Keskustelujen arkisto

of my 7000+ comics and 2000+ books this one would be amongst the ten I would take with me to
and abandoned island. As it was not meant to be a complete edition but a "Best of". This is what it
is,
and as that it couldn#t be any better. A true labor of love and I am dumbfound why to this day the
deluxe edition is still available at original price. True, it is quite expensive. But then the
production value
makes it worth every dollar - and it is signed by Barks & Gottfredson. So if there is anybody
reading this
who is still undecisive about buying this book: Do it man - you won't regret it! Or at least try to
get the
regular edition.
The Mickey Mouse comic issues were a great read, even though I would have preferred to see the
strips
in their original format. For the issues the panels were rearranged to fit a standard comic book
page.

> There was always the hope of doing something of that sort, but, as with our abandoned Taliaferro
> collection, too many obstacles lay in the path of doing it right.

That is cruel, you know? Telling me of an abandoned Taliaferro edition. But I fear it would not have
sold enough.
A similar project here in Germany a few years ago was put on ice after three issues. Just a few days
ago I
ordered a huge edition with Al Taliaferro sundays from Italy - even though my only knowledge of the
Italian
language comes from 7 years of Latin in school ;-)

> The obstacles to doing the original Carl Barks Library "right" might have dissuaded us from
attempting it, too,
> except that it was the learning experience that taught us the realities of doing such things. As
it was perceived
> (rightly or wrongly, though comics sales strongly indicated rightly) that the audience for
Gottfredson wasn't as
> sizeable it was for Barks, and as we knew we would get far more interference from Disney and have
to put in
> a great deal more production effort on the material, the numbers and the expectations just didn't
come out in
> favor of a Floyd Gottfredson Library.

I don't have the slightest doubt that it was perceived rightly that a Gottfredson library would have
become a
financial disaster. And as I understand it many of the old strips (Mickey trying to commit suicide,
racial stereotypes, ...)
were banned by Disney in later years and couldn't be reprinted anyway.

> Let's hope that one day that picture will change, and it will happen. Dreams are good.

I put great faith in the future of digital media. I hope to see all the great strips of the past in
digital form to be read
on an eBook display. With the old Mickey Mouse strips I believe their copyright has expired so they
are public
domain now and everybody could digitize them. But after the trouble Eternity had with their
"Uncensored Mouse"
I won't be the one to try :-#

Cord

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one of the most beautiful Mickey in Disney comics, as well as hundreds of
illustrations for Le Journal de Mickey and Bebes Disney one-pagers.

In addition, Claude was a friend and one of the friendliest and cheerlful
person there is. I will remember our wonderful dinners with him in Paris,
his laugh and appetite for good food and the delights of life.

Mickey is grieving. I am too.

Didier

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remember seeing any recently, but the biggest part of the stories published
are from Brazil and Italy. As this titles are quite popular among young
kids, but not that popular among older ones, I wouldn?t expect many people
to recognise you, although there are always a couple of "older kids", like
me (31 and still collecting comics! - says my mother), for whom your name is
very familiar.

This email is already long enough, so I?ll stop here. If there?s anything
else you?d like to know, don?t hesitate to contact me.

Pedro Cravo

P.S. I said I would try to upload some pictures of the Oporto exhibit, but I
couldn?t find any worth uploading. Sorry!

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that Destuet has been (possibly) the first southamerican Disney author,
working for the Argentinian Abril ever since 1945 (Donald, el gran
goleador), up to 1959, when he reverted to his original creation,
"Trabuco y Trinquete" for the periodical "Salgari".

He also drew a few stories for the American Disney "Studio Program"
in the early sixties.

