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Catherine &Doug Banks
Hello Carmen.

I wondered whether (7 years ago) you got the words to the song you wanted
which had some words "Papaveri e papri, son alti, alti, alti....." etc.
The reason is that I too would like the words to that song and I found your
request when I Googled a bit of it. I just wondered whether or not you
received any replies to your query?

Catherine
Mike Devery
Hi all,
I have some issues of The Duckburg Times (issue 13, issue 17/18,
issue 24/25) that I would like to send (free) to a good home.
Copies of the first 2 can be seen on eBay. Issue 24/25 was a
Ducktales special.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/THE-DUCKBURG-TIMES-13-CARL-BARKS-HALLOWEEN-NM_W0QQitemZ360188101784

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Duckburg-Times-17-18-Early-1934-Barks-art_W0QQitemZ150209250823

I also have a copy of The Comics Journal, no. 73, featuring a Carl
Barks interview. Again, another copy is on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/COMICS-JOURNAL-73-CURT-SWAN-interview-CARL-BARKS-photo_W0QQitemZ160414571862

Let me know if you want these.

Cheers,
Mike.
Guy Lapointe
Hi Mike,

I would love to provide a good home for your issues and to pay for your postage. I grew up with Donald and company - I found comfort in their idealistic imaginary world during the more difficult years of my life.

thank you

Guy

Lancelot1953 at msn.com

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Subject: free to good home

Hi all,

I have some issues of The Duckburg Times (issue 13, issue 17/18, issue
24/25) that I would like to send (free) to a good home.

Copies of the first 2 can be seen on eBay. Issue 24/25 was a
Ducktales special.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/THE-DUCKBURG-TIMES-13-CARL-BARKS-HALLOWEEN-NM_W0QQitemZ360188101784

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Duckburg-Times-17-18-Early-1934-Barks-art_W0QQitemZ150209250823

I also have a copy of The Comics Journal, no. 73, featuring a Carl
Barks interview. Again, another copy is on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/COMICS-JOURNAL-73-CURT-SWAN-interview-CARL-BARKS-photo_W0QQitemZ160414571862

Let me know if you want these.

Cheers,

Mike.
Ole Damgaard
Hello list.
I just received the following message from komiks.dk, the comic con in
Copenhagen (next time 2010-05-21)

//quote:

Dutch cartoonist Daan Jippes is known for his work on Donald Duck and
other Disney characters, and in May he is attending the
http://www.facebook.com/l/893d6;Komiks.dk Festival.

Daan Jippes is known and loved by Donald Duck fans for his vivid and
lively drawing style, which is very much inspired by that of the great
Carl Barks. His career in comics started in the 60s, where he had
stories printed in Dutch magazine Pep and later on he became
nationally recognized with the album Bernard Voorzichtig: Twee Voor
Thee.

In the mid 70s he started working on the Donald Duck magazine in
Holland, and thus a career with Disney started. His unique style and
interpretations of the beloved characters caught the attentions of the
Disney Studios in Burbank, California, after which he was hired to
work in the merchandizing department and later for the animation
department as a storyboarder and designer. He worked on several now
classic Disney movies such as Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin.

Jippes was asked to redraw some old Junior Woodchucks stories written
by Carl Barks in the mid 90s by Egmont. Jippes dynamic style brought
these stories to a new audience.

These days Jippes works as a comics artist in Holland for various
magazines and publishers.

Daan Jippes is presented in association with The Netherlands
Foundation for Visual Arts, Design and Architecture, known in the
Netherlands as Fonds BKVB

//unquote
Kneon Transitt
If anyone is curious how the standard character Disney books have been
performing in the direct market, I've been keeping a running tally here:
http://dcf.outducks.org/viewtopic.php?id=590

Peace,
Kneon Transitt
http://kneontransitt.blogspot.com
Schulte
Greetings!

Thanks to Kneon Transitt for the figures on sales: it is interesting to see that Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge #623 had sales of over 7,000, but then immediately a decline took place, stabilizing to around 4,000 per issue.

Anybody have any deductions (or de-duck-tions) as to why that happened? Not enough Rosa stories, too many reprints,...?

Best Wishes!

L. Schulte
Brian Tucker
Interesting. I'm surprised that they are selling as well as they are. For
the most part, they are very poor comics with poor stories, scribbly
artwork, and poor translations. Mickey Mouse & Friends seemed to be selling
as well as the other titles, but it was dropped mid-story. While it is good
to have Disney comics in North America again, these are pretty pathetic.

The hardcovers are nice, but are selling extremely poorly. They would
probably do better if they included a detailed listing of the contents in
their solicitations. I've suggested this to them twice, but received no
response.

