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Topic: Don Rosa speedskating story

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Arthur
I've posted scans of a rare two-page Rosa story on my site. The story was written by Nils Lid Hjort and drawn by Don Rosa for a Dutch speedskating magazine back in 1998:
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/blog/2009/03/rare-don-rosa-speedskating-story/
The story features Donald Duck and Gladstone Gander competing in a speedskating race. The winner gets to escort chairlady Daisy to the banquet.
Brigitta Cat
Oh my goodness, thank you for scanning and posting this!
Furienna
That was really weird indeed! I mean, "Burg of Ducks"? I would rather leave the city name out altogether than call it something that lame! And yes, you also gotta love the obscured Gyro (who's "seen" in three panels, by the way, not two).
Charlie Brown
A German website says:
"This is no official Disney story. So no Disney characters could be used. Therefore the characters have no names and you never see the full body (the rest of the body could be different to the Disney characters ;)). It's just a story with celebrity lookalikes or doubles."
ASSpirine
Quote from user: Charlie BrownA German website says:

"This is no official Disney story. So no Disney characters could be used. Therefore the characters have no names and you never see the full body (the rest of the body could be different to the Disney characters ;)). It's just a story with celebrity lookalikes or doubles."

Yup

Our Uncle
That Lucky cousin of mine
The chairlady

It's still nice to see
What ashame that Don Rosa has such bad eyes... If not, he would keep on drawing I think :(
Roger North
Don Rosa wrote that story? Too Bad it's not official material.
Arthur
Quote from user: Roger NorthDon Rosa wrote that story? Too Bad it's not official material.
No, Nils Lid Hjort wrote the story.
WB
Quote from user: Lars JensenDon Rosa has stated that none of these are Disney characters, but rather characters he himself has invented.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. XD

Quote:Nils Lid Hjort has asked not to be credited as co-writer of that story.
I'd ask not to be credited too if it meant getting sued. lol

Nice story all the same. Too bad it didn't "feature Donald" - and yet, no problems in feature Gyro's Helper in full - though I suppose that could be just "any old walking, mannequin doll thing with shoes". Hahahaha! How hilariously asinine. XD
Cacou
I assume not mentioning Donald (nor any other character) has practical advantages. Maybe that way you can not be liable for trademark infringement? I think Disney is able to sue people for using "Mickey Mouse" or "Donald Duck" in a printed publication (or advertising something with these names).
Regarding the (c) aspect, I'm not sure what exact charges would Disney request if they were to sue (and I hope they don't). Maybe this comic could be considered a "derivative work" and hence be infringing on Disney's rights.
Nils Lid Hjort
I've not posted here before and am not quite sure how it works regarding the formatting etc., after clicking "post reply". Anyway, Lars Jensen wrote:
"Nils Lid Hjort has asked not to be credited as co-writer of that story."
which renders me curious: from where did you get that information?
Nils Lid Hjort
Roger North
Quote from user: arthurQuote from user: Roger NorthDon Rosa wrote that story? Too Bad it's not official material.
No, Nils Lid Hjort wrote the story.

Maybe so but it looks like Don Rosa drew the story.
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: Nils Lid HjortI've not posted here before and am not quite sure how it works regarding the formatting etc., after clicking "post reply". Anyway, Lars Jensen wrote:

"Nils Lid Hjort has asked not to be credited as co-writer of that story."

which renders me curious: from where did you get that information?

Nils Lid Hjort

I'm sure I read it somewhere on the DCML. But maybe I misremember -- I can't find it anywhere. I'll go back and delete my post. Sorry.

EDIT: Ah, now I know why. You mentioned that speed-skating story and Don Rosa's involvement in a post on the DCML (http://nafsk.se/pipermail/dcml/2005-October/023657.html), but didn't mention yourself. I must've gotten the impression you preferred to stay anonymous as writer of it. (Not unusual -- there are a few things out there *I* have been involved in without my name being mentioned anywhere.) But obviously I was wrong. Sorry again.

Lars
Nils Lid Hjort
I need briefly to comment further on this. As can be seen above, Lars Jensen first provided the for me utterly surprising statement
"Nils Lid Hjort has asked not to be credited as co-writer of that story."
causing me to ask
[...] which renders me curious: from where did you get that information?
Let me make it very clear that I have never "asked not to be credited as co-writer of that story" or uttered statements that could with any reasonable stretch of imagination be interpreted in such a direction. On the contrary, I am rather proud of this achievement and to have it listed on my CV. I have also humoured myself and some of my readers by referencing "Rosa, D. and Hjort, N.L. (1998)" in a couple of my scientific publications (where I've been using data from speedskating competitions to change the Olympic Games and to illustrate mathematical statistics methods I've been developing). The achievement in question is perhaps small on the world scale but comfortably big as measured by my personal and occasionally idiosyncratic parameters (to contra-paraphrase Mr Armstrong) -- as I have always admired said D. Rosa, as an artist and as a friend.
Of course I am rather impressed by Lars Jensen's ability to produce from his memory a single line from something I posted on the DCML in October 2005, but, again, if I somehow would have felt a iota of a morsel of embarrassment over that story I would simply not have mentioned it. Those sufficiently interested may also browse through the DCML archive of March 2004 [http://nafsk.se/pipermail/dcml/2004-March.txt] and read my answer dated 22 March to a question about the story raised by Hans Kiesl 16 March.
So in this particular case, Lars Jensen, the answer does not appear to be the customary "no".
Lars Jensen
In the world of comics, there is a lot of collaboration, and in many of these cases not all contributors are named. Sometimes this is because the contributor in question for whatever reason doesn't *want* to be named. It could be due to modesty, for instance. From your DCML post I (mistakenly) concluded you preferred your work on this story not to be mentioned, so I thought I was doing you a favour in this thread. Obviously, I was wrong, and from now on, I'll know better than to "hide" your name.
Hope you had a nice Easter.
Hedberg
That's nice. Now we can rest assure that everybody is satisfied.

Nils made an excellent story and Don made these drawings in a fairly Disney-like mode, though hiding obvious persons as "hints" for us commons...
Great job !

:)

...and Lars is Honorable...
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