Nuno J. Silva to Alexander Mariager Nielsen:
> He wrote at least one post in English, although the forum seems to be
> Italian:
>
> http://www.papersera.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1069256543/3394#3394
Rosa is only reading and writing English. His postings are translated (as
well as the replies) by a bunch of volunteers.
Some of these volunteers can be seen on photos 1 and 3 on this page:
http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/j2011/p11-01.html
:-)
--Harry.
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Rosa
Message 16 -
2012-01-23 at 01:35:31
Alexander Mariager Nielsen
DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 7
Message 17 -
2012-01-23 at 13:44:04
Harry wrote:
Rosa is only reading and writing English. His postings are translated (as
well as the replies) by a bunch of volunteers.
Will he then awnser in English if you write in English?
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From: myaklin at g4.net
CC: dcml at nafsk.se
To: cato at rock.com
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:30:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Working With Disney Characters
Inline below:
> Greetings!
>
> I am happy to see that we have some discussion here again!
> [ob_smileys11.gif]
>
> Matt asked:
>
> If someone wanted to create new stories/art.. just how many hoops do
> they have to jump through to even create a new comic containing a
> Scrooge story?
> I can tell you my brother's opinion, who has an entertainment company in Cal
> ifornia. It is a huge hassle
> to deal with Disney! Obviously many companies do, but Disney does not make
> it easy: layers of
> bureaucracy, pickiness, and of course a large percentage or fee for licensin
> g the character.
> His company looked into the possibility of online comic books, after Gladsto
> ne stopped publishing.
> But the profitability of such a venture was not obvious.
> And if you have not contracted with them for using a character,
> they will eventually find you and demand that you cease and desist...
> or pay up! [ob_smileys14.gif] Of course, that is their right: they own th
> e characters!
Does a hobbyist (artist/story teller) have any rights to create something
that is not for sale but just to share?
For example, someone writes a nice 10 page Scrooge Story.
They then send the story to an artist who draws something up.
Using a cheap copy method they then create 50-100 comics and send
them out to others who wish to have one and those others just pay
for the shipping costs (say 5 bucks) to get it to them.
Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
I am just thinking out loud.
matt at G4.net
> Gary Leach wrote:
> Is it reasonable to hope such career tracks still exist in other
> climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured the
> likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats
> who remain under-acknowleged over here?
> It is nice to hear from Gary Leach! Creativity knows no borders,
> so a future Rosa/Barks could arise any place where Uncle Scrooge and
> the Duckburg Universe are known!
>
> Best Wishes!
> Leo Schulte
>
>
> --
>
> rock.com
>
>
>
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From: methanal at gmail.com
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:36:18 +0000
Subject: Re: Working With Disney Characters
On sun 22.jan 2012 18:30, Matt Yaklin wrote:
> Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
Considering that Disney is a prominent part of the cheerleading crowd
for SOPA/PIPA and doesn't mind introducing a censorship regime to
protect their bottom line ... yes. Unfortunately.
With greetings,
Herbert Snorrason
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From: hfl at inducks.org
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:35:31 +0100
Subject: Rosa
Nuno J. Silva to Alexander Mariager Nielsen:
> He wrote at least one post in English, although the forum seems to be
> Italian:
>
> http://www.papersera.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1069256543/3394#3394
Rosa is only reading and writing English. His postings are translated (as
well as the replies) by a bunch of volunteers.
Some of these volunteers can be seen on photos 1 and 3 on this page:
http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/j2011/p11-01.html
:-)
--Harry.
Rosa is only reading and writing English. His postings are translated (as
well as the replies) by a bunch of volunteers.
Will he then awnser in English if you write in English?
From: dcml-request at nafsk.se
Subject: DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 7
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:13:03 +0100
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From: myaklin at g4.net
CC: dcml at nafsk.se
To: cato at rock.com
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:30:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Working With Disney Characters
Inline below:
> Greetings!
>
> I am happy to see that we have some discussion here again!
> [ob_smileys11.gif]
>
> Matt asked:
>
> If someone wanted to create new stories/art.. just how many hoops do
> they have to jump through to even create a new comic containing a
> Scrooge story?
> I can tell you my brother's opinion, who has an entertainment company in Cal
> ifornia. It is a huge hassle
> to deal with Disney! Obviously many companies do, but Disney does not make
> it easy: layers of
> bureaucracy, pickiness, and of course a large percentage or fee for licensin
> g the character.
> His company looked into the possibility of online comic books, after Gladsto
> ne stopped publishing.
