Keskustelujen arkisto

I'm sure this have been mentioned or talked about here on the list
already, but having been somewhat remiss in paying attention I can't
remember what was said... Thus this question, along with my excuses
if is seems repetitive to some. Anyway, I was just wondering whether
the Gemstone "Life and Time sof Scrooge McDuck" trade paperback
contains only the 12 original stories, or if it also includes Don's
additional "Life and Times"-chapters?

All the best,

/Mattias
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Paolo Castagno wrote:

> > > * The winner will get a prize at the next Rapallo
> > > comic-book festival at the Domina Astoria Hotel.
> >
> > When is that? It sounds like something interesting to attend.
>
> It surely is!
>
> Take a look at
>
http://www.afnews.info/public/afnews/viewnews.pl?newsid1120215967,35271,
.htm
> only in Italian, sorry, but there is also a nice Cavazzano
> drawing for the ones who can't read Italian!
>
> And maybe there will be some new surprises too! ;-)
>
> What about arranging an international DCML/I.N.D.U.C.K.S.
> meeting?
>
> - Paolo (who plans to be there!)

This sounds very interesting. But my Italian is not well enough to fully
understand what will be happening there between September 17 and October
2.
Let alone which date would be the best to have a meeting!

Maybe our Italians can tell more about this? (Luca Boschi, are you
involved?)

Thanks,
--Harry.

All:

> As you can see, only the 12 original chapters are included, not the
> later additional chapters.

A point of order: there are no additional chapters of Lo$. The twelve
chapters presented in Gemstone's collected Lo$ are the complete saga
as envisioned by Don Rosa. Certainly, Don has done further stories
based on the Lo$, but they should be regarded as "Tales from the Lo
$", not as chapters of the official saga. (The "chapter" designations
for these stories are for continuity reference - in the literary
sense they are meaningless.)

The virtue of the "Tales" angle is that Don can tell a story based on
any particular aspect of the Lo$ that he likes, while not being
locked into advancing the overall saga. One can have an awful lot of
fun with that sort of thing, and from the number of these stories
Don's done I have to suspect he's quite enjoyed it.

But these stories must exist in their own milieu. To try to plug them
into the official saga as actual chapters would severely damage the
very carefully worked out narrative structure and pace Don created
for the 12 official chapters. On the other hand, their intimate
connection to the official Lo$ makes it imperative to collect them
into a companion volume - and I'm as eager as anyone else to have one.

So rest easy; all the previous yammer really only leads to my saying
that Gemstone has every intention of collecting the "Tales". The
tricky part is that Don isn't done doing these stories, so we can't
be sure how complete this companion volume will be. To coin a phrase,
stay tuned.

> By the way, as far as I know, a limited hardbound edition is
> planned for release at a later point.

No yammer - this, as stated, is true. We do anticipate the hardbound
edition having additional and/or revised editorial material, so it
won't be a strict duplication of the trade paperback. And as for it
being limited - or having a special limited version - that remains to
be seen.

Gary

Hi everybody!

- Derek -

>>>how has death been portrayed in other Disney comic stories.
>>>Being Disney comics, I assume it hasn't/can't show up in the
>>>form of murder or anything gruesome like that (perhaps some
>>>very early 30's Gottfredson strips?), but I wonder if death has
>>>ever had an element in Disney stories in the form of illness,
>>>natural causes, etc. I couldn't really think of any examples
>>>beyond LO$, so perhaps some of you will.

SPOILERS AHEAD

There's the odd case of the Gottfredson "Mickey attempts suicide" strips, prompted by walt Disney himself. gottfredson explained it to David R. Smith in the interveiw reprinted in "Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse in Color-- 1930s Comic Strip Classics", pp 107-8 of the regular edition. it ran for about a week in late October 1931.

At the end of "Terrible Disguise", the Donald look-alike spy defenestrates himself.

There's plenty of "off-screen" shooting & killing in Gottfredson strips.
In "The World of Tomorrow", the very humane Mekka girl Mimi gets in the way of Pete's flame gun to protect Mickey; a fiery blast is all we see, then a pile of burnt gears.
There's one funny kind of death in "The pirate Ghostship": "The Walking Death"! At the end of the same story, the Pirate Pete gets burnt up by lava; one panel is trying to get away, carrying a huge treasure chest, pearl necklaces stringed around his neck, and coins in his pockets, with a mighty flow of lava inches away from him; the next panel, you see his hat an a pearl necklace burning on the lava river; pretty striking.

Olivier

This week I have been doing some travelling, since it's my holiday.
Usually I just head in a direction and see where I end up (also
depending on the weather).

On Saturday, I ended up in Brussels, Belgium (Mattias: I even was near
your home, but I didn't have your exact address, and chances that you
were home would be small anyway). I found a new PICSOU MAGAZINE there,
with Rosa's "Magnificent 7 Caballeros" story that I hadn't read before.

Yesterday, I ended up in Oberhausen (in Germany), and I bought some Rosa
albums in a comic shop there.
One of them contained "The Back Knight Glorps Again", which I hadn't
read either.

Last week, a new Dutch EXTRA DONALD DUCK EXTRA printed "A Letter From
Home". I also recently read that story in a Gemstone comic.

So within a month, I read new Rosa stories in 4 languages: English,
French, German, and Dutch! 8-)
Quite an enjoyable way to spend a holiday...

And expected in the shops tomorrow: a new BESTE VERHALEN album with
Barks' "How Green Was My Lettuce".
This version will reprint the 2 panels drawn by Rosa to fill in a blank.
The panels were scanned from the original Gladstone comic, and
colour-separated (all done by Inducks enthousiasts).

Apostolis: according to your Inducks index, these 2 panels are on the
cover of the Greek KOMIX 51. Is that true?

--Harry.

>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Death in Disney comics
>Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:13:12 EDT
>
>Hi all!
>
>Note: slight spoiler to Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck, though I assume
>nearly everyone reading this has either read it or knows about this aspect of the
>series.
>------------------------
>
>After reading the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck TPB, the deaths of
>Scrooge's parents led me to wonder how has death been portrayed in other Disney comic
>stories. Being Disney comics, I assume it hasn't/can't show up in the form of
>murder or anything gruesome like that (perhaps some very early 30's
>Gottfredson strips?), but I wonder if death has ever had an element in Disney stories
>in the form of illness, natural causes, etc. I couldn't really think of any
>examples beyond LO$, so perhaps some of you will.
>
>Derek Smith
>

As far as I know, we have never "witnessed" any deaths in the Duck/mouse-universe (with the exception of Scrooge's father that is), but they talk every so often about people who died now and then because of this and that.
The problem is, when bloodthirsty villains tries to commit murder, they always fail for some mysterious reason...

//Josefine

For another subtle example of death, see the ending of "King Scrooge the
First" (UNCLE SCROOGE # 71 1967) -- soon, I believe, to be reprinted by
Gemstone.

Joe Torcivia

Several other cases of "flagrant" death in Gottfredson (supervised) continuities: Drusilla and Jeremiah getting burned to death in the final panel of "The House of Mystery", and the crooks "Tricks" and "The Rhyming Man" buying it during the course of the story of Eega Beeva's "Atombrella." (It seems to me that Bill Walsh had a slightly ghoulish streak in him, considering the "body count" in his stories and the occasional "comic" references he made to characters getting killed.)

We shouldn't forget the mad professor crumbling into dust in Barks' "Ancient Persia." I know, I know, he was "freeze dried" rather than actually killed, but what do you think the chances are that he'll get out of THAT predicament?

Chris Barat

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