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Rich.Bellacera
Hi again. It's been a while since we have discussed the Character Reference
files so I thought now is as good as anytime to bring it up.

Well, the "Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters" came out finally
and I checked it over for any pertinent changes. There were none. About the
only thing this revised version accomplished was to include the films from
OLIVER & COMPANY to ALADDIN, and the Disney Television serials Ducktales
through Darkwing Duck. This is too bad since it would be wonderful to get
up-to-date on the current happenings of Goofy in "Goof Troop" (the latest
Disney Afternnon cartoon); and to see the official cannonization of Bonkers,
Fawn Deer and Marsupilami from Raw Toonage. The entries for the films "The
Little Mermaid" and "Aladdin" made no reference to their spin-off series of
the same names. Oh well, I guess that's where adlibbing comes in. In the
case of Goofy we are left in a quandry with respect to his son, Max. In the
old cartoons where Goofy is cast as "father" Goofy's name is George G. Geef
and his son is George Junior, Georgie, or just plain Goofy Junior. There is
marked inconsistency between the little redheaded, earless rapscallion from
these cartoon shorts and the current blackhaired incarnation appearing in GOOF
TROOP. Then there's the matter of "Who and where is Goofy's wife/Max's
mother?" I have my own theories concerning a certain Goofy cartoon "A Knight
for A Day" which co-starred the Princess Penelope and the third "dognose" pal
in the Minnie'n Me trio of Minnie, Daisy & Penny (which seems to directly
correspond to the Mickey trio of Mickey, Donald & Goofy). Of course, I'm
probably waaaay off base with the assumption that Penelope, Mrs. Geef and
Penny are one-and-the same, but it's not that far fetched of a concept.
However, that would still not explain "what happened to her?" I imagine this
will remain a Disney-Mystery for the forseeable future. I was really hoping
that the latest version of the encyclopedia would shed some light on this
mystery before I write Goofy's entry. Oh well. Any ideas?

I got the idea for the files' name (HOOZOO) from a childrens book written in
the late 1930s entitled "Mickey's HooZoo" which related a story about Mickey's
orignins from a small Kansas(?) farm where he, Minnie and many others first
became aquainted. Amazingly this book also marks the "first" appearance of
Donald Duck before he was concieved for the big screen. Of course his
appearance has been drastically altered, but it was him none-the-less. Other
farmhouse characters included Henry Horse (now called Horace Horsecollar);
Clara Hen (Madame Clara Cluck); Carolyn Cow (Clarabelle Cow); Claws (Bad
Pete?); Jenny Wren; Robert Rooseter; Tom, Dick & Harry Bunny; Olga Owl and
others. Most of these other characters never moved into animation, and those
who did went through a modification process. Mickey, Minnie, Donald and Jenny
are about the only ones who maintained their names despite their changed
appearances.

Following this article will be the first "HooZoo" file: Mickey Mouse. If you
have any constructive ideas about how to modify it, or data that should be
included, please advise. One thing that many sharp-eyed people will notice is
that I listed Mickey's first "official" film appearance (Steamboat Willie) and
not his first "real" film (Plane Crazy) which did not show until sometime
after Steamboat.

Thanks. We can discuss this in the open forum of Disney-Comics or privately
if you'd like.

-Rich
Rich.Bellacera
HOOZOO FILE #1: MICKEY MOUSE
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CHARACTER: MICKEY MOUSE
BREED: anthropomorphized mouse
REAL NAME OR FORMER ALIAS: Mortimer Mouse
FIRST PRINT APPEARANCE: Jan. 13, 1930 (comicstrip)
FIRST FILM APPEARANCE: Nov. 18, 1928 (animated cartoon: "Steamboat Willie")
KNOWN RELATIVES: Minnie (wife/girlfriend), Morty & Ferdie Fieldmouse,
Montie, Morrie, Marmaduke (nephews), Molly, Maisie (neices), Agatha, Marissa
(aunts), Mortimer (uncle).
PETS: Pluto the Pup, Bianca the Goldfish, Milton the Cat
FAMOUS SAYINGS: "Heh, heh" (nervous laugh)
HISTORICAL DETAILS:

Mickey Mouse is a clean-living, funloving, "nice guy". He is a hard worker
who puts his "all" into anything he attempts. Intelligent, quick-witted, and
a true optimist. Mickey is contemporary at all times. He is the kind of guy
who can make things happen! He's the best! he's everyone's favorite kind of
guy.

Throughout Mickey's "illustrious" carreer (in films, comics and merchandise)
he has held a number of occupations such as ghostbuster, fire fighter, prince,
ship captain, mason, bandleader, bellhop detective, statesman, etc.

As a family man, Mickey is a devoted lover and admirer of the fair Minnie.
According to official sources, he and the lady are indeed married, but this
information is strictly a matter of privacy. On screen he is the devoted
sutor; perpetually courting for Minnie's affections.

Mickey is often seen as an idealistic "master" to his devout pet and pal,
Pluto. The two are almost inseperable (at times).

Mickey is also often cast into the role of "father" to his two nephews, Morty
and Ferdie Feildmouse. Though at first he seemed quite frightened of the
thought of raising children ("Mickey's Nightmare" -1932), he has since come to
equitable terms with the idea.

Perhaps Mickey's greatest foe is Bad Pete, but then Pete is "everyone's"
greates foe. Pete has been Mickey's (and Donald's and Goofy's) perpetual
"thorn in the flesh" (angst).

