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Topic: Where is everyone?-Barks Quiz

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Olivier
Great!
So you're with Gemstone, Ramapith, right? (Was I the only one not to know?)

I would say none are truly objectionable. This does not mean that some stereotypical characterizations may not be a problem, but they were surely not used with genuine racist intent, and have to be taken in context (an easy way to represent some people, playing on these character types, ...) Countless literary works could be banned forever on such grounds, actually.

I hope we will soon have a Gottfredson Library-- with Leonard Maltin-like notes for those touchy characterizations.
Robb_K
Quote from user: OlivierGreat!
So you're with Gemstone, Ramapith, right? (Was I the only one not to know?)

I would say none are truly objectionable. This does not mean that some stereotypical characterizations may not be a problem, but they were surely not used with genuine racist intent, and have to be taken in context (an easy way to represent some people, playing on these character types, ...) Countless literary works could be banned forever on such grounds, actually.

I hope we will soon have a Gottfredson Library-- with Leonard Maltin-like notes for those touchy characterizations.

There's NO reason why ANY of Gottfredson's stories should remain unreprinted! Gemstone's market is almost all nostalgic adults, or children who were turned on to Disney comics by their nostalic parents. If a preface regarding the state-of-US society during the 1930s an 1940s is made in a 1-page narrative before the story, it should be acceptable.
Ramapith
Hey Olivier,
Oops! I'm David Gerstein, Gemstone's archival editor.
Disney understands the collectors' market a little better now than in the past, so our present contacts there a bit more lenient about the idea of dated Gottfredson material reappearing in a historical context.
That said, I'm not sure whether we'd be able to produce a full-fledged Gottfredson library in the manner you and others are describing. I'd personally love to see such a project; but only time will tell.
(By the way, everyone??Lars is right; neither we, nor any Disney affiliate, can simply produce and market a book aimed at the international market as a whole. Most publishers' licenses cover only specific swaths of territory; sure, importers and comic specialty stores can bring small amounts of one country's product into another country, but Gemstone??for example??would never be allowed to sell large quantities of its books in a British general interest bookstore without making deals with Disney and/or the local British Disney comics licensee.)
Olivier
Hi David! Nice to see you here too.

Quote from user: ramapithHey Olivier,
Disney understands the collectors' market a little better now than in the past, so our present contacts there a bit more lenient about the idea of dated Gottfredson material reappearing in a historical context.
That said, I'm not sure whether we'd be able to produce a full-fledged Gottfredson library in the manner you and others are describing. I'd personally love to see such a project; but only time will tell.

I guess the powers-that-be at Disney are observing the sell of the comics, especially those carrying Gottfredson stories, before considering the granting of such a licence.
Besides, as Robb pointed out, a great number of the potential buyers are adults aware of the historical context of the strips.

Gemstone has managed to get the comics licence back, to put out several great books, including the gorgeous Mickey and the Gang. I hope the increasing momentum and good sales will convince the Disney Company.
Ramapith
Quote from user: Robb_KGemstone's market is almost all nostalgic adults, or children who were turned on to Disney comics by their nostalgic parents.
Rob, a good 30% of our typical press run is sold not to collectors, but to general audiences via standard and online bookstores. With our most successful books, the percentage is higher. No intent to sound snooty, but please try not to make presumptions about our audience (or our intended audience, which may be something else again!).Quote:If a preface regarding the state-of-US society during the 1930s an 1940s is made in a 1-page narrative before the story, it should be acceptable.
You or I can state what we think ought to be acceptable, but that doesn't necessarily mean Disney has to agree. As owner of the property, they do have the right to call the shots. "Some ducks have all the luck!"
Morequack
ramapith, any plans for Gemstone to re-release the premiere issue of US #319 as a back-issue? Also, what about "The Sign of the Triple Distelfink" in an upcoming issue? And the release of "The Prisoner of White Agony Creek" in its own US issue? Sorry to assault you with a barrage of Qs but Rosa fans , at least this one, want to know. :D
Robb_K
Quote from user: ramapithRob, a good 30% of our typical press run is sold not to collectors, but to general audiences via standard and online bookstores. With our most successful books, the percentage is higher. No intent to sound snooty, but please try not to make presumptions about our audience (or our intended audience, which may be something else again!).
I doubt that more than 5% to 8% of Gemstones sales come from children who DON'T have their interest in Disney Comics from their parents, who turned them on to them. Further, I believe that those very children are from the well-educated class, and would generally understand the historical context of the times when Gottfredson drew his stories. On the whole, I believe that they wouldn't need to be "protected" from seeing those racial stereotypes. That would be especially true, given the one-page context narrative preface for those stories. I don't think Disney's image would be hurt by such publication.
Steamboat Willie
Quote from user: ramapithOops! I'm David Gerstein, Gemstone's archival editor.
Oh, hello mr Gerstein. I tried to write an article about you in the swedish on-line comic encyclopedia. I cannot say that I succeded. It's a lousy article.

Quote from user: ramapithDisney understands the collectors' market a little better now than in the past, so our present contacts there a bit more lenient about the idea of dated Gottfredson material reappearing in a historical context.
That said, I'm not sure whether we'd be able to produce a full-fledged Gottfredson library in the manner you and others are describing. I'd personally love to see such a project; but only time will tell.

Well, I know a big distributor of japanese animated films. They had a title that fans wanted and they let people sign up for a copy of the collected title. They didn't have to start the work on a printrun until they already had the order books filled. Do you think this could this be a way to go towards Gemstone/Egmont/etc. to get a collection of.. say.. Gottfredson, published?
MrCleveland
The one where Donald Duck was a firefighter was censored because one panel had Donald Duck busts out the door with only his fire helmet on.
It mentions that here. http://www.moorsmagazine.com/cartoon/censuur.html It's in Dutch so...
LadyQuackly
I've been sidetracked by a lot of stuff, but I've been here in spurts. RL gets in the way an awful lot, and so do other fandom "things"...

Quote from user: HarukuroMaybe no one knows what to talk about.:/ Shame...there are a lot of topics that people could discus. I think I'll post up some new topics maybe then people will come back. :)
There was a new topic that I've meant to bring up for some weeks, but never could find the right time (or the right mood) to run with it. But it's coming...stay tuned. ;)
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