]], where a [[robot]] built by Archimedes to protect the deposit of Scrooge at the end debunks the story, despite the victory, because part of the trouble happened to his master are caused by his negligence.
His bizarre vein is also expressed by secondary characters who created specifically for her stories. For example, the magician's absurd that for revenge of the wealth of Scrooge, the revolt against her treasure in''Uncle Scrooge and the monetary threat,''drawings of shoes, or even the [[Toyman (Disney) | Toyman] ], present in three stories, which debuts in''The Junior Woodchucks against the Toyman,''drawings by [[Guido Scala]]. In this story, like many others, Siegel takes over the ecological themes that characterized his work at Western, presented here, Dewey, and Louie in the guise of classical general of Junior Woodchucks.
Dia-Dia
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 10 -
2010-03-09 at 17:47:09
And you also have this, Casty on Siegel (automatic translation from http://www.papersera.net/papersera/IntervistaCasty.php)
About Siegel, I see that almost all turn their noses ... Yet the author has scared me most as a kid and some of his stories are fascinating even today (Donald legionnaire The raid over the centuries, the monstrous invasion, the country that is not there, The voice that came out of nowhere .. . more clear, those with Toyman).
Er, I do not deny, however, that Siegel is often indigestible and sometimes even ... indefensible. So I like, but ... not defend. Indeed, I add that if all the stories of Mickey Mouse were so, alas ...
About Siegel, I see that almost all turn their noses ... Yet the author has scared me most as a kid and some of his stories are fascinating even today (Donald legionnaire The raid over the centuries, the monstrous invasion, the country that is not there, The voice that came out of nowhere .. . more clear, those with Toyman).
Er, I do not deny, however, that Siegel is often indigestible and sometimes even ... indefensible. So I like, but ... not defend. Indeed, I add that if all the stories of Mickey Mouse were so, alas ...
Roger North
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 11 -
2010-03-09 at 18:43:52
Thanks Robb and Dia Dia.
Fritz Baugh
Jerry Siegel's Italian Disney stories
Message 12 -
2010-03-13 at 20:13:39
Am I the only one to notice a couple of stories Siegel had published directly through Western?
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+JW+++16-02
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+DD++146-01
How are those?
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+JW+++16-02
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+DD++146-01
How are those?
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