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D.M. Van Eijmeren
I've an issue of Mickey Jeux that apparently is not in Inducks.
How can I identify the issue number?
See: http://mcdrake.nl/temp/Mickey_Jeux_unknown_cover.jpg

One of the stories is:
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=F+JM+86042

--- Daniel

"Keep ringin', bud! There's nobody home!"
(which Barks story?)
D.M. Van Eijmeren
I've an issue of Donald Amca that apparently is not in Inducks.
How can I identify the issue number?
See: http://mcdrake.nl/temp/Donald_Amca_unknown_cover.jpg

One of the stories is:
http://coa.inducks.org/s.php?c=D+93483

--- Daniel

"Keep ringin', bud! There's nobody home!"
(which Barks story?)
D.M. Van Eijmeren
MIKE DEVERY, 17-07-2010:

> Infamous only because it's the most expensive issue to
> (try to!) buy. I've seen it go for $200 (US) on ebay.

I'm rich! I'm rich!!
You may have mine for $199 (US). ;-)

> Like many other people (it seems) I had stopped buying
> it regularly at the time, so I don't have a copy.

Like happens now with the Boom comics? :-)

--- Daniel

"Keep ringin', bud! There's nobody home!"
(which Barks story?)
Frank Stajano
D.M. van Eijmeren wrote:
> I've an issue of Mickey Jeux that apparently is not in Inducks.
> How can I identify the issue number?
> See: http://mcdrake.nl/temp/Mickey_Jeux_unknown_cover.jpg

Next to the barcode it says "num?ro hors s?rie du Journal de Mickey",
meaning more or less "special issue, without an issue number, of the
Journal de Mickey"... so I guess it really doesn't have one. In order
for it to get indexed in Inducks, an indexer would have to make one up.

--

Frank Stajano http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/fms27/
Francesco Spreafico
Personally, I only care about the quality of the stories, not where
they're published. WDC&S currently prints the best stories created in
maybe the last 20 years. So, with that, Boom is doing an excellent
job. Of course I'm just talking about WDC&S here, starting with issue
703. If you're not buying you're missing something you should be
buying, if you like Disney Comics.

Francesco
Carl Lund
>
> From:
> Francesco Spreafico <francesco.spreafico at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:07:36 +0200
>
> To:
> DCML <dcml at nafsk.se>
>
>
> Personally, I only care about the quality of the stories, not where
> they're published. WDC&S currently prints the best stories created in
> maybe the last 20 years. So, with that, Boom is doing an excellent
> job. Of course I'm just talking about WDC&S here, starting with issue
> 703. If you're not buying you're missing something you should be
> buying, if you like Disney Comics.
>

Wow. If I were unfamiliar with Disney stories from the past 20 years--I
assume you're limiting the criteria to those--and looked at the quality
of C&S my thought would be "No wonder Disney comics are in such bad shape."

Since I am a little familiar with those stories, I think instead that I
whole-heartedly disagree with that assessment as the quality of the
stories selected. While some have their charms, as a whole there is
nothing in the same realm of excellence as Don Rosa's work. For that
matter, Daan Jippes' re-drawings of Barks' Junior Woodchucks stories are
far better. Personally, I was never a fan of William Van Horn, but his
stuff was far better than what I'm seeing in BOOM's C&S as well.

The stories in C&S remind me a little bit of the stories in some of the
Western Publishing "funny animal" comics from my childhood (and older
copies from my dad's childhood). They're interchangeable. In the
Western days, even as a kid, I thought that there were stories that
featured, say, Bugs Bunny. Those same stories could've (and sometimes
were) been retold with Porky Pig or Woody Woodpecker or, for that
matter, Mickey Mouse as the lead character without being significantly
changed. They were all about plot and not about character (not that I
necessarily could explain the importance of characterization and
character development as a pre-teen). Now an entertaining plot is
important, but without attention to character everything ends up reading
pretty similarly or at least pretty dryly. That is probably the key
problem I see in all of BOOM's current stuff--including C&S which has
some stories that are entertaining, but I would never want to hold them
up as exemplars of the best Disney comics has had to offer in the past
twenty years.

Carl
Shad Daly
Disney Comics scheduled to be released to comic book stores in USA and
Canada this week (July 14 2010):

BOOM! STUDIOS
Darkwing Duck #2, $3.99
Donald Duck And Friends #356, $2.99
Finding Nemo Losing Dory #1, $2.99
Incredibles #11, $2.99

--
Shad Z.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ^Q^
My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
Kriton Kyrimis
> How can I identify the issue number?
> See: http://mcdrake.nl/temp/Donald_Amca_unknown_cover.jpg

The text at the top right says "Year: 4 Number: 10" in Turkish.

Looking at cover scans at coa, year 3 number 1 is January 1997, so this is
probably the October 1998 issue.

Kriton.
-----
"I'm allergic to decapitation; It's bad for the circulation."
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Francesco Spreafico
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 14:29, Carl Lund <clund at cox.net> wrote:

> Since I am a little familiar with those stories, I think instead that I whole-heartedly disagree with that assessment as the quality of the stories selected.? While some have their charms, as a whole there is nothing in the same realm of excellence as Don Rosa's work.? For that matter, Daan Jippes' re-drawings of Barks' Junior Woodchucks stories are far better. Personally, I was never a fan of William Van Horn, but his stuff was far better than what I'm seeing in BOOM's C&S as well.