Brian

----- Original Message -----

> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:51:56 -0400
> From: Kneon Transitt <hey.kneon at gmail.com>
> Subject: U.S.A. Disney comics sales figures

> If anyone is curious how the standard character Disney books have been
> performing in the direct market, I've been keeping a running tally here:
> http://dcf.outducks.org/viewtopic.php?id=590
>
> Peace,
> Kneon Transitt
> http://kneontransitt.blogspot.com
Francesco Spreafico
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 21:51, Brian Tucker <dogfish35 at telus.net> wrote:

> Interesting. I'm surprised that they are selling as well as they are. For
> the most part, they are very poor comics with poor stories, scribbly
> artwork, and poor translations.

This most definitely changed with the publication of WDC 703. Now
you're simply getting the best there is.

Francesco
Gary Leach
Leo,

> Thanks to Kneon Transitt for the figures on sales: it is interesting
> to see that Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge #623 had sales of over 7,000,
> but then immediately a decline took place, stabilizing to around
> 4,000 per issue.
>
> Anybody have any deductions (or de-duck-tions) as to why that
> happened? Not enough Rosa stories, too many reprints,...?

I got no deductions, sorry to say. I just know that I went into the
Gemstone project with cautious optimism and came out disillusioned,
yet again, about the standard Disney characters getting any traction
in today's US comics market.

My biggest personal regret is that a couple of Duck scripts I arranged
for Gemstone from two of my favorite pro writers never wound up being
drawn. I like to think they would've paid off, modestly at least, but
now we'll never know.

Gary
Kneon Transitt
I don't have an easy answer, either. I do see that Boom's numbers are
dropping faster than Gemstone's, and in a much shorter period of time. We've
gone from WDC&S selling close to 7,000 books in October to dipping under
4,000 copies last month. DDF and Hero Squad have fallen off the Diamond Top
300 completely at this point.

I think part of the problem is that while Boom has been going after kids
with these titles, the genre-specific content and format has also alienated
the hardcore collectors who supported the Gemstone books. It could also be
that there are just too many Disney books on the shelf now, and that each
new book dilutes the readership for one of the other books. It could be that
the direct market isn't the place to peddle standard character Disney books,
as kids don't spend a lot of time in comic book shops in 2010. It could be
any of the above... it could be all of the above... and it could be some
other reason we're just not aware of. One thing is for certain, however,
it's *not* because the characters aren't worth reading.

Another theory being kicked around in that thread is that maybe more
American creators could create stories with the characters to appeal more to
today's American kids, vs. simply using reprints of stories written for
overseas markets. (I'm in that camp myself, but want to stress that I'm in
no way belittling European or Italian produced stories... just pointing out
that those stories are targeting kids in a totally different market.)

I think Darkwing Duck will do well. But again, it's going for nostalgia, and
I have to wonder how many kids will latch on to a comic book sequel to a
20-year-old cartoon show that's been off the air for a decade or longer. If
it's written under presumption that readers are already familiar with the
cartoon show, then, well... it'll have limited appeal. But nostalgia sells
in the direct market, and I predict some good numbers.

But that's just a mini-series, isn't it? And it doesn't help the other books
any.

Frankly, I don't have any answers. Just pointing out some numbers, and
wondering how long it'll be until the Disney comics rug gets pulled out from
underneath us Americans again. :-/

Peace,
Kneon
http://kneontransitt.blogspot.com
Kneon Transitt
According to this, Steve Geppi's house has been repossessed and his wife is
filing for divorce. That's news to me. Yikes!

http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/news/checker-explains-separation-from-diamond-distribution

The Gemstone freelancers who haven't been paid for everything have an even
slimmer chance of getting paid now. :(

Peace,
Kneon
http://kneontransitt.blogspot.com
Familien Enget
Mr Leach,

How come Disney comincs sells so bad in the US compared to the good numbers in Europe, among them Norway?
Ever since I first picked down a copy of Whitman's Donald Duck and WDC&S around 30 years ago at a newsstand, and was allowed to buy one of them, I have been an eager reader and collector of the US Disney Comics, and followed up with subscriptions when Gladstone took over... There ought to be a huge potential over there! I mean, you population is above 300 millions, we are not even five, and Donald Duck weekly sells a few 100 thousands, every week!

Erlend, Norway
Chris Barat
Everyone,
 
I've posted a line graph of Kneon's data at my "News and Views" blog.  I think that Kneon makes an excellent point regarding the sheer amount of material that Boom! has released... in particular, the decision to release all of the continuing stories -- good, bad, and indifferent -- in collected form.  I wonder whether the drops in sales in later months might not have something to do with people waking up to the fact that the material in the monthlies will be reprinted fairly soon in any event, so why not wait to purchase it in that more convenient, reader-friendly format?  If we see an uptick in the sales of the collections while the sales of the monthlies continue to go down, I'm going to get very suspicious.
 
