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What about Howard the Duck? I'll can download Disney Comics from the web
or S.H.I.E.L.D. will be prosecutes any webpage with old scanned editions?

Fabio

Rich escribi?:
> So... with the acquisition of Marvel under the banner of Disney, does this have
> positive results for the future of Disney comics in the USA? Will BOOM! and
> others eventually lose their contracts (or will not be renewed) in favor of
> gathering all Disney-related titles under Marvel (again... LOL)?
>
> Will there be new titles like "Pirates of the Carribean" and other successful
> movie tie-ins aside from just animated features?
>
> Will Spider-Ham ever meet the Duck Avenger?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich
> xephyr at cwnet.com
>
>

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Going off on a tangent to what Elaine Ramshaw wrote:

New Uncle Scrooge comics with Barks covers? Oh, happy day. We need
those, because our old ones are worn out. Seriously, I do hope those
covers are only mock-ups and new art will be commissioned. Why pay 3
bucks for another reprint of a Barks story, when you can buy the
original on eBay for a dollar more - or less, if you'll make do with
an earlier reprint? Well, okay, if it's a *shiny* cover...

I for one am hopeful that efforts to present new stories in Disney
comics to the American audience will be succesful.
Not only will the upcoming stories appeal to a wider audience than the
rusty ol' Barks canon, it may even turn out as less mediocre than
expected. The Disney readership may be getting older and more
conservative by the year. But don't forget that when Gladstone in the
early years decided to opt for renewal, names like Rosa, Rota, Scarpa,
and Van Horn exploded into recognition.
So give it a chance before you knock it, is all I'm saying.

"European mediocricy" is spoken like an oxymoronic mantra when it
comes to these stories, always by people who never read them.
Yet, when it comes to the Wizards of Mickey story arc you have to
wonder. The average-looking 6.2 rating on COA/INDUCKS hides a far from
average voting spread. ( See it for yourself at
http://coa.inducks.org/recommend.php?c=I+TL+2654-1P )
Half the votes are 0-1 or 9-10?! For a story in ten chapters, drawn by
seven different artists it seems likely that those votes are knee-jerk
love/hate votes. You may find the whole idea of Mickey reborn the
Wizard's apprentice in Tolkien meets Dragonball mode a little too
clever a marketing ploy, as do I. (But if it gets the kids to read
comics, I'll pass on the rant.) So there is no Duckburgian Smalltown,
USA of yesteryear, but the characters are the same. Like Tom Hanks is
always Tom Hanks whatever part he's playing.

You who already read the story and voted, please take a moment to
consider if you evaluated the story fairly. Many of you clearly
didn't, because it just doesn't consistently stink so badly over 266
pages. In all fairness, even if you loved it, it's not that brilliant
and original either.
If you are are yet to read it, please try to cast aside any prejudice
and read it on its own merit, then cast your vote.

I'm curious to see just how the development in rating will be.
Remember you can vote on the story even if you only read part of it
and then *change* you vote (yes!) as you journey through the epic
tale. A year from now we can take the discussion about if COA needs to
abandon the IMDB-type 0-10 point rating and adopt a simplified
win/lose, buy/pass, do/die approach to art appreciation. I would hope
not.

Just so you know, Elaine, before the troll hunters get on my
(duck)tail: I liked your mail. You qualified your opinions well and I
mean no harm to your planet. But I've read similar opinions more than
a few times now and I wanted to express a voice of dissent.
We square, ma'm?

-- Ole

Elaine Ramshaw wrote:
 
<<Today at the comic store I saw in the new catalog-for-stores that BOOM! is going to put out an Uncle Scrooge comic! Like some others who read this list, I have been disappointed by BOOM!?s plans for the Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse and WDC titles, since they all will initially feature mediocre European stories that try to recast the classic characters as superheroes, wizards, detectives, etc., rather than letting them be their funny "everyperson" selves. But the Uncle Scrooge covers proposed are drawn by Barks or by Rosa, which looks hopeful. Has anyone heard any rumors of what they plan to publish in the U$ comic? And I am looking forward with some hope to the hardcover collections they?re planning with adult collectors in mind (Christmas classics, Valentine?s classics, Donald ?Quack Up? etc.).>>
 
The description of U$ has been rather vague, but I'm expecting a mixture of Barks/Rosa reprints and some Italian Scrooge stories like the ones that occasionally appeared in Gemstone comics after the pocket books were cancelled.
 
I have to say now that I'll be rooting for Boom! to succeed, despite my trepidation about some of their "new directions."  I'm not optimistic as to what Marvel might do with the classic characters if Disney gives the license to "The House of IOU's, er, Ideas."
 
Chris Barat

I never got around to reading the last 4-5 Gemstone Uncle Scrooges and
Walt Disney's Comics and Stories - and before Gemstone went under, i was
seriously considering no longer buying these comics. Even though i've been
reading them for over 40 years. Even though i find even the worst Dell Disney
to be entertaining -

If (as expected) the Boom!s are a bust - the price point at least will
make me buy a handful of issues.
I really do want to enjoy Disney comics for another 20 years - but I sure
wont if they are like the later Gemstones.