> But the profitability of such a venture was not obvious.
> And if you have not contracted with them for using a character,
> they will eventually find you and demand that you cease and desist...
> or pay up! [ob_smileys14.gif] Of course, that is their right: they own th
> e characters!
Does a hobbyist (artist/story teller) have any rights to create something
that is not for sale but just to share?
For example, someone writes a nice 10 page Scrooge Story.
They then send the story to an artist who draws something up.
Using a cheap copy method they then create 50-100 comics and send
them out to others who wish to have one and those others just pay
for the shipping costs (say 5 bucks) to get it to them.
Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
I am just thinking out loud.
matt at G4.net
> Gary Leach wrote:
> Is it reasonable to hope such career tracks still exist in other
> climes than North America, in places (and markets) that nurtured the
> likes of Scarpa, Rota, Branca, Vicar, to name just a few of the greats
> who remain under-acknowleged over here?
> It is nice to hear from Gary Leach! Creativity knows no borders,
> so a future Rosa/Barks could arise any place where Uncle Scrooge and
> the Duckburg Universe are known!
>
> Best Wishes!
> Leo Schulte
>
>
> --
>
> rock.com
>
>
>
--Videresendt meddelelse med vedh?ftet fil--
From: methanal at gmail.com
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:36:18 +0000
Subject: Re: Working With Disney Characters
On sun 22.jan 2012 18:30, Matt Yaklin wrote:
> Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
Considering that Disney is a prominent part of the cheerleading crowd
for SOPA/PIPA and doesn't mind introducing a censorship regime to
protect their bottom line ... yes. Unfortunately.
With greetings,
Herbert Snorrason
--Videresendt meddelelse med vedh?ftet fil--
From: hfl at inducks.org
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:35:31 +0100
Subject: Rosa
Nuno J. Silva to Alexander Mariager Nielsen:
> He wrote at least one post in English, although the forum seems to be
> Italian:
>
> http://www.papersera.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1069256543/3394#3394
Rosa is only reading and writing English. His postings are translated (as
well as the replies) by a bunch of volunteers.
Some of these volunteers can be seen on photos 1 and 3 on this page:
http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/j2011/p11-01.html
:-)
--Harry.
Gary Leach
Hobby Use
Message 18 -
2012-01-23 at 18:44:04
One can take it as a given that any and all properties trademarked and/or copyrighted by Disney are off limits to all unauthorized use, whether such use is intended for profit or not. Even Fair Use is something granted only the very narrowest latitude, and I very much doubt a "hobby" project such as described below would fall within that latitude.
Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal, to take that position on intellectual property, but they, along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much the way of the business world in these times.
Gary
On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:13 AM, dcml-request at nafsk.se wrote:
> Does a hobbyist (artist/story teller) have any rights to create something
> that is not for sale but just to share?
>
> For example, someone writes a nice 10 page Scrooge Story.
> They then send the story to an artist who draws something up.
> Using a cheap copy method they then create 50-100 comics and send
> them out to others who wish to have one and those others just pay
> for the shipping costs (say 5 bucks) to get it to them.
>
> Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
>
>
> I am just thinking out loud.
Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal, to take that position on intellectual property, but they, along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much the way of the business world in these times.
Gary
On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:13 AM, dcml-request at nafsk.se wrote:
> Does a hobbyist (artist/story teller) have any rights to create something
> that is not for sale but just to share?
>
> For example, someone writes a nice 10 page Scrooge Story.
> They then send the story to an artist who draws something up.
> Using a cheap copy method they then create 50-100 comics and send
> them out to others who wish to have one and those others just pay
> for the shipping costs (say 5 bucks) to get it to them.
>
> Would something like that run afowl of Disney?
>
>
> I am just thinking out loud.
D.M. Van Eijmeren
Hobby Use
Message 19 -
2012-01-24 at 13:44:23
GARY LEACH, 23-01-2012:
> Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal,
> to take that position on intellectual property, but they,
> along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for
> "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much
> the way of the business world in these times.
I think that in practice, Disney is rather tolerant towards hobby use. The
internet is full of Disney images copied or created by amateurs. And I'm
grateful that Disney apparently doesn't mind about that. (Maybe they see it
as free advertising?)
Only when people make huge, high resolution galleries, Disney seems to
bother. And which company wouldn't.
Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being strong
on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really take
action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
again, this is hearsay.
Best wishes,
Dani?l
> Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal,
> to take that position on intellectual property, but they,
> along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for
> "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much
> the way of the business world in these times.
