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Morequack
Hoping someone could identify a particular Duck story. It's one that I read as a kid in the Greek comic MIKY MAOYS (Mickey Mouse) long ago. It appears to be of Italian origin from perhaps the late 50s to the mid 60s. It's a lengthy space adventure in which Scrooge employs Donald to fly a rocket ship to space?something to do with securing his treasure somewhere on another planet. Donald gets space-shipwrecked on a moon and is rescued from a giant caterpillar-like creature by a friendly alien who eats rocks and minerals. He takes Donald to his planet where the hapless duck is put into a cage in zoo with other odd-looking "space creatures." He manages to escape and proceeds to be captured by a militaristic alien race that mistake him for an engineering genius and thus force him to engineer an army of robot soldiers?which Donald manages to pull off, designing and producing a prototype in his own image, no less, that becomes mass-produced and loaded onto a fleet of spaceships and launched for conquest of a neighboring alien race.
It's a truly fascinating story with outstanding artwork, and is one of my childhood favorites! I have the old beat-up copy from 1968, reprinted from Italian to Greek, and when I get a chance I'd like to scan a page or two to show here.
I wanted to know if anyone recognizes the story and could identify the artist(s) and the story title. The Greek title given is something like: "Prisoner in Space."
It would be a dream come true if Gemstone could get hold of it and reprint it in Uncle Scrooge!
Roger North
That story doesn't sound familiar but it would be interesting to see although it does sound a little bit similar to the Donald Duck story The Other Gyro Gearloose in Uncle Scrooge #368.
Robb_K
I looked up the story in COA, under (prisoner,space, space aliens, spacemen, robots, with Donald and Uncle Scrooge as main characters,-all of the entries individual with each character, and then looked at every story in each resultant list, and didn't find a story that fits that description. I don't know if it is possible that that particular Italian story hasn't been indexed yet. But, it must be a problem in the crossrefrencing of data on that story. It should be possible to find from your description.
Ole Damgaard
From your plot description it sounds somewhat like I TL 230-BP, Paperino e il razzo interplanetario .
That isn't indexed in any greek publication, though, but that doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't published there. Or maybe it is one of the later stories with Rebo and Donald.
Roger North
I never heard of Rebo. Who is Rebo?
Lars Jensen
Quote from user: Roger NorthI never heard of Rebo. Who is Rebo?
See http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Rebo .
Morequack
Quote from user: ole damgaardFrom your plot description it sounds somewhat like I TL 230-BP, Paperino e il razzo interplanetario .

That isn't indexed in any greek publication, though, but that doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't published there. Or maybe it is one of the later stories with Rebo and Donald.

YES THAT'S EXACTLY THE STORY, THANKS!!! Rebo is in it?I had never heard of him before! The story was DEFINITELY published in Greece in 1968, as I have a copy. It is a whopping 72 pages long in Greek (although the index lists it as 75 pages in the Italian pub. (3 rows/page format)!

Luciano Bottaro is credited with the plot, script and art?fantastic work!

http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=I+TL++230-BP&search=Paperino%20e%20il%20razzo%20interplanetario

Now if only Gemstone would reprint it!!!

Ramapith?
Morequack
These long, epic stories are the ones that I've always craved most of all. This is what I learned to love about Disney comics. As a kid I used to curl up in a quiet place and for a long time escape inside a story like this. I've never been much interested in the shorter gag stories of less than 14 pages or so. A lot of the earlier Italian works from the 50s and 60s were in this category of exciting storytelling of the Ducks in far-away places, in high adventure, danger and intrigue. They were imaginative and ambitious. And they were good! I use the past tense because I don't see them very often if ever anymore, at least in the US comics that are available to me.
Ole Damgaard
Quote from user: MorequackThese long, epic stories are the ones that I've always craved most of all. This is what I learned to love about Disney comics. As a kid I used to curl up in a quiet place and for a long time escape inside a story like this.
I know what you mean. I like that type of story too... these italian adventures was my fantasy escape too when I was younger. (and still is, once in a while) :-)

Luckily we've had a lot of them published here, as Egmont used to reprint lots of italian pocket book stories earlier on, and still do, in a smaller scale.
Roger North
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Roger NorthI never heard of Rebo. Who is Rebo?
See http://coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Rebo .

