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Admitted, there's a certain similarity with Donald Duck. I think, however, that if there was medial transmission about the real Donald Duck already in 1934, used for a fictional cartoon with the name "The Wise Little Hen", the information was received only in a corrupted and perverted way.

The truthful coverage about Duckburg didn't start before 1942/43 when Carl Barks began producing his reports on the life and times of Donald Duck.

http://www.don-mcduck.de/bilder/cover/cx43.jpg

Actually I am not a "Barks only" fanaticist whose hand would rot off if he even touched anything different than Barks. I enjoy good stories from goos authors like Rosa, Vicar, Jippes, the Italians and others--and, yes, maybe one would see me even chuckling when watching a "Donald Duck" cartoon on TV.
However, I am able to differ between fiction, between "comics" and "cartoons", and--reality. And it's only Barks who tells about real things. :)

Newspaper report? Bah! I read Barks like Tacitus! :D

Carl Barks himself worked on some of those "fictional" cartoons. On "The Wise Little Hen" no less...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Barks#Disney

Quote from user: Charlie BrownI wonder what Carl Barks himself thought about this. Is there any interview with an answer?
In the interview Gottfried Helnwein made with him there is something like a "statement" on that all ...

Quote:Barks: In Germany they are still printing a lot of these duck stories, aren't they?

Helnwein: Yes, I think Germany is the greatest market for Donald Duck comics worldwide. There you'll also find the most fantastic fans. Have you ever heard of the Donaldists?

Barks: The Donaldists?

Helnwein: It is an association. Or better, an order, which sees itself as the keeper of the grail of the eternal and pure spirit of Donald. They believe that Duckburg actually exists.

Barks: Oh, I remember. I believe I did get one of their magazines.
(Source)

Probably Barks thought that Donald Duck was just a character in a "comic". Well, God may believe that the world is His "fictional" creation, and a very "comical" one indeed ... :D

Quote from user: KneonCarl Barks himself worked on some of those "fictional" cartoons.
Yes, indeed. Those fragments of reality within "Donald Duck" cartoon stories must be carefully investigated and isolated from their fictional context with critical source analysis.

Actually there are also fictional elements within the seemingly untainted Barks material of his Duckburg reports in comic book form. Think for example of the apocryphal Grandma Duck and Daisy Duck's Diary material where Barks only illustrated scripts of other authors. I have my doubts that "Dumbo" really exists ...

Quote from user: KneonQuote from user: CoolwaterI have my doubts that "Dumbo" really exists ...
Dumbo's... not real?! :o
I hope he's not. "The Flying Farm Hand" is really the silliest "Barks story" of all. Everything else what is reported in those Grandma Duck and Daisy Duck stories can be easily integrated into the undoubtly authentic Duckburg, but "Dumbo" is really a source of irritation, an enigma. I wish Barks had never drawn "The Flying Farm Hand". I wonder what he thought when he first read the script ... Well, we cannot change history anymore. Barks took his pencil and drew that elephant. And Donaldism has to deal with the question of the actual existence of "Dumbo" with all its scientifical, philosophical and ontological aspects. Oh, the humanity!

Quote from user: CoolwaterQuote from user: KneonQuote from user: CoolwaterI have my doubts that "Dumbo" really exists ...
Dumbo's... not real?! :o
I hope he's not. "The Flying Farm Hand" is really the silliest "Barks story" of all. Everything else what is reported in those Grandma Duck and Daisy Duck stories can be easily integrated into the undoubtly authentic Duckburg, but "Dumbo" is really a source of irritation, an enigma. I wish Barks had never drawn "The Flying Farm Hand". I wonder what he thought when he first read the script ... Well, we cannot change history anymore. Barks took his pencil and drew that elephant. And Donaldism has to deal with the question of the actual existence of "Dumbo" with all its scientifical, philosophical and ontological aspects. Oh, the humanity!
I've never read that story, but the idea of Donald and Dumbo sharing the same page is just so utterly bizarre I may have to track it down...