I think that in practice, Disney is rather tolerant towards hobby use. The
internet is full of Disney images copied or created by amateurs. And I'm
grateful that Disney apparently doesn't mind about that. (Maybe they see it
as free advertising?)
Only when people make huge, high resolution galleries, Disney seems to
bother. And which company wouldn't.
Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being strong
on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really take
action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
again, this is hearsay.
Best wishes,
Dani?l
Stefan Persson
Hobby Use
Message 20 -
2012-01-25 at 13:10:26
"D.M. van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl> skrev:
>Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being
>strong
>on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really
>take
>action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
>again, this is hearsay.
A good example is the Swedish fan club Generation Tintin which was forced to change its name into Generation T after pressure from Herg?/Moulinsart a few years ago.
Stefan
>Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being
>strong
>on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really
>take
>action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
>again, this is hearsay.
A good example is the Swedish fan club Generation Tintin which was forced to change its name into Generation T after pressure from Herg?/Moulinsart a few years ago.
Stefan
Alexander Mariager Nielsen
DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 9
Message 21 -
2012-01-25 at 14:49:29
Daniel, you must be right about Disney not being the copyright holders of the generation. They have not yet seen the Donaldist organizasions, like Danish Donaldist Society...
I hope they never do... It is horrible to think about, what would happen to Donaldists around Denmark, and the whole world...
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From: dve at kabelfoon.nl
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:44:23 +0100
Subject: Re: Hobby Use
GARY LEACH, 23-01-2012:
> Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal,
> to take that position on intellectual property, but they,
> along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for
> "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much
> the way of the business world in these times.
I think that in practice, Disney is rather tolerant towards hobby use. The
internet is full of Disney images copied or created by amateurs. And I'm
grateful that Disney apparently doesn't mind about that. (Maybe they see it
as free advertising?)
Only when people make huge, high resolution galleries, Disney seems to
bother. And which company wouldn't.
Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being strong
on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really take
action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
again, this is hearsay.
Best wishes,
Dani?l
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From: spe at inducks.org
To: dve at kabelfoon.nl; dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:10:26 +0100
Subject: Re: Hobby Use
"D.M. van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl> skrev:
>Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being
>strong
>on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really
>take
>action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
>again, this is hearsay.
A good example is the Swedish fan club Generation Tintin which was forced to change its name into Generation T after pressure from Herg?/Moulinsart a few years ago.
Stefan
I hope they never do... It is horrible to think about, what would happen to Donaldists around Denmark, and the whole world...
From: dcml-request at nafsk.se
Subject: DCML Digest, Vol 104, Issue 9
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:13:01 +0100
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From: dve at kabelfoon.nl
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:44:23 +0100
Subject: Re: Hobby Use
GARY LEACH, 23-01-2012:
> Disney is hardly the only entity, corporate or personal,
> to take that position on intellectual property, but they,
> along with Apple, seem to be the standard bearers for
> "When In Doubt, Use Your Legal Clout". It's pretty much
> the way of the business world in these times.
I think that in practice, Disney is rather tolerant towards hobby use. The
internet is full of Disney images copied or created by amateurs. And I'm
grateful that Disney apparently doesn't mind about that. (Maybe they see it
as free advertising?)
Only when people make huge, high resolution galleries, Disney seems to
bother. And which company wouldn't.
Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being strong
on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really take
action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
again, this is hearsay.
Best wishes,
Dani?l
--Videresendt meddelelse med vedh?ftet fil--
From: spe at inducks.org
To: dve at kabelfoon.nl; dcml at nafsk.se
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:10:26 +0100
Subject: Re: Hobby Use
"D.M. van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl> skrev:
>Could Herg? (Tintin) be a better example of copyright holders being
>strong
>on people using their images? I have from hearsay, that they really
>take
>action when people use even a small portion of their property. But then
>again, this is hearsay.
A good example is the Swedish fan club Generation Tintin which was forced to change its name into Generation T after pressure from Herg?/Moulinsart a few years ago.
Stefan
D.M. Van Eijmeren
Hobby Use
Message 22 -
2012-01-26 at 14:11:52
ALEXANDER NIELSEN, 25-01-2012:
> Daniel, you must be right about Disney not being the copyright
> holders of the generation. They have not yet seen the Donaldist
> organizasions, like Danish Donaldist Society...
>
> I hope they never do... It is horrible to think about, what
> would happen to Donaldists around Denmark, and the whole
> world...
I'm sure that Disney has seen such sites. Disney has internet and can find
those sites just as easily as anyone else.
Disney seems to have a policy of "don't ask, don't tell". And this means
we're already talking too much.