Thanks Lars.
Morequack
Quote from user: ole damgaardQuote from user: MorequackThese long, epic stories are the ones that I've always craved most of all. This is what I learned to love about Disney comics. As a kid I used to curl up in a quiet place and for a long time escape inside a story like this.
I know what you mean. I like that type of story too... these italian adventures was my fantasy escape too when I was younger. (and still is, once in a while) :-)

Luckily we've had a lot of them published here, as Egmont used to reprint lots of italian pocket book stories earlier on, and still do, in a smaller scale.

Unfortunately, here in the U.S. we're known for our short attention spans, so we've become accustomed to instant gratification via fast food and a fast internet?and so God forbid we should have to endure a lengthy story! Thus our modern American artists churn out a steady drumbeat of mostly minimal stories and silly gags. And we applaud and eat it up 'cause we've got nothing better to sink our teeth into. =(
Robb_K
Quote from user: MorequackQuote from user: ole damgaardQuote from user: MorequackThese long, epic stories are the ones that I've always craved most of all. This is what I learned to love about Disney comics. As a kid I used to curl up in a quiet place and for a long time escape inside a story like this.
I know what you mean. I like that type of story too... these italian adventures was my fantasy escape too when I was younger. (and still is, once in a while) :-)

Luckily we've had a lot of them published here, as Egmont used to reprint lots of italian pocket book stories earlier on, and still do, in a smaller scale.

Unfortunately, here in the U.S. we're known for our short attention spans, so we've become accustomed to instant gratification via fast food and a fast internet?and so God forbid we should have to endure a lengthy story! Thus our modern American artists churn out a steady drumbeat of mostly minimal stories and silly gags. And we applaud and eat it up 'cause we've got nothing better to sink our teeth into. =(

Don Rosa, William Van Horn and Pat Block have all written and drawn long stories fairly recently. Pat and Carol McGreal have written some long stories.

But, yes, I love long adventure stories, and would like to see a lot more long stories in Gemstone's comic books (and also the current Dutch comic books).

They might start with all the '50s and '60s Scarpa stories, longer ones by Da Vita, and long Italian '40s and '50s classic stories from other good artists. There are also still some nice early Italian stories by Marco Rota to print. There were a few good ones in The Dutch "Stripgoed" series.

I think there are still some nice longer Branca stories not yet printed in The Netherlands and USA.
Morequack
Quote from user: Robb_KDon Rosa, William Van Horn and Pat Block have all written and drawn long stories fairly recently. Pat and Carol McGreal have written some long stories.

But, yes, I love long adventure stories, and would like to see a lot more long stories in Gemstone's comic books (and also the current Dutch comic books).

They might start with all the '50s and '60s Scarpa stories, longer ones by Da Vita, and long Italian '40s and '50s classic stories from other good artists. There are also still some nice early Italian stories by Marco Rota to print. There were a few good ones in The Dutch "Stripgoed" series.

I think there are still some nice longer Branca stories not yet printed in The Netherlands and USA.

Well, unless I'm mistaken, William Van Horn's most prodigious effort was a story of 22 pages that he wrote back in 1995. He wrote another one of 21 pages in 1993 along with two more of 19 pages each in 1998 and 2000. That's it. The vast majority of the balance of his stories are 10 pages or so. Pat Block fares a little better with a half dozen stories in the 26-page range to go along with his more recent 32-page Mummy story. Don Rosa is just about the only American who has delivered lengthier stories with any kind of regularity, with many in the 30-page-plus range.

And with the exception of the Life & Times?which could arguably be considered as one story?no other American can come even close to those old Italians of the 50s and 60s, most notably Scarpa.
Asger And
You must consider, that the Italian-format story with its 3-tiers is only half as big as the 4-tier format of US books. So that the 75 pages of the space-story equals about 37 pages - not very much longer than Blocks Mummy-story.
Morequack
Quote from user: Asger AndYou must consider, that the Italian-format story with its 3-tiers is only half as big as the 4-tier format of US books. So that the 75 pages of the space-story equals about 37 pages - not very much longer than Blocks Mummy-story.
Actually, if my math serves me, a 75-page 3-row story would translate to a 56.25-page story in today's 4-row format. It's a .75% ratio, not .50%.
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