Boom! has done a very good job with the "classics" collections, and I'm sorry to see how poorly they've sold to comic-book stores.  The x factor is, what kind of distribution do they have in book stores and the like?  I haven't seen any Boom! works in the stores I visit.
 
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Leo,

Thanks to Kneon Transitt for the figures on sales: it is interesting to see that Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge #623 had sales of over 7,000, but then immediately a decline took place, stabilizing to around 4,000 per issue.
 
Anybody have any deductions (or de-duck-tions) as to why that happened?  Not enough Rosa stories, too many reprints,...?
I got no deductions, sorry to say. I just know that I went into the Gemstone project with cautious optimism and came out disillusioned, yet again, about the standard Disney characters getting any traction in today's US comics market.

My biggest personal regret is that a couple of Duck scripts I arranged for Gemstone from two of my favorite pro writers never wound up being drawn. I like to think they would've paid off, modestly at least, but now we'll never know.

Gary  

I don't have an easy answer, either. I do see that Boom's numbers are dropping faster than Gemstone's, and in a much shorter period of time. We've gone from WDC&S selling close to 7,000 books in October to dipping under 4,000 copies last month. DDF and Hero Squad have fallen off the Diamond Top 300 completely at this point.I think part of the problem is that while Boom has been going after kids with these titles, the genre-specific content and format has also alienated the hardcore collectors who supported the Gemstone books. It could also be that there are just too many Disney books on the shelf now, and that each new book dilutes the readership for one of the other books. It could be that the direct market isn't the place to peddle standard character Disney books, as kids don't spend a lot of time in comic book shops in 2010. It could be any of the above... it could be all of the above... and it could be some other reason we're just not aware of. One thing is for certain, however, it's *not* because the characters aren't worth reading.

Another theory being kicked around in that thread is that maybe more American creators could create stories with the characters to appeal more to today's American kids, vs. simply using reprints of stories written for overseas markets. (I'm in that camp myself, but want to stress that I'm in no way belittling European or Italian produced stories... just pointing out that those stories are targeting kids in a totally different market.)

I think Darkwing Duck will do well. But again, it's going for nostalgia, and I have to wonder how many kids will latch on to a comic book sequel to a 20-year-old cartoon show that's been off the air for a decade or longer. If it's written under presumption that readers are already familiar with the cartoon show, then, well... it'll have limited appeal. But nostalgia sells in the direct market, and I predict some good numbers.

But that's just a mini-series, isn't it? And it doesn't help the other books any.

Frankly, I don't have any answers. Just pointing out some numbers, and wondering how long it'll be until the Disney comics rug gets pulled out from underneath us Americans again. :-/

Peace,
Kneon
http://kneontransitt.blogspot.com

According to this, Steve Geppi's house has been repossessed and his wife is filing for divorce. That's news to me. Yikes!http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/news/checker-explains-separation-from-diamond-distributionThe Gemstone freelancers who haven't been paid for everything have an even slimmer chance of getting paid now. :(Peace,Kneonhttp://kneontransitt.blogspot.com

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Nicolas Roudier (Internet)
I am going bonkers trying to locate the story I remember as a kid (dob
'41) and apparently used by a creative writing class at Vanderbuilt
(sp?) University a decade or two ago (heard NPR story on car radio).

The panel I recall has Donald and the nephews (and Uncle Scrooge?)
coming down (going up) a mountain trail and the character leading a
Llama (?) is tea pouring from a teapot affixed to his hat (?) for one
of them. I could swear it had something to do with square bubbles
(bubble gum?) but the only 'square' story is the egg one and when my
daughter got me that one for Christmas a few years ago it didn't look
familiar.
Nicolas Roudier (Internet)
Sorry for the last (uncomplete) mail... :-(

I was told recently, via my website http://duckstories.free.fr, about a
story of Carl Barks that I can't find.

That person is an old man who discovered Barks at his time in the 40's. Here
is his message, thank you to tell me if you recognize the story (I didn't
find it obviously in "Lost in the Andes" but I could swear too that I've
seen the panel he's talking to...)

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I am going bonkers trying to locate the story I remember as a kid (dob '41)
and apparently used by a creative writing class at Vanderbuilt (sp?)
University a decade or two ago (heard NPR story on car radio).

The panel I recall has Donald and the nephews (and Uncle Scrooge?) coming
down (going up) a mountain trail and the character leading a Llama (?) is
tea pouring from a teapot affixed to his hat (?) for one of them. I could
swear it had something to do with square bubbles (bubble gum?) but the only
'square' story is the egg one and when my daughter got me that one for
Christmas a few years ago it didn't look familiar.
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Nicolas Roudier - Duckstories

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