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Topic: Should Uncle Scrooge Have More Pages?

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Louis Lane
I'd like to see Gemstone increase the page count of Uncle Scrooge to about 200 pages, on newsprint, and raise the price to $19.95. Maybe make it bi-monthly or quarterly.
I suspect I'm in the minority.
Anybody have any other ideas of what you'd like to see?
LL
JeffT
I'd be on board for this, though I strongly suspect it would not work financially for them. This is the same thinking that compels me to buy the DC and Marvel black and white trades...more story, less money! :) Color and especially high-grade paper, while of course very nice, is not a priority for me. I realize they can offer the L&T of Scrooge book for that price on higher grade paper because it's such a popular trade with more than normal demand, but I'd think they should be able to do other books at that price point a few times a year, especially if they went to cheaper paper stock.
Roger North
Are you kidding? That would make subscriptions more expensive. I can barely afford to subscribe as it is.
Morequack
No way! $8 a pop is high enough!
And another thing! Speaking of subscriptions almost every magazine on earth that I know of discounts their subscription considerably from the cover price! Not Gemstone!
Mcduck_Enterprises
Yeah, I would have to agree with the others on this...the subscription is enough as it is currently. There is no discount for subscribers and 8 bucks each is pretty constant in regards to quality and page count we do get. (not to hijack the topic:) What I can't understand is the backlog of how they're dispersed tho...Currently, we are up to the US January/February issue and it is April now. Most regular subscriptions are ahead monthly by at least 1/2 months during a suscription or monly title at your comic shop. I keep calling my local shop and they have no idea when the next issue will arrive....It seems as tho this has happened a few times before. How can they get so behind? Am I missing somthing other than inter-company procedure of just being behind in getting new issues out? I mean, 8 dollars is 8 dollars, but when can I spend it and get the books? I think going to a larger page count and more time between releases would stifle loyal subscribers and patient potential buyers. Regards...
Dean Rekich
Louis, I proposed a similar idea awhile ago. My idea was for Gemstone to publish a *monthly* TPB with the amount of pages of 3 prestige titles (64 x 3 = 192 pages) for $19.95. This way we could get back to about 200 pages each month for *less* than the cost of 3 prestige titles. Not only would the $19.95 price be cheaper, but likely Amazon would likely charge less and have a healthy discount.
It seems most other people would not like that idea, and I doubt Gemstone would do it, so I don't think there is any "worry" of this ever happening though.
Morequack
Dean, you're right, this would never happen. Not if Gemstone has any sanity and any chance of keeping their buyers buying, that is. $8 is outrageous enough. The psychological punch in the gut of having to pay $20 a pop each and every month would prove lethal to their relatively meager??but up-to-now loyal??readership, in my humble opinion. As it is, I buy a reader copy and a mint copy to add to my collection. $40/month would cause me to go cold-turkey on the spot! After all, it's a COMIC BOOK for goodness sake! We just wanna read a Disney comic once a month without having to re-think our monthly budgets.

