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3 weeks ago, Frank Stajano wrote a message about his visit to Don Rosa. Because of the length of the mail, I filed it and now I finally read it.

Thanks Frank! Your message was very enlightning and it quite matches the impressions that I already had.
I'll just add some comments.

> But please note these are my
> words, not his: I won't pretend or attempt to be his spokesman, and I
> have not run this email past him for checking or approval before
> sending it off. He might see things differently.

When I read this, I thought "yes, he probably *does* see things differently, after his retinal detachment".
(I hope you'll all forgive me for this bad joke.)

> When I visited him in January 2008
> I was his guest for a few days

That's probably the only way to be a guest at Don's: stay over for several days.
In 2005, I proposed to meet him at his home, but he wrote that he didn't have time for that. At that time I found that a bit strange: why wouldn't he have a few hours, or even only one hour, time for a visitor? I realise now that he must have meant that he had no time to have a visitor stay overnight.

> Now, for as long as Don did comics, he assiduously contributed to this
> mailing list (once the focal point of Disney comics lovers from all
> over the world, now sadly almost defunct; gathering places go in and
> out of fashion, I guess)

Yes, and interests of people change. I remember trying to keep all Disney comics discussions on DCML, to keep this list as interesting as possible. For instance, by asking people to post interesting news from other mailing lists and bulletin boards also here. But the number of "gathering places" grew a lot in the past few years, so I stopped trying.
It's a pity, though, that I now only see interesting stuff by coincidence. They are too often hidden on weblogs that no-one seems to be able to find back.

There were times that I especially asked Per Starb?ck to forward the DCML mails to a different mail address, for instance when I was a week on a course where I couldn't read my own mail. He would then send the DCML digest to a colleague who printed it and I would read it on paper.

But in the last years, the DCML mails pile up in my mailbox. There is still an unread mail from March 2008 and I don't seem to care...

Anyway, I *still* care about all the nice *people* I met during the past decades, mainly thanks to DCML. I hope to meet many of them in a few weeks in Italy, and maybe later this year in Denmark.

And a final comment: my e-mail address (at tno.nl) will be unavailable in a few weeks time.
I'm not even sure I will be able to read DCML mail (or any mail) on a regular basis.
In case anyone tries to reach me, send a mail to: h.w.fluks at wxs dot nl.

Thanks,
--Harry.
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On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 16:44, sekvenskonst at telia.com
<sekvenskonst at telia.com> wrote:

> I posted a Mickey Mouse Club tablet on my blog yesterday.
> Anyone who can identify where the Carl Barks cover is taken from?
> The image looks quite familar.
> http://sekvenskonst.blogspot.com/2009/05/carl-barks-tablet.html

Yep, it's from http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+OS++408-00

--
Francesco

Dear all

I could not find a comic about Scrooge and his
nephews in the orient. It was about Scrooge who
bought a "knick-knack" from a thief (Yu Foo) who
stole it from his cousin (Hum Chum). The object
turned out to be a key to a treasure,
ultra-strong silk from a special species of
silkworms. It was an English comic, but I forgot
which publisher published it. Can anyone help me locate it?

Wong from Hong Kong

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>3 weeks ago, Frank Stajano wrote a message about
>his visit to Don Rosa. Because of the length of
>the mail, I filed it and now I finally read it.
>
>Thanks Frank! Your message was very enlightning
>and it quite matches the impressions that I already had.
>I'll just add some comments.
>
> > But please note these are my
> > words, not his: I won't pretend or attempt to be his spokesman, and I
> > have not run this email past him for checking or approval before
> > sending it off. He might see things differently.
>
>When I read this, I thought "yes, he probably
>*does* see things differently, after his retinal detachment".
>(I hope you'll all forgive me for this bad joke.)
>
> > When I visited him in January 2008
> > I was his guest for a few days
>
>That's probably the only way to be a guest at
>Don's: stay over for several days.
>In 2005, I proposed to meet him at his home, but
>he wrote that he didn't have time for that. At
>that time I found that a bit strange: why
>wouldn't he have a few hours, or even only one
>hour, time for a visitor? I realise now that he
>must have meant that he had no time to have a visitor stay overnight.
>
> > Now, for as long as Don did comics, he assiduously contributed to this
> > mailing list (once the focal point of Disney comics lovers from all
> > over the world, now sadly almost defunct; gathering places go in and
> > out of fashion, I guess)
>
>Yes, and interests of people change. I remember
>trying to keep all Disney comics discussions on
>DCML, to keep this list as interesting as
>possible. For instance, by asking people to post
>interesting news from other mailing lists and
>bulletin boards also here. But the number of
>"gathering places" grew a lot in the past few years, so I stopped trying.
>It's a pity, though, that I now only see
>interesting stuff by coincidence. They are too
>often hidden on weblogs that no-one seems to be able to find back.
>
>There were times that I especially asked Per
>Starb?ck to forward the DCML mails to a
>different mail address, for instance when I was
>a week on a course where I couldn't read my own
>mail. He would then send the DCML digest to a
>colleague who printed it and I would read it on paper.
>
>But in the last years, the DCML mails pile up in
>my mailbox. There is still an unread mail from
>March 2008 and I don't seem to care...
>
>Anyway, I *still* care about all the nice
>*people* I met during the past decades, mainly
>thanks to DCML. I hope to meet many of them in a
>few weeks in Italy, and maybe later this year in Denmark.
>
>And a final comment: my e-mail address (at
>tno.nl) will be unavailable in a few weeks time.
>I'm not even sure I will be able to read DCML
>mail (or any mail) on a regular basis.
>In case anyone tries to reach me, send a mail to: h.w.fluks at wxs dot nl.
>
>Thanks,
>--Harry.
>This e-mail and its contents are subject to the
>DISCLAIMER at http://www.tno.nl/disclaimer/email.html
>
>
>
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>Subject: Carl Barks cover identification?
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>I posted a Mickey Mouse Club tablet on my blog yesterday.
>Anyone who can identify where the Carl Barks cover is taken from?
>The image looks quite familar.
>http://sekvenskonst.blogspot.com/2009/05/carl-barks-tablet.html
>
>/Joakim.
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>On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 16:44, sekvenskonst at telia.com
><sekvenskonst at telia.com> wrote:
>
> > I posted a Mickey Mouse Club tablet on my blog yesterday.
> > Anyone who can identify where the Carl Barks cover is taken from?
> > The image looks quite familar.
> > http://sekvenskonst.blogspot.com/2009/05/carl-barks-tablet.html
>
>Yep, it's from http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+OS++408-00
>
>--
>Francesco
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Wong wrote:
> I could not find a comic about Scrooge and his nephews in the orient. It was about Scrooge who bought a "knick-knack" from a thief (Yu Foo) who stole it from his cousin (Hum Chum). The object turned out to be a key to a treasure, ultra-strong silk from a special species of silkworms. It was an English comic, but I forgot which publisher published it. Can anyone help me locate it?