I'm afraid that's about all we know, at the moment...
You can find a list of stories by Destuet in INDUCKS, at

http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/

Cheers

Eta Beta

then someone *else* answered something that may have contradicted this
answer. (Or me and my suspicious mind just doubt it. ;-) )

Here goes:

At the end of the 1970's Thomas Andrae acquires proof sheets from Horst
Schroeder (who got these from a Swiss collector, who again -probably- got
these from an Italian archive). These proofs should cover the period from
1946 to 1955 (-right?). Other proofs were acquired from Bill Wright. Mickey
fan card from 1931 supplied by Andrae, himself. All other strips from 1930
up to the earliest of Bill Wright's proofs were reprinted from newspaper
prints.

Q1: How far back did the proof sheets from Bill Wright go?

So after Thomas Andrae had collected these strips/proof sheets, the first
20 sets were printed in Arizona by Byron Ericson.

Q2: When was this?

Q3: Were there 3 strips missing in the original 20 sets (and 3 strips
printed double) or did this happen in later prints, only?

Q4: Were all these original 20 sets bound? -and were they all hard cover?

Allegedly Horst Schroeder buys 2 sets: one bound and one unbound.

Q5: Was the unbound set really an *extra* set -and were there more extras
done?

Q6: Was this deal between Ericson/Andrae and Schroeder lined up at time of
print, and at that time known that Schroeder would do a larger run of sets?
If so it sounds a little strange that Schroeder did not do his prints at
the same time.

Schroeder's sets are portfolios, and the print run is limited.

Q7: Did Schroeder do 50 complete sets, only? And were the number stated
anywhere in the prints?

Q8: Is it some of these sets that are now resting in some Swedish basement,
because Disney (or someone else) has withdrawn the permission to sell
these?

Q9: When did Schroeder do these prints?

Peter Orban of " Comic Book Club Germany" start up a project similar to
Schroeder's All 26 years are to be reprinted as portfolios. The print run
is 500 copies of each portfolio. The project is stopped after 12 - 14
portfolios has been printed.

Q10: Was this stopped for financial reasons or was it due to Disney
withdrawing the licence (as with CBL)?

Q11: Were these printed from one of the original 20 sets (as Schroeder's
were), or were Peter Orban's done from a "second" generation print
(Schroeders?)?

Q12: How many years did Orban do exactly, and when did he do them?

Q13: Was this project finished by Horst Schroeder or not? and if so did he
continue printing the strips in portfolios or did he switch to bound books?

Some "loose" questions:

About the John Nichols edition of 200 sets:

Q12: Was this done from one of the original 20 sets, or from a "second"
generation print?

Q13: When was it done?

Some of the books "Wunderwurm" has are bound printed in 300 copies in East
Germany (- are these soft- or hard cover?). Where do they fit in? Were they
done only for *some* of the years in the span 1930 - 1955 or were there a
complete set done in 300 bound copies. If so -who did this set ??? Were
*these* really bootlegs as an East German publisher would probably not have
sleepless nights, over violating a print ban from the "capitalist Disney".

As you see I think there are still some unanswered questions regarding
these books/sets. I hope you guys will (again) help answering these!

As a little special it seems that "Wunderwurm's" set consists of a mix-up
of *3* editions: Orban's portfolios (500 copies), bound books (300 copies)
and the very first edition (20 copies) !!!

Or what????

I think it is worth trying to solve the mysteries about these various
editions. In contrast to the CBL -both in b&w and color -and even in
various languages- the Mickey Mouse dailies collections have lived a rather
quiet life. Despite being a Disney fan for more than 25 years I had not
even *heard* about these until 2 years ago -and then only as a vague rumour
that such a collection existed.

Best regards

Poul Frokjar, Denmark

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The DCML is dead! Long live the DCML!

For various reasons I haven't read the DCML myself most of the time
for a long time, and have only looked at list administrativia once
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active in the Swedish Donaldist organization NAFS(k). Now and then
I've thought about how it's not good to be the administrator if you
don't read the list regularly yourself, but those thoughts never
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One reason why that wasn't good was seen last year when there were
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I knew what I wanted to do instead, and I'm glad to say that this is
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So... this list, the Disney Comics Mailing List, is no longer owned
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> Technical question: Do we need to register all over again? Or is that
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