I should have pointed it before: I'm not a duck fan: I'm a Disney
comics fan. Mickey works for me. And when it's good it works even
better than Donald or Scrooge. I love Mickey. So, yes, I can't help
liking Casty's stories (and these two stories Boom has published so
far are probabily his best) even better than Don Rosa's (that I love).
They're character-driven, they have great plots, they're not stupid,
their characters are not stupid, they feature the same great Mickey
that Gottfredson, Walsh and Scarpa used like no one so constantly
before him. So... yes, I understand that for duck fans WDC might be a
bit of a let down right now. But for Disney fans it's a gift.

Francesco
D.M. Van Eijmeren
Many thanks to the people helping with answers to my identification
questions!

ARTHUR FARIA, 17-07-2010:

>> next week: Mickey Mouse in Africa. Stan Livingstone is
>> missing. Mickey and Goofy search for their friend,
>> helped by the berries of the bottomless lake.
>> http://mcdrake.nl/temp/Mickey_Magazine_Vlaams_230_03.jpg
>> (bottom)

> http://coa.inducks.org/s.php?c=YM+124

The Dutch editor who helped, says it must be 'The Impossible Berries' by
Jack Bradbury.
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+MM+++35-02

--- Dani?l

"Keep ringin', bud! There's nobody home!"
(which Barks story?)
hint #1: "Who said that?"
Afaria
D.M. van Eijmeren:

>> next week: Mickey Mouse in Africa. Stan Livingstone is
>> missing. Mickey and Goofy search for their friend,
>> helped by the berries of the bottomless lake.
>> http://mcdrake.nl/temp/Mickey_Magazine_Vlaams_230_03.jpg
>> (bottom)

> The Dutch editor who helped, says it must be 'The Impossible Berries' by
> Jack Bradbury.
> http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+MM+++35-02

Oh, yeah, that's right.
I think I've made a guess too fast for this one,
just supposing it would be the next story after YM 123,
which is also in Africa... :(

- -Arthur.
Olivier
>>>> "Keep ringin', bud! There's nobody home!"
>>>> (which Barks story?)
>>>> hint #1: "Who said that?"

I'm surprised nobody has answered it yet; must be the summer vacations & the
heat.
Without any hint, I knew it was from the story in which Donald wants to
spend his time in bed but keeps being bothered by salesmen-- WDC&S # 83,
August 1947.
Great story !

As for Boom's comics, thank you to all who comment on them: I haven't seen a
single issue yet (no distribution through amazon, unlike Gemstone, makes it
harder & more expensive for me to get those), and I value your input
greatly.

Olivier
Chris Barat
I have to side with Francesco as to the quality of the Casty tales in COMICS & STORIES.  They have been the least of my worries re Boom! of late.  I see the Castys as a heartfelt and well-executed tribute to the Gottfredson-Walsh era, and that's a-ok with me.  What one can criticize is the formatting of the individual issues.  Chopping up the backup stories, as well as the main story, takes the idea of "to be continued..." much too far.  I'd much rather Boom! use full Duck stories as backups, even if that necessitates a larger number of parts for the Casty stories.  That would help to balance the "all Mickey" aspect of the present C&S. 
 
The foibles of Boom! UNCLE $CROOGE are of much greater concern to me right now.  The first couple of DUCKTALES-themed issues have fallen disappointingly short of expectations, though I am glad to see that Boom! is using complete stories (even ones filched from DISNEY ADVENTURES and more or less rewritten) in these books. 
 
Re the rest of the Boom! output, the decision to discontinue HERO SQUAD and WIZARDS OF MICKEY, take a hiatus on the DOUBLE DUCK stories in DONALD & FRIENDS, and bring back MICKEY & FRIENDS presents Boom! with a golden opportunity to win back some of the doubters who had sworn off the "new directions" of these titles.  With these changes, Boom! will more closely resemble a "classic Disney comics" line than it ever has before (and yes, I'm counting DARKWING DUCK -- think early 90s Disney Comics before the implosion).  Why not give Bill Van Horn some space in D&F for however many hitherto-unseen Duck stories he has produced?  Or print unseen Ferioli- or Noel Van Horn-drawn stories in M&F?  They're out there, they just need to be used...
 
Chris
Shad Daly
> From:?Chris Barat <kimba_1962 at verizon.net>
> To:?dcml at nafsk.se
> Date:?Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:45:13 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject:?[SPG:rpd=10] Some Boom! Thoughts
>
> Re?the rest of the Boom! output, the decision to discontinue HERO SQUAD and WIZARDS OF MICKEY

Those titles aren't really being discontinued, are they? They are
coming to natural ends because the (rather long) stories they are
reprinting are over, right? In other words, those two series were
always limited series from the start (even though they weren't
advertised that way) because the material they are reprinting is
finite...

--
Shad Z.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ^Q^
My Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~shadzane/
My Web Site: http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
Chris Barat
Shad Daly wrote:
 
<<Those titles aren't really being discontinued, are they? They arecoming to natural ends because the (rather long) stories they arereprinting are over, right? In other words, those two series werealways limited series from the start (even though they weren'tadvertised that way) because the material they are reprinting isfinite...>>
 
Oh, there's plenty of HS and WOM material out there that we haven't seen.  Check INDUCKS for a complete rundown.  The WIZARDS arc that will be coming to an end soon is only the first of at least half-a-dozen arcs of considerable length.  There's less ULTRAHEROES material, but it does exist.
 
Chris
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