I know that some of you like this stuff, and im glad for you. if enough
of you do, then Disney comics will be in the USA awhile.

grumpy ole Steven Rowe

Ole Nielsen:
 
<<I for one am hopeful that efforts to present new stories in Disney comics to the American audience will be succesful. Not only will the upcoming stories appeal to a wider audience than the rusty ol' Barks canon, it may even turn out as less mediocre than expected.>>
 
Ole, never forget the "Brave New World" sequence from "The Tempest" -- no matter how "rusty" the Barks canon might seem to older readers, "tis new to" a whole new generation of kids.  Several Barks tales were reprinted in the recently released TOON TREASURY OF CHILDREN'S CLASSICS and I, for one, was glad to see that.  Gemstone, I believe, had a good mix of "old favorites" and interesting new stories.  Boom! at least seems somewhat willing to look out for the long-timers through its announced handling of UNCLE $CROOGE and the occasional "classic" releases (though I do wish that they'd release the latter in a less expensive format).
Francesco re Wizards of Mickey:
 
<<We're talking about some of the worst Disney stories ever written. It's not a matter of being European, it's just that franky, they suck beyond belief.>>
 
I'm willing to give them a fair chance to win me over.  Given the (generally) positively received Shambor stories run by Gemstone, I actually am more optimistic about Wizards of Mickey  than I am about Ultra-Heroes, with its passel of unfamiliar (to American audiences) characters/guises. 
 
Steven Rowe:
 
<<I never got around to reading the last 4-5 Gemstone Uncle Scrooges and Walt Disney's Comics and Stories - and before Gemstone went under, i was seriously considering no longer buying these comics.  Even though i've been reading them for over 40 years. Even though i find even the worst Dell Disney to be entertaining.>>
 
I'd be interested to know what you objected to in these last issues.
 
Chris Barat

Ole, I enjoy your postings, and certainly take no umbrage at your comments
in this one.

I could refine my comments: my happiness at seeing Barks and Rosa mock-up
covers was not a sign that I want BOOM! to publish lots of Barks
reprints-though I think that throwing in a few of the Barks stories that are
not too dated is a fine thing. I just took those covers as a cue that they
might take U$ in a different direction from the proposed initial stories for
DD, MM and WDC, to which I do not look forward. I have no chauvinistic
reaction against European stories in general; I like lots of stories written
or drawn by Marco Rota, Daan Jippes, Evert Geradts, Jan Kruse, Ben Verhagen,
Kari Korhonen, Gorm Transgaard, etc. What I don't like are: (1) stories that
are not well written, no matter what the set-up; and (2) stories that turn
the ducks/mice into entirely different sorts of characters in a fantastical
setting. I don't need Duckburg as an idealized 1950's town, though I respect
Rosa's decision to stick with the original Barksian time frame. But I want
the ducks (who, as Rosa says, are humans who just happen to look like ducks)
to be recognizable "people" who stay in character. They may encounter the
occasional ghost or sea monster or person with magical powers, but they have
no magical powers or superpowers themselves, and deal with such encounters
with the same options and limitations you or I would have. (Well, with the
exception that you and I do not have a Junior Woodchucks Guidebook.) Of
course they shouldn't be limited to Duckburg; that's the whole point of
Scrooge's money, from the plot-writer's POV--that it can take them all over
the world in many sorts of adventures. But wherever they go, I prefer them
to be mortals like me, and recognizable as the personalities I know and
love, people who do have "everyday" lives back home in Duckburg, going to
school, struggling to make a living. If I want superheroes, I'll read
superhero comics. If I want Tolkienian fantasy, I'll read Bone. If I want a
secret spy agency, I'll watch James Bond or Spy Kids. I don't think the
ducks are suited to such story-lines. They seem like they have been lifted
out of their "real life" into a story where they don't belong.

Tom Hanks isn't always Tom Hanks in his movies; he's quite different
characters who all happen to resemble Tom Hanks. (Only a bad actor or a
typecast actor is the same character in every movie.) In some of the fantasy
or superhero stories, it seems to me that the characters are different
characters who just happen to look like Donald & Co. As if, indeed, they
were being "played by" Donald & Co., who are the actors, and who are not
present in the stories as themselves.

Elaine

Hello--
my request will seem odd, as it doesn't directly concern ducks or comics. But I have corresponded with some of you in the Netherlands and I know others have lived and worked there, and I've run into a question....
I am having to learn a Dutch/English accent for a play, and my research on the internet, on CDs, in dialect books, etc. has yielded examples of Dutch-English accents that do not resemble one another in the least! I believe these are all native speakers, but none of them sound alike.
Can someone direct me to the "classic" or most typical Dutch-English accent? I would like to hear as many examples as I can in order to learn it properly.
Thank you all for your time.
CG