Officially, Disney can never approve those sites. That would harm their
copyrights, which a copyright holder has to defend in order to keep those
rights. And so I think they act as if they look the other way, as if
fansites don't exist. It's all they can do, to let us have our fun.
I don't understand why Disney is pictured as a company to be afraid of,
concerning fansites. In comparison with the Tintin heirs, they are obviously
very tolerant in letting fans do what they want.
I think there is enough reason for Disney fans to be thankful towards
Disney, rather than being afraid.
Best wishes,
Dani?l
> Daniel, you must be right about Disney not being the copyright
> holders of the generation. They have not yet seen the Donaldist
> organizasions, like Danish Donaldist Society...
>
> I hope they never do... It is horrible to think about, what
> would happen to Donaldists around Denmark, and the whole
> world...
I'm sure that Disney has seen such sites. Disney has internet and can find
those sites just as easily as anyone else.
Disney seems to have a policy of "don't ask, don't tell". And this means
we're already talking too much.
Officially, Disney can never approve those sites. That would harm their
copyrights, which a copyright holder has to defend in order to keep those
rights. And so I think they act as if they look the other way, as if
fansites don't exist. It's all they can do, to let us have our fun.
I don't understand why Disney is pictured as a company to be afraid of,
concerning fansites. In comparison with the Tintin heirs, they are obviously
very tolerant in letting fans do what they want.
I think there is enough reason for Disney fans to be thankful towards
Disney, rather than being afraid.
Best wishes,
Dani?l
Ola Martinsson
Would someone be willing to bid for this item in my place on ebay ?
Message 23 -
2012-01-27 at 11:05:12
Hi !
I have been looking for Pinocchio Kite Fun Book now for many years. I have seen it on ebay three times and on all occasions i couldn't bid for it because I'm from Sweden.
Pinocchio Kite Fun Book is up on ebay again and again I can't bid for it because I'm from Sweden. Furthermore the seller can't be contacted so it doesn't help if I could send it to a middle man in the US. So my only option to get this would be if someone would be willing to bid for it in my place and then send it on to me. This person can of course charge any fee that he/she thinks is reasonable for this favour. If someone is willing to help then please mail me privately at ola.martinsson at ericsson.com and ola-p.martinsson at telia.com, Thanks.
Ola in snowy cloudy Stockholm, -1 C
I have been looking for Pinocchio Kite Fun Book now for many years. I have seen it on ebay three times and on all occasions i couldn't bid for it because I'm from Sweden.
Pinocchio Kite Fun Book is up on ebay again and again I can't bid for it because I'm from Sweden. Furthermore the seller can't be contacted so it doesn't help if I could send it to a middle man in the US. So my only option to get this would be if someone would be willing to bid for it in my place and then send it on to me. This person can of course charge any fee that he/she thinks is reasonable for this favour. If someone is willing to help then please mail me privately at ola.martinsson at ericsson.com and ola-p.martinsson at telia.com, Thanks.
Ola in snowy cloudy Stockholm, -1 C
Cato Elder
Error In Rosa's "Island At The Edge Of Time"
Message 24 -
2012-01-28 at 15:17:38
Greetings to Everyone!
I was revisiting Don Rosa's Island at the Edge of Time and on page 4
Uncle Scrooge, Donald, and the nephews are in a plane on their way to
Africa.? The narration mentions "the 4 ducks..."
But there are 5 ducks!? Perhaps Rosa was thinking of Donald and the
nephews only, separate from Scrooge.
Or is Uncle Scrooge somehow not anatine?? [IMAGE]
Great story, like all of Rosa's efforts!? I also see that in August 2012,
we will have the 20th Anniversary of the beginning of The Life and Times
of Scrooge McDuck.
I still remember quite clearly buying multiple copies of that series for
my children, even though they were teenagers!
Best Wishes!
L. Schulte
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I was revisiting Don Rosa's Island at the Edge of Time and on page 4
Uncle Scrooge, Donald, and the nephews are in a plane on their way to
Africa.? The narration mentions "the 4 ducks..."
But there are 5 ducks!? Perhaps Rosa was thinking of Donald and the
nephews only, separate from Scrooge.
Or is Uncle Scrooge somehow not anatine?? [IMAGE]
Great story, like all of Rosa's efforts!? I also see that in August 2012,
we will have the 20th Anniversary of the beginning of The Life and Times
of Scrooge McDuck.
I still remember quite clearly buying multiple copies of that series for
my children, even though they were teenagers!
Best Wishes!
L. Schulte
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