Here's the story you're looking for:
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+US+++74-02

Ciao,
Armando

Greetings!

The Weekend "Wall Street Journal" for May 24/25th has a nice article about the popularity of Donald Duck comic books (and Uncle Scrooge) in Germany:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203771904574181722075062290.html

One complaint: Carl Barks is hardly mentioned at all as the originator of the Duckburg Universe, and Don Rosa is completely invisible. To be fair, the purpose of the article is to show how the erudite translations of Erika Fuchs turned the Barks comics into minor classics in Germany.

An excerpt:

"Donald Duck?s popularity was helped along by Erika Fuchs, a free spirit in owlish glasses who was tasked with translating the stories. A Ph.D. in art history, Dr. Fuchs had never laid eyes on a comic book before the day an editor handed her a Donald Duck story, but no matter. She had a knack for breathing life into the German version of Carl Barks?s duck. Her talent was so great she continued to fill speech bubbles for the denizens of Duckburg (which she renamed Entenhausen, based on the German word for ?duck?) until shortly before her death in 2005 at the age of 98...

Dr. Fuchs?s Donald was no ordinary comic creation. He was a bird of arts and letters, and many Germans credit him with having initiated them into the language of the literary classics. The German comics are peppered with fancy quotations. In one story Donald?s nephews steal famous lines from Friedrich Schiller?s play ?William Tell?; Donald garbles a classic Schiller poem, ?The Bell,? in another. Other lines are straight out of Goethe, H?lderlin and even Wagner (whose words are put in the mouth of a singing cat). The great books later sounded like old friends when readers encountered them at school. As the German Donald points out, ?Reading is educational! We learn so much from the works of our poets and thinkers.?

Dr. Fuchs raised the diction level of Donald and his wealthy Uncle Scrooge (alias Dagobert Duck), who in German tend to speak in lofty tones using complex grammatical structures with a faintly archaic air, while Huey, Louie and Dewey (now called Tick, Trick and Track), sound slangier and much more youthful."

Best Wishes to all!

Leo Schulte

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Greetings!

A comment on the Wall Street Journal article, which?I wrote about last
time: when I was teaching German, I had my students read "A Christmas for
Shacktown" in the German version, and then we compared it to the
original.? One could see that the Barks version was a little slangier,
the jokes (at times)?"punchier," but that the German version by Prof.
Fuchs had its own merits.

It is sad that this tradition in America seems dead for the moment: maybe
someone will resurrect things here the way Gladstone did in the 1980's.?
Surely there is some budding artist who would like to?continue the
Barks/Rosa Tradition: on-line publishing might be an alternative to the
usal investment and risk in printing a paper comic book.

We will see what happens!

Best Wishes!

Leo Schulte

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Well, this seems like great news to me. I'm looking forward to hearing
more news as it becomes availible.

I wonder if they will publish normal 32 page books?

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Francesco Spreafico
<francesco.spreafico at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21344
>
> According to Rich Johnston, they have:
>
>
> ----
> EVERYBODY IN THE MOUSE GO BOOM
>
> I understand that Boom Studios has won the comic book license for
> "Walt Disney Comics And Stories," "Mickey Mouse And Friends," "Life
> and Times of Scrooge McDuck," "Donald Duck" and more.
> Boom has recently shown much promise with its well received Disney
> Pixar and "Muppet Show" comic books, and this seems reward for its
> efforts,
> Both titles were previously published by Steve Geppi's Gemstone, a
> publisher that has been seen to be suffering of late.
> Expect to see this reflected in solicitations shortly.
> ----
>
> Francesco
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