Along with Minnie, Donald, Goofy and Pluto, Mickey is one of Disney's "Fab
Five" ( the line-up of Disney's top stars). Despite his status as "The
Embodiment of Disney Inc." he has since been upstaged by his two best friends
Donald & Goofy in cartoons and high jinks.

INTERESTING OR OBSCURE FACTS:
Voice Actors: Walt Disney (1929-1946); James McDonald (1946-1983); Wayne
Allwine (1983-present)
First Talkie: "Karnival Kid" -1929
First "real" Film: Plane Crazy -1928. "Steamboat Willie" was actually the
third film Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks produced.

ORIGIN:

Mickey Mouse really finds his origin in Walt Disney's earlier productions
called "The Alice Comedies" which were anthology about a "real" little girl
who finds herself in the world of animation. Her bestfriend is a silly
mischevious "cartoon" cat named Julius. Julius also went by the name "Mike"
and he and a mouse named "Ike" were teamed up in Walts personal attempt to
capitolize on the fame of "Krazy Kat." With the demise of the Alice
Comidies came an abrupt end to the careers of "Mike & Ike." Later, Walt
produced a series of cartoons featuring "Oswald the Lucky Rabbit." Walt
lost the rights to Oswald, but he too the concepts of Oswald and Ike and
fashioned a brand new character: Mortimer Mouse. Well, as the story goes,
Lillian Disney (Walt's wife) thought the name "Mortimer" was terrible and
she suggested "Mickey" and a legend was born.

CORPORATE INFO:

Mickey's Head (three perfect circles) is the known world-wide as the logo
and symbol for all things "Disney", and is usually equated with "whole-
someness."

NEXT: HOOZOO FILE #2: MINNIE MOUSE
Rich.Bellacera
I said the bookd "Mickey's HooZoo" came out in the late 1930's but that is
incorrect. I believe it was something more like 1932. If anyone is
interested I can send the name of the author, publisher and date the next time
I write (I don't have the book at work with me).

-Rich
Torsten Wesley Adair
On Fri, 19 Feb 1993, George Kesidis wrote:
> Hello all, A couple of years ago I used to read Harpers Mag.
> I remember reading that one of their contributors (I think he's from
> South America) wrote a book about the imperialist content in some Disney
> Comics, especially Uncle Scrooge. I thought it was a joke so I've forgotten
> the title of the book and author's name. Does anyone know if this book
> really exists?

How to read Donald Duck : imperialist ideology in the Disney comic
Ariel Dorfman, Armand Mattelart c1975
Translation of: Para leer al Pato Donald

Library of Congress call number HQ 784. C6 D6713x

I found this by using IRIS, the catalog of the University of Nebraska -
Lincoln. I have also seen this title at the University of Iowa.

It is about one hundred pages in length.

Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu
Andrea K Hakari
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Per Starbäck
Torsten answered most questions about the following book:

> How to read Donald Duck : imperialist ideology in the Disney comic
> Ariel Dorfman, Armand Mattelart c1975
> Translation of: Para leer al Pato Donald
>
> Library of Congress call number HQ 784. C6 D6713x

Earlier Jamal Hannah wrote:

> Yes, I saw that book, There was an origional copy made back around
> 1973 by some South American Marxist group, I think.. mabye
> it was Brazilian.

Nope, Chilean. The original was published in 1971, btw.

> There has recently been a re-issuing of the book (it has a note on
> the cover about its new edition status)..

Interesting! I guess it's very recent? At least there aren't any
new editions of the book in the Library of Congress.

> Full of alot of reproductions of panels by Carl Barks.

Yep, even though I don't think Dorfman and Mattelart cared about the
different artists. David Kunzle, who wrote an introduction to the
English translation, mentions Barks as "the creator of the best Donald
Duck stories" though, and praises him for his use of satire and social
realism.

He refers to two writers on Barks: Mike Barrier and Dave Wagner.
Well, I know about Mike Barrier, but who is Dave Wagner? Kunzle's
text only tells me that he's a Marxist and that he has written "Donald
Duck: An Interview" in Radical America, VII, 1973, pp 1--19. Anyone
seen that?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Jamal Hannah
Per Starback wrote:
> Interesting! I guess it's very recent? At least there aren't any
> new editions of the book in the Library of Congress.

Yes, I saw the new edition here at the Harvard Book Store a few months ago.

> He refers to two writers on Barks: Mike Barrier and Dave Wagner.
> Well, I know about Mike Barrier, but who is Dave Wagner? Kunzle's
> text only tells me that he's a Marxist and that he has written "Donald
> Duck: An Interview" in Radical America, VII, 1973, pp 1--19. Anyone
> seen that?

Well, since I live in Cambridge, Massachussetes, near where "Radical
America" is published, I can probably find out.

- jamal at silver.lcs.mit.edu
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Welcome, GCOOK! 8-)

Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yes, I've _heard_ of coral barques!"

(What do you think of this new signature? Only the word 'freak' is mine,
all the other stuff is stolen from other signatures or letters...)
Harry Fluks
(I guess this is only of interest for the other Dutch list member and
for our Rosa list editor.)

In DD Extra 2, 1993 (X93-02) the Rosa story coded AR 104 is published.
Also, the story "The Crocodile Collector" is announced for issue X93-03.

--Harry.

Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yes, I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
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