PS
I wonder what excuse Gemstone would give for not offering a discount on those buying up subscriptions.
Louis Lane
>this would never happen...$8 is outrageous enough.
In theory, a "trade paperback" format would increase sales through bookstores and online retailers. I understand the sticker shock a would be a problem for current readers; that's why I suggested a less frequent schedule.
LL
Mykal
Speaking for myself, I love a monthly book. I would not care for a quarterly regardless of cost or format. I need that monthly hit!
Louis Lane
>I'd think they should be able to do other books at that price point a few times a year, especially if they went to cheaper paper stock.
Friends in the printing business tell me that demand for newsprint is up, and that the cost of newsprint is much higher than in years past. DC has been printing some grahpic novels on newsprint lately (most recently, The Greatest Shazam! Stories Ever Told) at prices that are not much (if any) cheaper than other books. I suspect part of the reason the cover prices are not "super cheap" is because of the rising cost of newsprint.
One can dream, though.
LL
JeffT
Yes, monthly would be an impossible proposition, I was under the impression we were discussing something quarterly or similar. I'd happily pay $20 4 times a year for a 200+ page trade. It wouldn't have to be an either/or though, surely. Other comic publishers do monthlies and trades.
Also, I agree with everyone that a subscription should bring with it a discounted price. If margins are that tight then things are pretty grim indeed.
Dean Rekich
I think I may not have explained myself well. I was *not* talking about a monthly TPB *and* 2 or 3 monthly prestige titles, but was talking about a monthly TPB *instead* of the monthly titles. In this scenario, we would actually pay less each month than we do now, so it is not like this idea would eat up more of your money each month.
Louis made a good point how TPBs are *much* more attractive to bookstores than prestige format monthly comics. So that is another thing in its favor.
Morequack, you seem very upset that Gemstone's two prestige titles are 8 dollars each. In a way, I don't blame you. Who wants to spend 8 dollars for a comic book?!? On the other hand though, what other option does Gemstone have? They tried newsstand titles and they did not just work out financially after awhile. *I* would like them to publish more TPBs. However it looks like prestige titles are what we are going to get the most of. And while 8 dollars *is* a lot for one comic book, I don't think Gemstone is charging much more than DC or Marvel would for a similar title.
Plus, Morequack, couldn't you easily cut your Disney comics budget in half just buy not buying two copies of each title? Now of course I don't know why you buy two copies of each. Perhaps you are getting extra copies so your kids have them to read down the road, as a future investment, etc. All of these are reasonable ideas. I have a hypothetical question for you: would you rather but one copy each of *4* different prestige titles each month, or would you rather buy two copies each of only *2* prestige titles each month? Just curious.
One question I would be curious to hear everyone's opinion on. Would you: A, like Gemstone to publish more each month; B, publish less each month; or C, publish about the same amount each month as they currently do. I would *love* for Gemstone to publish *much* more each month, but I am curious what others think.
I agree that Gemstone should give some discount to subscribers. I never have given it much thought as I have my comics shipped to me once a month by Westfield comics as it is simpler and cheaper for me to order through them than my local comic book store. All I can think of it that Gemstone's profit margins must be so low than they can not afford any discount to subscribers, which if is the case, is a scary idea...
Robb_K
More each month -by adding one prestige title (alternating Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck each month), and also with a quarterly special book -Disney Treasures, and other quarterly (seasonal) special books (Christmas, Summer/vacation, Spring, fall (Halloween/Thanksgiving). -More chance for stories by me and some of my friends (Jan Gulbransson, Freddy Milton, Daan Jippes, Frank Jonker, Gorm Transgaard, to be printed in English.
Cacou
As a collector of stories I would like Gemstone to publish more, especially rare material. That said, I perfectly understand that not all readers have large collection of Disney comics, and would like to see e.g. a Carl Barks collection.
Morequack
Quote from user: Dean RekichMorequack, while 8 dollars *is* a lot for one comic book, I don't think Gemstone is charging much more than DC or Marvel would for a similar title.

Plus, Morequack, couldn't you easily cut your Disney comics budget in half just buy not buying two copies of each title? Now of course I don't know why you buy two copies of each. Perhaps you are getting extra copies so your kids have them to read down the road, as a future investment, etc. All of these are reasonable ideas. I have a hypothetical question for you: would you rather but one copy each of *4* different prestige titles each month, or would you rather buy two copies each of only *2* prestige titles each month? Just curious.

I don't know what Marvel would charge for a monthly "prestige format" but I do think that $8 for a comic book is on the steep side (especially when there is no discount for a subscriber). Nonetheless, I do buy 2 copies. My two kids and I read over the reader copy while I bag and board and add the unread copy to my collection. I do not and would not buy any other title but Uncle Scrooge. Even when Donald Duck [and Friends] was being published I found the stories for the most part not to my liking. I thought they were generally too childish and somewhat amateurish. And unless they were reprints of Barks or Scarpa, or someone of that caliber, I thought the stories as well as the artwork were subpar. And Comics & Stories focuses too much on gag stories of less than 10 pages whereas I like longer adventures.
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